AI Art Seething General

[TapewormBillie]

I don't know a crazy amount about AI, but some years back, some Redditor called literally all of this happening. And I mean years before DALLE or GPT. He outlined in detail everything that is happening now down to individual stuff like text to image and making music from raw audio waveforms, all supposed to happen around this exact time, and the responses were a mix of either saying it wouldn't happen for decades or excitement. I didn't see anyone seethe, but then again, I don't think anyone thought he was sane

It's also because troons show up in art circles because they are porn addicts and the art community, especially on Twitter is a hotbed of porn addicts. They have a low esteem for what they are so they try to use causes like this to cope.

What I don't get is that AI slop would be perfect to troon everything up. Don't like some dude being a dude? Filter him into being an ugly vitiligo tranny. More power to you. Don't like your manly voice? AI shift that into your animu little girl dream. Want to be an anime pedo girl? Use AI to bring that to life.

Troons stand to gain everything from AI, yet they're the most against it because it looks like it was all about enforcing their degeneracy on others, not actually expressing themselves.

Genuine artists and old school traditionalists/anti-industrial technology types, I can get. I'm more worried about this shitting up the internet even more. But people who literally rely on altering reality and using technology to do it, hate this tech. Just don't get it.

 

[X Prime]

Regarding the Wacom thing, it turned out to be dumber than imagined.

Turned out they used a dragon from Adobe's marketplace, that was not properly tagged as AI generated so it wouldn't be excluded.

In other words, it wasn't wholly their fuckup. They should have hired a human they knew directly, though.

 

[Colon capital V]

This is what I don't fucking get about these artists bitching about AI and shit. You got all these companies using AI because AI is easier, more cost effective, and can output (subjectively) good artwork at the drop of a hat. Okay, would the next logical step with this be to actually become an independent artist/business and make a profit using AI then?
Is the whole fucking point of this "War on AI" not because of Money and self-sustainment? You people constantly complain about how "[Big Company] treats us like shit and we want better benefits and health care and so and so" and yet not a single fucking moment do you think to yourselves "You know what? I hate working at this place I don't like, maybe now with the prospect of the Internet and AI, I could actually make MONEY with my INDEPENDENT WORK instead of slaving away helping some other schmuck get rich". But no, these cretins would rather bitch and moan about a company to baby them some more instead of taking matters into their own hands and make a profit. Sure, anyone can "make their own AI generated images", much like how "anyone can learn to draw what they want", but customers come to you to complete a task so they don't have to put up with the headache of doing it themselves. When it comes to art, especially in the online space, people come to you for 2 things: Your personality and your style of artwork. And when it comes to business: Efficiency and quality are king. So when people come to you, they come because they like you as a person with a good reputation and you make good artwork at a reasonable pace. AI could literally speed up the process of their artwork to their clients and yet they refuse because "muh morals, muh ego, muh SOVL!!1!"
Some people are so astonishingly business/money retarded at how they're passing by amazing opportunities to make cash all in the name of... sentimental value?

We are living in one of the most easily profitable eras of our generation (for better or for worse), and these people would rather bitch and moan at a company using AI when they could be making good content, good money, and build an entire audience that likes them with these easily accessible tools. In fact, I hope they find work at a multi-billion dollar company. I hope they work in sweatshops from the deepest, dankest depths of whatever jewish owned, Blackrock-backed business they suck the circumsized cock of day-in, day-out if they're getting this mad over a company using AI instead of hiring themselves for their own job as a independent, self-employed artist.

And on that note, I think it's important to realize that companies using AI won't necessarily "make good content again" it's just an easier way on turning a profit. So that means you still got gay shit like microtransactions in games, and any "woke shit" in films and TV shows won't go away either because kikes love subliminally controlling the masses with that and AI will probably just make it easier to do so.
This should also be a further incentive on using AI as an independent because big companies should eat shit while Indie artists can rise high in the ranks if they put in the work and build their own businesses.

 

[X Prime]

This is what I don't fucking get about these artists bitching about AI and shit. You got all these companies using AI because AI is easier, more cost effective, and can output (subjectively) good artwork at the drop of a hat. Okay, would the next logical step with this be to actually become an independent artist/business and make a profit using AI then?

The point is gatekeeping along political lines. Nobody cared about AI taking trucker jobs because they were presumed to be right-wing plebs.

But artists? Those are assumed to be left-wing creatives. Not plebs, but intellectuals. Suddenly, AI is a problem.

It sounds reductionist, but if you check the history of most of the loudest complainers I will guarantee they are predominantly left-wing.

Much of the outrage is astroturfed, like most political outrage. The strongest determinant of whether a given art piece is widely liked or not isn't quality, but whether the "right people" push it. You can see this on any art-focused community.

 

[ShooterOfCum]

Is the whole fucking point of this "War on AI" not because of Money and self-sustainment?

That's a big ask of extremely massive retards. Logical reasoning? Pragmatic thinking? Temporary concessions for greater gains in the future? No. I must have my validation on Twitter RIGHT NOW.

 

[Whatevermancer]

The point is gatekeeping along political lines.

Exactly. Artists are left-wing plebs, that's why we're cheering on them losing their jobs.

Nobody cared about AI taking trucker jobs

Fortunately, it's not happening yet, AFAIK autonomous cars are still very unreliable.

 

[linchan]

The point is gatekeeping along political lines. Nobody cared about AI taking trucker jobs because they were presumed to be right-wing plebs.

But artists? Those are assumed to be left-wing creatives. Not plebs, but intellectuals. Suddenly, AI is a problem.

It sounds reductionist, but if you check the history of most of the loudest complainers I will guarantee they are predominantly left-wing.

Much of the outrage is astroturfed, like most political outrage. The strongest determinant of whether a given art piece is widely liked or not isn't quality, but whether the "right people" push it. You can see this on any art-focused community.

The people who are developing AI are leftist technology progressivists and people against AI are also leftists for the reason you mentioned it. The right might exist but not as prominently in the topic of AI as the left, at most pro-AI right wingers are celebrating a field largely of liberals getting replaced while Anti's look down on AI as inferior to traditional art. The AI debacle is largely leftist shit-flinging.

 

[ShooterOfCum]

The AI debacle is largely leftist shit-flinging.

I think it is more accurate to say that AI is when the megacorporate Silicon Valley pandering to leftists comes to an end, since it is no longer financially expedient to them. Of course, genuine leftists are shocked when their wholesome Keanu Chungus heart-of-reddit-gold favourite megacorporation turns out to be entirely motivated by profit and never gave a flying fuck about them in the first place.

There are occasionally some self-aware leftists, like the one who made this video. It is obvious the author is leftist, since he alludes to Marxist theory and complains about capitalism, and says how AI is just one of many capitalism's arms. It's actually not a terrible video in the first half, where he reveals how these companies use(d) what amounts to sweatshop labour to train their machine learning algorithms. Worth a watch for the first half, but the second half is just retarded ideological tripe.

However, the vast overwhelming majority of leftists are way too retarded to see how they have been duped by the very capitalist pigs they claim to hate. They will continue to blame all of their shortcomings on evil mean nahrzees on the Internet.

 

[Humble Fantabulist]

I think one of the big reasons artists get so mad about AI is that the whole internet art community has been geared towards making your hobby your job. It seems like a little over a decade ago, a lot of hobbyist started taking things more serious in hopes of eventually becoming a professional. And by "taking things seriously" I mean adopting the rough, samey concept art style that's now among the easiest to generate with AI. A decent amount of artists making bank on Patreon definitely didn't help with this development.

There is (soon to be was, I assume) a whole cottage industry of concept artists making and selling video tutorials on how to make the type of art the corporations like. Concept artists also tend to use photobashing, which I don't see as much different than using built-in AI tools like Photoshop and CSP are rolling out. Somehow that always got a pass, though, probably because it was under most people's radars.

So I think the problem is mostly a material one, rather than being about what "real art" is. And I get it, it sucks if you poured years of your life into becoming a professional artist, maybe you're even still in debt because you got scammed by a worthless art school, but sooner than later you have to face reality. The top percent of artists will be able to keep doing it as a job (because they're basically celebrities and celebrities will always find ways to make money), but nameless industry artists and lower end porn artists definitely won't for much longer. But of course, the people we like to talk about here would rather cling to delusions and fight an unwinnable fight than face objective facts.

If these developments make you give up on art as a career, that's fair. But if you give up on art completely because of this, you were just doing it for money and fame, so don't act all dramatic about it.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

The strongest determinant of whether a given art piece is widely liked or not isn't quality, but whether the "right people" push it. You can see this on any art-focused community.

One need look no further than Cinema Robert's thread, although he is a particularly abhorrent person that even most of his otherwise ideological ilk despise, even if they do not otherwise decry.

 

[weirdMcGee]

I think one of the big reasons artists get so mad about AI is that the whole internet art community has been geared towards making your hobby your job. It seems like a little over a decade ago, a lot of hobbyist started taking things more serious in hopes of eventually becoming a professional. And by "taking things seriously" I mean adopting the rough, samey concept art style that's now among the easiest to generate with AI. A decent amount of artists making bank on Patreon definitely didn't help with this development.

There is (soon to be was, I assume) a whole cottage industry of concept artists making and selling video tutorials on how to make the type of art the corporations like. Concept artists also tend to use photobashing, which I don't see as much different than using built-in AI tools like Photoshop and CSP are rolling out. Somehow that always got a pass, though, probably because it was under most people's radars.

So I think the problem is mostly a material one, rather than being about what "real art" is. And I get it, it sucks if you poured years of your life into becoming a professional artist, maybe you're even still in debt because you got scammed by a worthless art school, but sooner than later you have to face reality. The top percent of artists will be able to keep doing it as a job (because they're basically celebrities and celebrities will always find ways to make money), but nameless industry artists and lower end porn artists definitely won't for much longer. But of course, the people we like to talk about here would rather cling to delusions and fight an unwinnable fight than face objective facts.

If these developments make you give up on art as a career, that's fair. But if you give up on art completely because of this, you were just doing it for money and fame, so don't act all dramatic about it.

Shit, is this really true? I mean, I always hated Artstation because the vast majority of it was soulless, "Oh, notice me, corpo senpai" slop. None of it comes from the heart, only the brain, because, logically, if I push these buttons, I'll get cash instantly. Drawing what they love never comes up. If it does, they pass it off as hokey nonsense yet conveniently wax peotic about the truest form of suffering. You can't enjoy art. A true artist must hate everything they put out because then you'll stagnate, and we can't have that in this competitive economy. Hobbies? Pastimes? Timewasters? Get back to the grind, Dweeb!


I'm going to get crucified for this, but as an artist, I hate that I must suffer just to draw what I like. Why the art fundies? Why must we slave away every waking day on freaking scribbles when I could press a button and get instant sexy boys? Idk, but I guess everyone else has a sadomasochist kink.

 

[Lockheed Martin Engineer]

I don't think artfags should wait for any meaningful anti AI legislations that will benefit them. US government won't cripple this era Manhattan project over copyright

 

[linchan]

I don't think artfags should wait for any meaningful anti AI legislations that will benefit them. US government won't cripple this era Manhattan project over copyright

Artfags has not suggested any meaningful anti-AI legislation that will benefit them period. They overzealously fight for the expansion of copyright laws that virtually no one other than media conglomerates will benefit from.

 

[Lockheed Martin Engineer]

Texture generation for 3d models

 

[TheCrackMonkey]

I'm shocked that this retard hasn't been posted here already.

https://twitter.com/JonLamArt/

https://archive.is/4xP0S

Just nothing but pages upon pages of pure hysterical seething.

 

[ShooterOfCum]

https://twitter.com/JonLamArt/

LINK (a)
This is fucking hilarious. "Everyone minus incels"? What does that even mean? You are right, his profile is full of shit like this.

 

[Levitica]

Microsoft thought this is a good idea...

 

[Outland Cow]

"Everyone minus incels"? What does that even mean?

I'm the protagonist fighting against the evil empire. If you disagree with me, you are an incel.

 

[AnOminous]

This is fucking hilarious. "Everyone minus incels"? What does that even mean? You are right, his profile is full of shit like this.

I'm not really a huge fan of inevitability as an argument that something is good, but it's a great argument to piss off useless faggots like this to point out they can't do shit about AI, and that they are going to be getting fucked in the ass by a red white and blue Borg whether they like it or not, and they'd best learn to flip burgers.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

they'd best learn to flip burgers.

They best learn to be the best and only burger flipper to serve as the foundation point to train autonomous, deep learning controlled robots. The trick to combatting AI and not placing your personal job at risk is to specialize in something niche but important. Minor PL, started taking a few classes in community college to gain an edge (programming). I've noticed that a majority of the folks in my class already got useless degrees and are now trying to get pragmatic ones.