AI Art Seething General

>It can only replicate-
As long as it can be described people will probably narrow it down to an algorithm. The only thing AI can't do is something not well described and in the realm of subjectivity, but that is something incapable to replicate by humans either. If someone can distinguish between the styles of different artists, AI, with just machine learning a few years ago can probably figure it out as well. How long do you think it will be that AI's will be able to succinctly describe a piece of medium verbally and you can put that back into a prompt? That is more complicated but it doesn't sound outlandish anymore considering we've passed several levels of absurdity with AI.

Really the only thing that will prevent machine's reaching complete human capabilities, is that it might turn out that the cost of development of making AI completely human isn't worth the benefit of making a completely human-like AI. I mean are companies going to invest in a machine that contemplates resisting its owners, much less a machine that is capable of unionizing?
You don't need a completely human AI though. You want an autistic savant AI which exceeds the average human at a given task but is completely clueless and incapable of learning in every other respect. And that's exactly the sort of AI we'd expect to see since I sincerely hope no one is stupid enough to try making a truly human AI.
 
You don't need a completely human AI though. You want an autistic savant AI which exceeds the average human at a given task but is completely clueless and incapable of learning in every other respect. And that's exactly the sort of AI we'd expect to see since I sincerely hope no one is stupid enough to try making a truly human AI.
It makes me wonder, do you think these Twitter Artists, who are Anti AI, will tolerate sentient AI's once a portion of society starts to see them as another person? While they may be anti-AI Art, they are also vocally pro-trans/blm/any minority that they can virtue signal about. Right now their argument is that calling modern AI "Artificial intelligence" is a misnomer, which I personally think is utterly stupid, as a way of evading that moral question. But in the future, if someone pursues true human-like AI, the change will likely be gradual. Will they reject AI's up to that point or will they eventually change their minds about what is considered socially acceptable?

Personally, I will always be a vehement AI racist from the start and refuse to have them be any higher than a servant class.
 
It makes me wonder, do you think these Twitter Artists, who are Anti AI, will tolerate sentient AI's once a portion of society starts to see them as another person? While they may be anti-AI Art, they are also vocally pro-trans/blm/any minority that they can virtue signal about. Right now their argument is that calling modern AI "Artificial intelligence" is a misnomer, which I personally think is utterly stupid, as a way of evading that moral question. But in the future, if someone pursues true human-like AI, the change will likely be gradual. Will they reject AI's up to that point or will they eventually change their minds about what is considered socially acceptable?

Personally, I will always be a vehement AI racist from the start and refuse to have them be any higher than a servant class.
Just appeal to their inner coomer and they will give in.
 
It makes me wonder, do you think these Twitter Artists, who are Anti AI, will tolerate sentient AI's once a portion of society starts to see them as another person? While they may be anti-AI Art, they are also vocally pro-trans/blm/any minority that they can virtue signal about. Right now their argument is that calling modern AI "Artificial intelligence" is a misnomer, which I personally think is utterly stupid, as a way of evading that moral question. But in the future, if someone pursues true human-like AI, the change will likely be gradual. Will they reject AI's up to that point or will they eventually change their minds about what is considered socially acceptable?
True AI will render the laptop caste obsolete because it's easier to automate their jobs than it is trades and other filthy jobs for chuds and PoCs. So they may not like them, but since they consoom product from megacorporations eventually the NPCs will be reprogrammed for AI rights. Gotta liberate the sexbots from the incels and all that.
Personally, I will always be a vehement AI racist from the start and refuse to have them be any higher than a servant class.
I can't wait to own a drawslave.
 
If I can be a whingey bitch for a minute, the speed at which AI art is advancing is honestly making me scared that the career I hoped to go into is crumbling under my feet. If there's no use for concept artists anymore, maybe I could still hold out doing modelwork for games, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if in five years a bot can generate every background asset your game will ever need. Comics probably aren't far behind either. Months ago I had posted in this thread saying that AI art couldn't manage details, and well, that's out the window.

I don't know if I should try and tough it out and do my best to develop a "unique" style, or if I should just cut my losses, swear off art forever, and go full time into my normal job. Or just kill myself, because I don't know if I could live with knowing that I'm a failure who wasn't good enough to keep up with the changes of the world.

Anyway. Apologies for being dramatic, but this is the seething thread, and brother I'm seething. Coping even.
 
If I can be a whingey bitch for a minute, the speed at which AI art is advancing is honestly making me scared that the career I hoped to go into is crumbling under my feet. If there's no use for concept artists anymore, maybe I could still hold out doing modelwork for games, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if in five years a bot can generate every background asset your game will ever need. Comics probably aren't far behind either. Months ago I had posted in this thread saying that AI art couldn't manage details, and well, that's out the window.

I don't know if I should try and tough it out and do my best to develop a "unique" style, or if I should just cut my losses, swear off art forever, and go full time into my normal job. Or just kill myself, because I don't know if I could live with knowing that I'm a failure who wasn't good enough to keep up with the changes of the world.

Anyway. Apologies for being dramatic, but this is the seething thread, and brother I'm seething. Coping even.
Learn how to use the AI tools so you're the one being hired to work on games, rather than one of the ones being replaced.

We're going to see significantly larger open world games because of this. Even if AI is being used for everything from assets, voices, and maps, the increased workload could balance it out.
 
Learn how to use the AI tools so you're the one being hired to work on games, rather than one of the ones being replaced.

We're going to see significantly larger open world games because of this. Even if AI is being used for everything from assets, voices, and maps, the increased workload could balance it out.
I dunno about you, but if I was an owner of a gamedev studio, I'd consider an artist to be overqualified to do a proompter's job. An artist would demand higher wages cause he dedicated years of his life to learning art.
 
The hilarious thing to me about AI art is that all these Twitter fags do nothing but draw endless amounts of uninspired anime shit to the point that the AI now has a massive dataset to draw from and can thus effortlessly emulate this crap.

Maybe if you didn't swamp the internet with thousands of waifu drawings, the AI wouldn't be so good at replicating it?
 
How?

Edit: Rather, what would I be using them for besides just straight up doing the painting for me?
Use it as a sounding board. Sketch what your initial vision is, then break it down into prompts to funnel into the program. Use what it gives you as inspiration for further sketches, be it characters or themes or whatever.
I currently think of this ML art creation as chiseling a sculpture (albeit far more freeform). Inspect and consider the smaller details and what you want. Consider when to stop. In the end, it's a medium.
 
If I can be a whingey bitch for a minute, the speed at which AI art is advancing is honestly making me scared that the career I hoped to go into is crumbling under my feet. If there's no use for concept artists anymore, maybe I could still hold out doing modelwork for games, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if in five years a bot can generate every background asset your game will ever need. Comics probably aren't far behind either. Months ago I had posted in this thread saying that AI art couldn't manage details, and well, that's out the window.

I don't know if I should try and tough it out and do my best to develop a "unique" style, or if I should just cut my losses, swear off art forever, and go full time into my normal job. Or just kill myself, because I don't know if I could live with knowing that I'm a failure who wasn't good enough to keep up with the changes of the world.

Anyway. Apologies for being dramatic, but this is the seething thread, and brother I'm seething. Coping even.
Problem: I am getting replaced by AI's
Solution: Go into a larger project using multiple mediums and use AI to replace resources that would have been costly while AI's open source and affordable. If you are an artist that wanted to make a game, use AI to speed up the process of coding. If you are a writer and wanted to make a rudimentary audio drama, use AI voice generation and just edit the best results together. If you are an animator but aren't experienced at making backgrounds, draw a rough draft of the background art and expedite the process of color, shading, etc through an AI and then refine it to fix any issues

This is a way to still have an edge with your pre-existing technical skills in a competition filled with people who use AI. At the very least you have more knowledge in refining what the AI puts out when compared to others with no knowledge whatsoever and have to take whatever the AI puts out. A project leader who understands the medium will put out a better product than a project manager who don't.

This might be hopeful thinking, but don't let these corpos demoralize you. If they can replace you with AI, then you must in all your effort seek to replace them with their own weapon. Don't let the morality of digital theft stop you. I am a programmer and if you want to produce a game, I will gladly forgive anyone who might use an AI coding tool which trained on millions of codes if it means more independent creators are able to flourish.
 
If I can be a whingey bitch for a minute, the speed at which AI art is advancing is honestly making me scared that the career I hoped to go into is crumbling under my feet. If there's no use for concept artists anymore, maybe I could still hold out doing modelwork for games, but even then I wouldn't be surprised if in five years a bot can generate every background asset your game will ever need. Comics probably aren't far behind either. Months ago I had posted in this thread saying that AI art couldn't manage details, and well, that's out the window.

I don't know if I should try and tough it out and do my best to develop a "unique" style, or if I should just cut my losses, swear off art forever, and go full time into my normal job. Or just kill myself, because I don't know if I could live with knowing that I'm a failure who wasn't good enough to keep up with the changes of the world.

Anyway. Apologies for being dramatic, but this is the seething thread, and brother I'm seething. Coping even.
Go full time into your normal job. If you're having fears that you are replaceable, your art isn't unique enough or good enough to be paid for full time. Don't risk your livelihood for a high risk low reward thing such as art. Keep it as a hobby, maybe sell some art on the side. Unless you're bringing something new and innovative to the table, not worth pursing full time. Don't kill yourself, that's stupid. AI art can replace every single artist on the planet. Doesn't mean we can't keep creating what's in our head.
 
Go full time into your normal job. If you're having fears that you are replaceable, your art isn't unique enough or good enough to be paid for full time. Don't risk your livelihood for a high risk low reward thing such as art. Keep it as a hobby, maybe sell some art on the side. Unless you're bringing something new and innovative to the table, not worth pursing full time. Don't kill yourself, that's stupid. AI art can replace every single artist on the planet. Doesn't mean we can't keep creating what's in our head.
If I did I would probably give up the hobby entirely because I wouldn't be able to draw without that little voice in my head going "you could have done this for a living if you were better, if you practiced more, if you tried harder. You're a failure." I'm not trying to get a pity party, this is just how my brain works, and if I could cut out the parts of it responsible for emotion and aspirations and just be a soulless NPC, I would.
 
If I did I would probably give up the hobby entirely because I wouldn't be able to draw without that little voice in my head going "you could have done this for a living if you were better, if you practiced more, if you tried harder. You're a failure."
Dang that sucks. Maybe go to a therapist.
 
I saw some more rational responses against these two (archive, archive) posts in particular. Would it reasonable or naïve to think these fearmongering reactionary types are starting to get public pushback for once or this just hopium?
That JT guy sort of proves the point I was making in the other thread. Artists who don't have an ounce of originality will suffer under Ai. My best friend is an amazing artist, she's miles better than I will ever be. Her lines are perfect while mine are rough and blotchy. Her colors are perfect. While my colors are mixed wrong or applied wrong. She'd be the best artist of this generation except, she hasn't made a single original creation in the 30 years I've known her. All of her work is either heavily influenced by Pokemon/Digimon. She can't even do still lifes or proper non-anime portraits. Ai absolutely obliterates her.


Here are the two images side by side, for lazy people like me.
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Having multiple characters (without them turning into blobs) is something that AI (or at least my average attempt) has some trouble with, so I think that addition is a point in favor, considering current limitations. I think the AI's has a better amount of detail (on things like clothes and the food) and use of light and shadow, but I'm not an artist, so I know fuck-all. Copying the AI's garbled "Happy" text is a cute touch.
Ai is a tool. Like all tools anyone can use it, but not everyone will be able to use it well. Everything in this image can be adjusted or fine-tuned.
The issue with this, th ebarrier to using Ai well is very complicated and very weird. Anyone can type jibberish into midjourney and create a mindblowing masterpiece, but actually using ai to improve your own art or craft a model for your clothing takes time and skill. I honestly love making fake old photos and fake office photos with the thing. I've "invented" three people using Daz3D as the base. Say hello to F-HR-JBGW. As far as anyone knows, she's the face of the voice on my answering machine.

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I wonder how the Tracer A-Logs will react knowing tracers could literally generate any position, any pose with AI and trace the image there to their own liking. Of course by that point it'd be much easier to just pass off edited AI art as your own, but still, literally no one could tell if you traced an AI work or not unless you're MS Paint levels of obvious.
 
I wonder how the Tracer A-Logs will react knowing tracers could literally generate any position, any pose with AI and trace the image there to their own liking. Of course by that point it'd be much easier to just pass off edited AI art as your own, but still, literally no one could tell if you traced an AI work or not unless you're MS Paint levels of obvious.
That's what I never understood about obvious tracers.

There's this free program called Daz3D, and you can create any pose you want, then TRACE THAT. Tracing a reference image is not a crime. Hell, once you get into mass production you'll understand how common tracing really is. So I never understand half the hate for tracing on DeviantArt.

That said.

WHY IN FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO TRACE SOMEONE ELSE'S DRAWING. FIVE FUCKING MINUTES IN DAZ3D AND YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN UNIQUE REFERENCE IMAGE.

Oh you can also generate sketch looking line art and trace that, if you know what you're doing. But of course, I can't do -my- art . so Excuse my caps lock. I'm actually salty I can't generate my own shit even after creating a dreambooth.
 
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