AI Art Seething General

It's such a massive double standard. Programming/coding is expected to be free and open, but art is strictly locked down and only allowed if you are an "artist" yourself. "Just pick up the pen and learn lol", sure, as soon as you go pick up a Python tutorial.
It's because of money being potentially taken from their political faction. Straight up.

It's no different from how "learn to code" was suddenly a slur when it was applied to journalists, who are predominantly left-wing. Programming is not seen as predominantly left-wing.
 
Programming is not seen as predominantly left-wing.
Bullshit, many lolcows documented on this website are within tech, if not programming, and are staunchly left-wing. There is a reason why programming socks became an unironic thing.

Also, I find it ironic that anti-ai people are championing aiornot.com detector and Glaze, when both utilize machine learning, aka the very thing they are protesting against.
 
Notice that I specified "seen," for some reason many people continue to pretend tech is a good-old-boys club.
 
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Ai completely fails at any programming work of any sort that is not high level script shit or common demos.

Start work in firmware and learn how to make very efficient embedded systems. Learn how to interpret and maintain older languages like COBOL. Hard to find those engineers.

artists are 98% faggots, and deserve to hurt. (artists on kiwifarms however is only 30% faggot) similarly to ai and coding, if you actually know the craft ai will never compete.
 
For some reason, Twitter/X decided to recommend this Tweet to me. Furry artist demanding that people stop sharing AI art because showing it to other people is killing his career. Playing with it on your own is fine, but don't you ever post it online. So surely he must be really struggling, right?

Oh wait nope. Not only is he selling porn calendars for $60 a pop, his commission queue is absolutely packed, with at least 10 overdue commissions by his own schedule, and 32 pending total.

But yeah, AI is totally killing him. Won't you think of the porn artists who have so many commissions they can't keep up with them?
His argument that it's "normalizing corporate control over human creativity" is just funny to me. Where does he think he's posting his art? Where does he think the majority of his commissioners are finding said art? He's got his own website, sure, but what about the programs he uses to make art, or if traditional, the tools and products he buys in order to bring it out of his mind and into creation? It's all corporations. Art was the purview of nobility who became patrons of artists in the Renaissance, and then it became more available to everyone when industrial production by corporations allowed kids to pick up crayons, rather than only select prodigies being sent off for tutelage under masters. These LLMs have no more "control" over intrinsic human creativity than a factory in Hong Kong manufacturing cheap paint brushes does.

The Tweet I saw him make as a follow-up is even worse. Not only for being a >food analogy, but someone painting the creation of a device that solves world hunger as a terrible sin, because it would put farmers out of work. Just ridiculous. It also breaks down completely as he starts talking about "Your products don't taste as good anymore because you're demoralized by your dying farm" or how it's bad that you're struggling while the guy who made the "magic food box" gets to buy private yachts and go to space, as if the inventor wouldn't rightfully be praised as the greatest person who ever lived by all nations. People like this are so far removed from reality that they can't even comprehend how to make an analogy between their feelings and people's actual struggles.
 
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If the software becomes robust enough for even diaper-shitting retards to craft their complex fetish fantasies, then commissions will start to dry up. Not even all of them, and chances are good that people will be commissioned to use the AI software since that's a skill.
The macro/centaur/transformation and hyper spheres can't be replicated effectively using LORAs. Particularly character sequences or scenes or scenarios involving more than one character. Given those are the most "vanilla" fetishes in the fandom, even mid furry artists will have no issues with adapting if they actually want to make money.
 
Holy shit, I didn't even see this. :story:

Out of all the analogies he could have picked, he chooses "solving world hunger is bad because it harms the profits of farmers". Absolutely unreal. He genuinely sees providing people with furry porn as the same level of importance as farming.

He even fucks up his own analogy. He thinks people being able to pay off debt and go on vacation with their families is a bad thing, because people should be giving that money to farmers instead. How is this supposed to portray artists in a good light? "Rack up debt and stop going on vacation so you can pay me to draw furry porn for a living" sounds like a pretty shit deal to me.

If it wasn't for this guy genuinely being an artist, I'd think this is a pro-AI troll false flagging as anti-AI. It's just too dumb.
 
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The Tweet I saw him make as a follow-up is even worse. Not only for being a >food analogy, but someone painting the creation of a device that solves world hunger as a terrible sin, because it would put farmers out of work. Just ridiculous. It also breaks down completely as he starts talking about "Your products don't taste as good anymore because you're demoralized by your dying farm" or how it's bad that you're struggling while the guy who made the "magic food box" gets to buy private yachts and go to space, as if the inventor wouldn't rightfully be praised as the greatest person who ever lived by all nations. People like this are so far removed from reality that they can't even comprehend how to make an analogy between their feelings and people's actual struggles.
It’s faggots like this that deserves to be replaced by AI fags themselves. Selfish piece of shit.
 
Nightshade has made its way across a couple of my chats. Few key takeaways:

This is currently not released. They intend to host this themselves. Even if a huge amount of artists on the internet decide to use it, whether or not they can keep up with the demand (very unlikely) is yet to be seen.

This doesn't affect models that have already been trained, so uh. Again, nothing stopping anyone from falling back to SDXL or SD1.5 and finetuning that.

The implication that using computer generated AI-distracting additions won't also be defeated by AI at some point is rather silly. Obviously, eventually, someone will "crack" this and train their AI algorithm to ignore or fix these sabotaged images.
 

For some reason, Twitter/X decided to recommend this Tweet to me. Furry artist demanding that people stop sharing AI art because showing it to other people is killing his career. Playing with it on your own is fine, but don't you ever post it online. So surely he must be really struggling, right?

Oh wait nope. Not only is he selling porn calendars for $60 a pop, his commission queue is absolutely packed, with at least 10 overdue commissions by his own schedule, and 32 pending total.

But yeah, AI is totally killing him. Won't you think of the porn artists who have so many commissions they can't keep up with them?
Oh no so awful. I wonder how many of these artists complaining about ai trace or plagiarize other peoples art?
This is always something that annoys the fuck out of me.

If an artist wants to make a shitty video game, they are totally allowed to just go download some sort of premade engine like RenPy, throw together a dogshit visual novel or something, and they get praised for it because "well the art style is good". Zero code of their own, copy/pasting code from tutorials is completely acceptable, using ChatGPT to write code, etc. They're still a "game dev".

But when a programmer wants to make a video game and they do anything but hire an artist for all their assets, they are creative Hitler. Absolutely cannot use anything you didn't make/pay for, AI is strictly forbidden because it is "stealing", and god fucking forbid you ask for volunteers to work with you on your game because it is unacceptable to ask artists to work "for free" or "for exposure", even if it is only a fan game with no profits or something.

Even Steam will allow the former, and not the latter. They don't give a shit where your code comes from, but if there's a single even thought that you used AI art, your game is banned.

It's such a massive double standard. Programming/coding is expected to be free and open, but art is strictly locked down and only allowed if you are an "artist" yourself. "Just pick up the pen and learn lol", sure, as soon as you go pick up a Python tutorial.
it is an odd double standard that exists.

I asked bing ai to draw blood thirsty kiwis and I got this result. They crave the essence of artists. The first one is my favorite.
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It's such a massive double standard. Programming/coding is expected to be free and open, but art is strictly locked down and only allowed if you are an "artist" yourself. "Just pick up the pen and learn lol", sure, as soon as you go pick up a Python tutorial.
Developers choose themselves to work on projects and release them free and open-source, nobody's forcing them.
However, a lot of devs felt worried when they found out that Microsoft used their code to train Github Copilot. Even though that code was publicly available already, and if somebody else used it to build their own application, it would be fine, but when it's used as training data for an AI-based code generator, there's a problem for some reason.

It's cause there is a subconsciously-understandable difference between tools like Photoshop or ReactJS which allow an expert to do his job faster and more efficiently, and a tool like Dall-E or ChatGPT, which are supposed to fulfill the request of a layman. I expect there to be a bigger pushback from programmers when better code generators are available.
 
However, a lot of devs felt worried when they found out that Microsoft used their code to train Github Copilot. Even though that code was publicly available already, and if somebody else used it to build their own application, it would be fine, but when it's used as training data for an AI-based code generator, there's a problem for some reason.
Most open-source licenses need credit, and the concerns were that AI can repeat big snippets of code without crediting, due to the low-dimensional, restricted nature of code.
... I expect there to be a bigger pushback from programmers when better code generators are available.
Programmers probably won't be affected too terribly much, considering the core of programming is made out of programs that turn abstract representations into more concrete executable code, I.E. what the AI does without the AI. Boilerplate is best dealt with by making it unnecessary as part of the language, and generating programs completely from English text will always be at least somewhat inconsistent and thus will need a human to audit it. Programming is also nightmarishly logical, and current AI sucks at everything that isn't fuzzy pattern matching and heuristic guessing.
 
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Most open-source licenses need credit, and the concerns were that AI can repeat big snippets of code without crediting, due to the low-dimensional, restricted nature of code.
When there's literally only one way to express an idea, the doctrine of merger makes it effectively uncopyrightable. It's a pretty limited doctrine, though, so that's probably a real issue.

To get around this, companies generally reverse-engineer something by having someone decompile and reduce it to some kind of pseudocode, then someone who has never seen the original code rewrites it. I can't really see AI taking over software any time soon.
 
New Executive Order just dropped.



These are my highlights:
Require that developers of the most powerful AI systems share their safety test results and other critical information with the U.S. government.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology will set the rigorous standards for extensive red-team testing to ensure safety before public release. The Department of Homeland Security will apply those standards to critical infrastructure sectors and establish the AI Safety and Security Board. The Departments of Energy and Homeland Security will also address AI systems’ threats to critical infrastructure, as well as chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and cybersecurity risks.
Protect Americans from AI-enabled fraud and deception by establishing standards and best practices for detecting AI-generated content and authenticating official content. The Department of Commerce will develop guidance for content authentication and watermarking to clearly label AI-generated content.
Promote a fair, open, and competitive AI ecosystem by providing small developers and entrepreneurs access to technical assistance and resources, helping small businesses commercialize AI breakthroughs, and encouraging the Federal Trade Commission to exercise its authorities.
In addition, this week, Vice President Harris will speak at the UK Summit on AI Safety, hosted by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.

 
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Moepi (naked child cartoon enjoyer) appears to have thrown in the towel and retired from AI art sperging. Is no longer listed among the mods on r/artisthate. Appears to have DFE'd every post he ever made on AI-specific subreddits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/comments/17ke4m1/wasted_a_year_of_my_life/ (archive)

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I realized that I've completely wasted around 1 year of my life doing really nothing but sulking around and being incredibly depressed. I had some self-improvement goals but I completely fell off around last year. It honestly sucks and I can't believe how fast time flies by.

Anyways... I finally recognized the problem, so I will try my best to make some changes. I am going to quit posting on social media and will do my best to block them since I mostly wasted time on them. I will restart my old routine, which involves checking off after I did some minor goals like learning words in a new language. I am going to cut down the phone usage and napping by taking some pills that keep me awake.

Today marks the first day when I actually try changing my crappy habits, I guess... Wish me luck.

Might also just be spinning up some new accounts that don't trace back to his real self so easily.

The remaining possibly even bigger sperg is the head mod of r/artisthate, WonderfulWanderer777, but he keeps to his own subreddit more often. Lots of deranged takes there, though.
 
They are going to turn up AI as gay and useless as possible.

A plan in the works for about 10 years because activists been worried about AI being racist/based against nigger crimes as far back as 2013.
I actually don't think they're that stupid.

The administration is aware that AI has incredible potential, and the chilling effect of trying to make it illegal or only usable in a controlled sandbox would stifle any incentives for development in the west, giving massive advantages to China et al. if it remains free and open in those countries. It's straight up conceding the war and letting their AI-based industries dominate future developments, and isn't it better to be the ones with your hands guiding the wheel instead, dictating the culture surrounding it?

Companies like Adobe, Google and Microsoft have to be responsible because they can get sued for generating "harmful content" and lose on whatever version of ESG exists, so their generative tools will all be cucked to hell. Individuals are free of this responsibility, and cannot really be controlled at this point. If future AI all has watermarks that can be traced back to you personally, people will shrug and use the completely open untraceable generative tools we have now that are already more than enough in most contexts.


If Trump's presidency taught us anything, it's that executive orders don't really accomplish anything. A lot of what it talks about seems to lean toward protecting America against hostile uses of AI, bigger picture security shit than random people making nudes of celebrities. It talks about actively working with AI on a government level to see how it can be used positively which is the opposite of what anti-AI spergs want. "Developing standards for judging authenticity" seems to be all about explicit political misinformation like generated images of war atrocities. They mostly want to protect the regime more than they want to impede on entertainment uses.
 
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