AI Art Seething General

There's so much more of it too.

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If you just fuck up your own art until it's unrecognizable, look how effortlessly it defeats AI's attempts to make sense of it! Take that, AI techbros!

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I love all the cope in this one about how if you like the old video game pixel look, then you're not really even hurting your art at all :story:

But what if the AI techbro also likes pixel art, loves the effect, and wants AI to reproduce it? *sigh*
 
There's so much more of it too.

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If you just fuck up your own art until it's unrecognizable, look how effortlessly it defeats AI's attempts to make sense of it! Take that, AI techbros!

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I love all the cope in this one about how if you like the old video game pixel look, then you're not really even hurting your art at all :story:

But what if the AI techbro also likes pixel art, loves the effect, and wants AI to reproduce it? *sigh*
All this fucking effort in order to muck up the AI's dataset when the same result could've been achieved if you just put a big transparent watermark over the whole drawing if you're that autistically paranoid of your art being used.
 
Forgot I was in this thread, it looks like the same bunch of losers who've never made anything (other than women uncomfortable) are still jerking off to artist tears for some reason. I hope you know you aren't anymore special than they are because your goyslop dispenser draws you women with fat tits (the highest form of art). Its like you guys see the furries with 5th grade level art skills, and get jealous that they can do something you can't. Probably magnified by failing to surpass someone like Chris-chans skill level.

Some pretty pathetic jealousy taints like half of these posts.
You are a big, dumb faggot. The crappy artist fears the machine.
 
God damn, I remember when Moepi made a huge fit about how people can make CP using AI and that's why it should be banned and people started to point out that literally, anyone can draw fake CP without the use of AI, and he responded by saying drawn CP is ok because the artist put effort into it. Apparently, his limit is that fake CP is fine as long as you put hard work into producing it.
 
All this fucking effort in order to muck up the AI's dataset when the same result could've been achieved if you just put a big transparent watermark over the whole drawing if you're that autistically paranoid of your art being used.
To be fair, that can be overcome because there are watermark removal tools and even that will be improved with AI. The best thing for people who don't want their image trained is to refrain from posting more of their art to the public, or if they want to share them, only share portions of it. Unfortunately by the nature of the digital age, nobody has a way to stop others from making a copy of an image, so you can't have your cake and eat it.
 
God damn, I remember when Moepi made a huge fit about how people can make CP using AI and that's why it should be banned and people started to point out that literally, anyone can draw fake CP without the use of AI, and he responded by saying drawn CP is ok because the artist put effort into it. Apparently, his limit is that fake CP is fine as long as you put hard work into producing it.
my spicy AI art take is that we have a wild first amendment case 5 years down the line. when some creep uses it to make fresh pizza and claims its a form of expression. realistically itll be hard to argue it causes real world harm.
 
What's really the difference between using AI and commissioning a mediocre Twitter artist? None that I can see, aside from not having to deal with some retarded man or womanchild who probably hates your guts anyway.

You tell an artist what you want and give them references and have to settle for whatever halfhearted interpretation they give you. Then, if you're lucky, you get something that's 'good enough' 8 weeks later and if you ask for alterations or want something changed there's a less than zero chance you'll be the cause of a passive aggressive Twitter meltdown because 100 bucks plus tip for 8 hours of drawing was already more than the soy latte swilling artist could handle.

If artists weren't such insufferable faggots I'd maybe feel worse for them, but all that's really happened is the barrier to entry got lowered. Oh well. Cry me a river.
 
A study of one of the most outspoken anti-AI proponents on the web.

Moepi (itzmoepi/Tenpi/imtenpi/P14y3r) is a 22-year-old male from New York who makes chiptune music, is a prolific web developer, dabbling artist, and really really REALLY hates AI. Spends all day every day sperging out on Reddit and Twitter about how harmful it is. Has performed extremely autistic long-form studies of ways artists can add noise to their images to make them un-scrapable for AI art...methods that no artist would ever use because of how destructive it is to the entire point of making art in the first place.

I truly believe that if this insanity continues, Moepi could earn his own thread here.
 
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And if you have it done by humans, they'll chimp out and falsely mark stuff as AI when it isn't.
It happened at least once in the Japanese side of Twitter.
Rui Araizumi (the artist of Slayers) was recently accused of using AI-generated art after posting illustrations, meant to be merchandise for the 2023 Comiket, in a rather different style than he was generally known for on social media.

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Not replying to accusations directly, Araizumi lightheartedly posted a series of screenshots (Tweet 1 / Tweet 2) which show the process of the creation of his illustrations, as well as videos (Tweet 1 / Tweet 2) in which he goes through the separate layers of his artwork, proving that it was indeed hand-drawn. Araizumi even provided a link to the pattern asset he used on the character’s kimono outfit.

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(I'll post an archive of the videos once Kiwifarms stops shitting itself)

After the artist proved that he didn't use AI to generate his art, a lot of the users making accusations fell silent as a result, with only a handful offering apologies while most silently retreated from the discourse by deleting their previous posts. When advised by someone to file charges for defamation, Araizumi mentioned that he has recorded some of the most vapid posts from certain users just in case.

The AI is helpful, but it has no imagination on its own. No matter how many hours I spend tweaking keywords in these programs, it can't come close to what's already in my head, nor can it quite replicate my art style.
At the end of the day, AI is just a mere tool and cannot replace by itself human imagination and the honed creative knowledge & artistic skill of actual artists. For comic-making for instance, regardless you use traditional tools, a digital tablet (even a Cintiq that costs 600 bucks or the Pro model at over two thousand) or AI prompting, you still have to learn about the fundamentals of visual storytelling and panel composition at the very least. Hell, there are no written rules that claim you cannot use those three types of tools altogether to meet a specific end result.

What AI primarily does is lowering the entry barrier for everyone to simply create art stuff. Anyone who fears or believes (beyond the lulz) that AI will threaten and harm the livehood of actual artists for good, like some kind of doomsday scenario, is a special kind of stupid.

I'd argue that being able to make a full living of your art alone was already a tall and risky order well before the apparition of AI, and the economy getting shittier and shittier by the day hasn't helped things either. I've seen enough author's notes in mangas to know most Japanese artists still had to take a normal job to pay the bills and their food on the plate, in addition to draw in their spare time.

Just for extra anecdotal info, there was also a recent japanese TV report of an artist using AI tools to create a 16-pages manga out of a personal sketchy storyboard, and it was showcased as an example of mangakas who could be pairing up AI with their existing skills to create shortcuts in their potentially tight schedules.
 
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What's really the difference between using AI and commissioning a mediocre Twitter artist? None that I can see, aside from not having to deal with some retarded man or womanchild who probably hates your guts anyway.
the main difference is the AI will do it in seconds, while the retarded Twitter artist will take four months past the deadline then ask for an extra $50 to top things off
 
As a filthy draw slave I finally concede to the power of AI art! Shadiversity has shown me the error of my ways, and that he is a far better artist than his brother Jazza!
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AI Artbro sama, I KNEEL!
The amount of salt in the comments could cover Carthage thrice over. It's wonderful. I don't think I spotted a single top-level reply that was unabashedly in support of the video or Shadiversity. Talk about not playing to your audience.
 
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