AI Art Seething General

[AnOminous]

Another one bites the dust

Too bad so sad. He should probably kill himself.

 

[weirdMcGee]

I’m as Ai neutral as you can get (Ai bros and greedy corpos can suck it). but man, the other side isn’t exactly endearing me, ngl. Once your hands can make something, your Brian chemistry’s never the same. You’d think artist are insane wasting most of their days drawing circles till you see their honest reactions to this.

 

[ShooterOfCum]

What a coincidence that the slop he produces is perfectly reproducible by even the most basic CivitAI model, and he's quitting. What a dumb nigger.

 

[AnOminous]

I’m as Ai neutral as you can get (Ai bros and greedy corpos can suck it). but man, the other side isn’t exactly endearing me, ngl.

What's funny is the AI corporations who own this shit are pushing the same woke bullshit with their lobotomized AIs as the art fags whining about them. It's really an internecine war between woketards.

 

[weirdMcGee]

What a coincidence that the slop he produces is perfectly reproducible by even the most basic CivitAI model, and he's quitting. What a dumb nigger.

Think they’re a chick but probably one those bpd hoes who’s totes bi till you ask if they eat pussy yesterday

 

[Spud]

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"But the use of AI from @wacom has completely drained my motivation and left me utterly demoralized"

Imagine getting buck broken by sentient sand. Any "artist" that gets demoralized cause a computer can generate an image never cared for art in the first place, they just wanted validation by being known as an "artist"

 

[Levitica]

Imagine getting buck broken by sentient sand. Any "artist" that gets demoralized cause a computer can generate an image never cared for art in the first place, they just wanted validation by being known as an "artist"

Indeed. I am using different AI tools for about a year because it allows me to create “art” that I like to see. That is my main motivation. Because nobody else is doing what I am doing. Because they are not me. Nobody else has my interests, my quirks, my background, my everything. It is not identical to art sold in galleries or done for magazines. I am not an artist, never was, never will be, I am - at most - a curator of words. And that´s it. It is just words, but what a beautiful thing this is!

And right now this very moment a billion people are doing the exact same thing. I have no desire to replace art at large, or artists for that matter, and I don´t have the ability to do anyway. Nor do I monetize my shit (and nobody would pay for it, whole different story), it is all my personal fun times. It´s a genie that nobody will be able to bring back into the bottle.

The bigger problem is that the tools for AI are owned by large companies, Microsoft et al. And they way Microsoft treats it is a slight above a lobotomized monkey at times, if you are lucky. Locally generated AI art without those fucks is probably the way to go.

If you read their (Microsoft´s) TOS it says it´s all mine but at the same time I grand them a licence that they can do whatever they want with “my” images. Use them, sell them, anything goes but they won´t tell me nor will they (have to) pay me. And it is probably the same everywhere, Open AI, open internet, open everything, And fuck the complainers about AI with a chainsaw.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Another one bites the dust (all over a Wacom oopsie).

I dont understand how twitter artists can be so demoralized by AI. Every artist is demoralized by everything, its the essential trait of every artist to compare their art to other art. To be honest AI is exceptional at art and helped me learn a lot of shit. It can do anything in any style. I would almost go so far as to say some of this shit has soul.

Spoiler: Some of the AI shit I generated for personal use

No Exaggeration, some of this shit is on the level of Gustave Dore Woodcuts.

 

[weirdMcGee]

Indeed. I am using different AI tools for about a year because it allows me to create “art” that I like to see. That is my main motivation. Because nobody else is doing what I am doing. Because they are not me. Nobody else has my interests, my quirks, my background, my everything. It is not identical to art sold in galleries or done for magazines. I am not an artist, never was, never will be, I am - at most - a curator of words. And that´s it. It is just words, but what a beautiful thing this is!

And right now this very moment a billion people are doing the exact same thing. I have no desire to replace art at large, or artists for that matter, and I don´t have the ability to do anyway. Nor do I monetize my shit (and nobody would pay for it, whole different story), it is all my personal fun times. It´s a genie that nobody will be able to bring back into the bottle.

The bigger problem is that the tools for AI are owned by large companies, Microsoft et al. And they way Microsoft treats it is a slight above a lobotomized monkey at times, if you are lucky. Locally generated AI art without those fucks is probably the way to go.

If you read their (Microsoft´s) TOS it says it´s all mine but at the same time I grand them a licence that they can do whatever they want with “my” images. Use them, sell them, anything goes but they won´t tell me nor will they (have to) pay me. And it is probably the same everywhere, Open AI, open internet, open everything, And fuck the complainers about AI with a chainsaw.

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Hit straight to the heart. Leftist unironically dunking on individuals rather than big corpos hoarding the good bits sucks dick lol. Aren't these the same people who screech about marx and free markets? yet somehow, when push comes to shove, these fuckers cave in like sticks to the wind. We can agree corporate greed's awful yet somehow some guy wanting ai gen anime tiddies is worse than hitler?

What wacom did was crumby, no lie, but some of the reactions are...a bit exaggerated? kinda, crazy? unwarranted? not really pantie-twist worthy. And the dumb part? some artist are ditching their Wacoms in favor of xp-pen and huion, both tied to china. The same china whose government happily laps the head of dissenters like barbies. And in the end, these fuckers will find ways of being woke. Cuz as we know, china is a communist paradise and not just capitalism on steroids! Not big on Nu-wacom, but I sure as fuck don't see ugee and their derivatives as saints either.

 

[Dynamite Bean]

Another one bites the dust (all over a Wacom oopsie).

Artists are some of the biggest drama queens on the entire earth and it just cannot be stated enough
Ask or even mildly suggest lower a price or editing something? overreaction, spread your DMs all over the place to get you blacklisted and publicly shamed
Paywall shit gets leaked? Take draconian measures that punish and inconvenience everyone except the leaker
AI art? Lose their god damn mind, treat anyone that uses AI like 2nd class citizens, threaten to throw their tablets out when a corpo that obviously never had their back uses AI, quit over ai, call for further draconian copyright laws that totally won't be used against them

I don't know if artists have always been this retarded in human history or if the internet and how easy it is to get dopamine hits with clout but my god are overreactions like these why i've seen an equal amount of people and even some friends say they'd rather use AI just because they just don't want to deal with people like this let alone give them money

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

Another one bites the dust (all over a Wacom oopsie).

I am competing against AI and I won't win. It's not worth the enormous amount of hard work.

This is just such a perfect encapsulation of the ethos of the Twitter Artiste, and I love it. To them, the existence of AI art is a "competition" or a "fight", and they're doomed to lose. Why? Because the barrier of entry to making somewhat passable artwork has been lowered, and thus, being able to make good artwork is suddenly this impossible, Herculean task. It's the epitome of "why try harder?"

What wacom did was crumby, no lie,

Was it? Maybe I'm not getting the full story, but I don't see the issue. I mean, pissing off artists when they're your customer base is stupid, but I don't think they did anything morally wrong, getting some guy to generate artwork versus having some guy draw up some artwork. If people are going to try to boycott or stop engaging with companies that use AI generative tools, then I've got some bad news: it's only going to get more common over time, barring some legislative intercession.

 

[imaginary friend]

I mean, if you're selling a tablet for making digital art, get some good digital art art to showcase what you can make with it. That's kind of the point of having any art there. The AI art put there has no connection to the product, so it's just kind of lazy. They could've at least gotten some impressive-looking AI art instead of an unimpressive blurry dragon that looks like it was taken from a coloring book.

But man, this sort of reaction is making me seethe. These people are so blatant about not caring about art at all.

I've never had the time to learn how to draw well, but making AI art has made me want to draw again considering how easy it is to practice using it. It's generalized you can makes pictures to use as references and continuously tweak small details, and you can mix and match loras to get a certain (or entirely new) style. You can deconstruct art into smaller pieces by generating numerous images and learn more than you ever would from useless YouTube art tutorials. You can look at the image and think, "What features do I like? Why? I need to fix this hand / shape. What about it is so off to me?"

On top of that, if you spend actual effort fixing an AI image up / tracing and redrawing it, you both feel like you've created something new that looks good AND you've improved by subconsciously remembering the way the shading / proportions / angles were while you were copying it. A lot of being an artist comes down to muscle memory over many, many drawings you make. You might not have the motivation to do that with human-made art since it doesn't feel yours and original like something you've generated, for example. If these people actually cared about making art and motivating new artists, they'd look for ways to implement and take advantage of AI art.

I mean, corporations using AI art to replace people? Alright, do your petitions or whatever, but it hurts 0 people to make something for personal use. Why treat people like they're evil for taking advantage of free entertainment? Because it threatens your fragile ego? Because you can't scam and harrass them? I'm so tired of these narcissists. Xitter numbers made them feel like art geniuses and this is what happened.

 

[linchan]

I mean, if you're selling a tablet for making digital art, get some good digital art art to showcase what you can make with it. That's kind of the point of having any art there. The AI art put there has no connection to the product, so it's just kind of lazy. They could've at least gotten some impressive-looking AI art instead of an unimpressive blurry dragon that looks like it was taken from a coloring book.

They'd still seethe if there actually was an AI art gen-related product that could be tied to their usage, and they'd probably won't bat an eye if they used images made with 3D. They are only upset because it was AI.

 

[weirdMcGee]

On top of that, if you spend actual effort fixing an AI image up / tracing and redrawing it, you both feel like you've created something new that looks good AND you've improved by subconsciously remembering the way the shading / proportions / angles were while you were copying it. A lot of being an artist comes down to muscle memory over many, many drawings you make. You might not have the motivation to do that with human-made art since it doesn't feel yours and original like something you've generated, for example. If these people actually cared about making art and motivating new artists, they'd look for ways to implement and take advantage of AI art.

Dude don't say that! wanna be accused of theft?! We don't make the rules, you theiving nazi reeeeee!!

Somehow artist are soulful creatures who's visions transcend conventional study. Lord forbid they got there via tracing or using reference. As we know, artist can draw the mona lisa through thought alone, no reference or practice required. Give me a fucking break fam . Speaking as a artfag who sucked dirt as a kid, we don't pop out the womb pencil in hand. We're drawn to it, like any kid, but keep at it while others up and quit. that's how we get good, keep at it but also analyzing life. Studying the structures of objects, light, and texture.

I understand the ai bro hate. I dislike it when some guy comms a guy then claims he made it. That's stupid af but you know what else is stupid? attacking artist using ai tools to learn. It's not hurting anyone nor making profit, so why the vitriol?

Was it? Maybe I'm not getting the full story, but I don't see the issue. I mean, pissing off artists when they're your customer base is stupid, but I don't think they did anything morally wrong, getting some guy to generate artwork versus having some guy draw up some artwork. If people are going to try to boycott or stop engaging with companies that use AI generative tools, then I've got some bad news: it's only going to get more common over time, barring some legislative intercession.

wacom is a company that makes drawing tablets and digitizers. Use a piece of handmade art so folks can go "oh I can draw with it?" A case could be made for inpainting and touch ups, but most Ai users aren't arsed about it, so it's never used. It's like selling fake prop food in a legit restaurant.

 

[AnOminous]

I understand the ai bro hate. I dislike it when some guy comms a guy then claims he made it. That's stupid af but you know what else is stupid? attacking artist using ai tools to learn. It's not hurting anyone nor making profit, so why the vitriol?

What's even more funny about the seething and whining from mostly incompetents is even centuries ago, the old "masters" would often have (and still do) a bunch of students/apprentices they'd have make most of "their" art which they'd then sign. This has been a practice since time immemorial and used to be the domain of the vastly wealthy or already successful.

Now, it's in the hands of the commoner, and they're whining.

wacom is a company that makes drawing tablets and digitizers. Use a piece of handmade art so folks can go "oh I can draw with it?"

It's kind of funny they'd sell tablets and then use art that isn't drawn with one of theirs. It doesn't exactly say they're confident in the quality of their product, especially when for some reason they picked AI art that looks like ass.

 

[ShooterOfCum]

This has been a practice since time immemorial and used to be the domain of the vastly wealthy or already successful.

The other thing as well is that the phenomenon of crediting work is actually pretty new. Particularly in the Medieval Ages, very few artists really gave a shit about being credited. They were just satisfied with making something that was presentable before God and their sovereign; their name be damned. They were confident that people would know them by the sheer quality of their work, not because they scribbled their name on the work. That is, if they even cared about being known.

Now, I don't really see anything wrong with wanting to be credited for your work. I just wanted to say that even something as seemingly basic as that is a relatively new trend, and these Xitter leeches are the epitome of everything that makes real art suck and difficult to find today.

 

[weirdMcGee]

The other thing as well is that the phenomenon of crediting work is actually pretty new. Particularly in the Medieval Ages, very few artists really gave a shit about being credited. They were just satisfied with making something that was presentable before God and their sovereign; their name be damned. They were confident that people would know them by the sheer quality of their work, not because they scribbled their name on the work. That is, if they even cared about being known.

Now, I don't really see anything wrong with wanting to be credited for your work. I just wanted to say that even something as seemingly basic as that is a relatively new trend, and these Xitter leeches are the epitome of everything that makes real art suck and difficult to find today.

Honestly, this is like a offtopic, but imagine your like scrolling through 4chan. You stumble across a nice piece of art, no, a literal masterpiece. Scan it in google image search, yandex, saucenao....nothing. There's nothing. Ask around, none, nada, zilch. And if you do find it? turns out the account who made it went on a meltdown and deleted everything. Such is life.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Another one bites the dust (all over a Wacom oopsie).

Behavior like this right here is part of why I'm adamant about putting AI in the back pocket of my gamedev work. No the artists malding over it, but the incredibly fickle and flakey nature of a lot of artists. I've been burned repeatedly in personal art commissions by artist suddenly flaking out, "Just not feeling it" and refunding after months, etc, that I genuinely doubt my ability to keep talent on a project without spending unrealistic sums on them to do so. The more design, concept and ideation I can shuffle off into the AI space, the less likely I am to be burned by a twitter drama queen. Especially in modern days, where I also really want to make sure my projects don't get attached to someones social crusades or political causes.

I prefer working with humans, but some of you straight up go outta your way to make it difficult to work with you. I've had someone cancel a concept art project because they felt guilty over Israel - The artist lived in Taiwan. AI is far from perfect but fuck, "Delivers anything" is a low bar to cross innit.

 

[weirdMcGee]

Behavior like this right here is part of why I'm adamant about putting AI in the back pocket of my gamedev work. No the artists malding over it, but the incredibly fickle and flakey nature of a lot of artists. I've been burned repeatedly in personal art commissions by artist suddenly flaking out, "Just not feeling it" and refunding after months, etc, that I genuinely doubt my ability to keep talent on a project without spending unrealistic sums on them to do so. The more design, concept and ideation I can shuffle off into the AI space, the less likely I am to be burned by a twitter drama queen. Especially in modern days, where I also really want to make sure my projects don't get attached to someones social crusades or political causes.

I prefer working with humans, but some of you straight up go outta your way to make it difficult to work with you. I've had someone cancel a concept art project because they felt guilty over Israel - The artist lived in Taiwan. AI is far from perfect but fuck, "Delivers anything" is a low bar to cross innit.

Yea, we get burned out a lot but it's no excuse to back out and fuck off...AFTER MONTHS OF NOTHING. Want hires on broad since some projects take a lot of out of me. One problem--ain't good with people. Compounded with the fickle nature of some creatives, instant hell. I feel like I have to vet first as there's no telling if the fuckers a pedo, neopronouns autistic minor, or an all around control freak. I wish my two computers could handle local diffusion, cuz man i would kill get my grimey hands on it for BGs and art inspo...

 

[TapewormBillie]

Holy shit anti AI artists fucked themselves by fighting to make AI slop noncopyrightable. So my team uses AI for a few things, not the final product, and we learn that some new AI model trained on AI generated data while testing Midjourney out.

Do you know what that means? If AI output can't be copyrighted, then AI training on its own output can't be liable for lawsuits or copyright infringement. And that'd where most AI art is going too.
In probably a year, it will be completely impossible for artists to sue AI art generators, and artists themselves are the ones pushing for this because they are cripplingly tech illiterate and keep worshipping Vaush's unwashed bean cock and other troon luddites who keeps pushing falsehoods about how it works. Goddamn, Private Pyle.


And why the fuck is it that troons are the biggest anti AI people now? It's almost a cliché that if you're a troon, you hate AI art, and vice versa.