AI Art Seething General

[linchan]

You are in 2024, where the Despicable Me minions are the champion of human creativity and Pink Floyd contest with judges including the drummer Nick Mason, Film Maker Terry Gilliam, and Gerald Scarfe, the animator for the Wall is the face of AI slop.

https://archive.ph/ADxCB

Ironically the guy who worked on the Minions is there too.

 

[BirdUp]

You are in 2024, where the Despicable Me minions are the champion of human creativity and Pink Floyd contest with judges including the drummer Nick Mason, Film Maker Terry Gilliam, and Gerald Scarfe, the animator for the Wall is the face of AI slop.

https://archive.ph/ADxCB

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its cool

 

[Danann]

I heard of the term "consent based morality" recently, and everyone wanting to implement laws to hamper AI development probably have that in mind for when it comes to what is and isn't used by the AI....while ignoring the fact they are also usually skimping out said "consent based morality" because the people usually asking for this are low-level scrubs who completely ignore this concept by making fanarts of their favorite things.

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

There's at least one instance of an ai model person who decided to turn traitor and it has to be connected to furries somehow. Apparently this traitor made one of the first furry sd models, predating fluffypony and its derivatives. Idk the quality of the model in question but im pretty sure pony and later models will blow it out of the water.
Here's the whole post and the updates

Spoiler: Total ai death

I can't imagine the guy being accepted back into something like Civitai anytime soon

Also have some assorted "seething about ai" moments

Spoiler: The unenlightened masses

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

"Art piracy" That's a stretch and a half.

If you want real "art piracy" go to one of those sites that scrapes patreon/similar stuff and post it there for everyone to see.

 

[Bloudwulf]

If you want real "art piracy" go to one of those sites that scrapes patreon/similar stuff and post it there for everyone to see.

But Robin Hood was a good guy.

 

[MDWU]

I think AI is a pretty cool guy. Sorry about your gay little doodles or whatever. I hear Starbucks is hiring

 

[Crocodylus Acutus]

Is a man not entitled to the enjoyment of art?

'No!' says the Twitter porn artist, 'It belongs to the furry inflationists.'
'No!' says the multi-billion dollar tech company, 'It belongs to Google.'
'No!' says the retard in the YouTube comment section, 'It belongs to no body'
I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the memeable. I chose... BingAI

I am now... le artiste.

 

[Pig Boss]

There's at least one instance of an ai model person who decided to turn traitor and it has to be connected to furries somehow. Apparently this traitor made one of the first furry sd models, predating fluffypony and its derivatives. Idk the quality of the model in question but im pretty sure pony and later models will blow it out of the water.
Here's the whole post and the updates

Spoiler: Total ai death

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I can't imagine the guy being accepted back into something like Civitai anytime soon

Also have some assorted "seething about ai" moments

Spoiler: The unenlightened masses

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Based furries dabbing on faggot artists. Never thought I'd see the day when I took the side of the furry menace.

 

[AmpleApricots]

These tricks to "sabotage" future iterations of AI by "poisoning the well" are years too late. Current AI datasets are AI curated and categorized themselves, these images will never end up in any final dataset and if they do, they'll be neatly categorized with the exact kinds of distortion they have. There's even a whole aesthetics score system. Do these people really think something like SD could be done without having the ability to categorize and "rate" the dataset in specific ways? You know how much shitty art is out there without these numbskulls trying to make their own art shitty on purpose?

I love total artist death because I've never met a non-hobbyist, visual artist who wasn't an narc asshole in some way. It also explains their complete unwillingness to even understand the technology, which would make it much easier for them to form arguments that aren't completely retarded.

 

[weirdMcGee]

These tricks to "sabotage" future iterations of AI by "poisoning the well" are years too late. Current AI datasets are AI curated and categorized themselves, these images will never end up in any final dataset and if they do, they'll be neatly categorized with the exact kinds of distortion they have. There's even a whole aesthetics score system. Do these people really think something like SD could be done without having the ability to categorize and "rate" the dataset in specific ways? You know how much shitty art is out there without these numbskulls trying to make their own art shitty on purpose?

I love total artist death because I've never met a non-hobbyist, visual artist who wasn't an narc asshole in some way. It also explains their complete unwillingness to even understand the technology, which would make it much easier for them to form arguments that aren't completely retarded.

Once again because of mental illness. Artistic pursuits became a hotbed for the mentally unwell for as long as art existed. The man behind the starry night piece, vincent van gogh, cut off his ear out of psychotic episode. Pablo Picasso suffered from depression. Osama tezuka had a tf kink. Normies are simply unable to produce art with sovl becuase their normie minds can never fully comprehend the madness, the beautiful but also rancid madness of art. Sadly, human made art will live. There's some things AI can't do or will never due thanks to its nature as a computerized process. I think AI on it's own isn't enough. You still gotta edit it, retweak it, and inadvertently learn art that way. If you really want to avoid comming an artist, unironically, use ai to get good at art. It's really not that hard and though some might alog over this post, it's true. AI at the moment is a overgloried reference tool and until it improves, we're in it for the long haul i'm afraid.

 

[Jeb Bush]

We have reached the point, where furry Twitter art retards (a frequent subject in this thread) are now on both sides of this issue - after some realized they can get their animal porn and reply images for free, if they switch sides.

Here is one particularly unique specimen:


The socialism/anarchist AI art equality cope thread (troonshine included):


(archive.today link)

As you might have noticed, all the text in these images is nonsense, as they cannot even be bothered, to edit anything the A.I. spits out.

The start of #BreakThePencil (source and more autism)

bugged pencil mechanics

I will end this, with one example of a reply image, before this post gets too long.


I'm personally not the biggest fan of A.I. art, but I'm perfectly fine, with it being used for memes, song covers and any other form of shitposting. I also prefer when people use the open models, over paying companies that profit of whatever code they took and art they scraped, but at the end of the day, I will never care enough to apply shitty filters over anything I draw, or start adding other "anti-scraping autismo measures", that don't even work, to any of the drawings I share online.

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

At what point do the anti-ai discorse becomes too much?
In my opinion, it is when people stop making sound arguments and start slinging death threats. Credible-sounding actionable death threats to be exact.

Spoiler: What not to do when fighting AI

 

[AnOminous]

At what point the anti-ai discorse becomes too much?
In my opinion, it is when people stop making sound argument and start slinging death threats. Credible-sounding actionable death threats to be exact.

If AI will exterminate these vermin I'm all for it.

 

[The Deep State]

One thing that really struck me about this whole fiasco is how rightoids are leaning pro-AI art and leftoids/normies are the ones who are generally against it. You'd expect the tradition fags to be more upset about the AI-fication of human skill and creativity.

I've always found it peculiar how tradcons, despite their fixation on art in the context of western civ dying off (sculptures, paintings, architecture, etc. - I mean, it's the whole aesthetic of the west), have so little of their own art to show for it - 99% of it being frogs and jaks. It's perfectly in line with how they don't/can't live up to anything else they preach either. Really goes to show how most "values" people claim to have are just part of some gay larp to cope with whatever insecurities got them politically charged in the first place. The only real deciding factor for whether you're for or against AI has been whether or not you're an artist, regardless of politics and other BS.

But even as an artist seething about AI art myself, I still like to shit on both sides. Before you call me a gutless fence sitter, hear me out. I didn't like the AI animation done by Corridor Crew for the same reason most people didn't - it's uncanny and triggers a primal disgust reaction (and they kind of "stole" the art). Here's the thing though - I never liked the hyper fluid jello-like movements of Old Disney animation for the same reason - it's uncanny, slightly creepy, and looks less realistic, not more - and I say this as a fan of Old Disney. Difference is, other artists would call me crazy for the latter (but it's sooo fluid brooo), but they are now having the same reaction to the former. Okay, eat shit I guess.

I also burst out laughing when I read about the AI spergs "diversifying" that faggot Sam Yang's artwork because "he only draws college age Asian girls" or something - because it's 100% true. He draws the same thing over and over again and I have no idea why he's popular.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

At what point do the anti-ai discorse becomes too much?
In my opinion, it is when people stop making sound arguments and start slinging death threats. Credible-sounding actionable death threats to be exact.

Spoiler: What not to do when fighting AI

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It's all furries too. Also Forge is up to their old tricks of luke warm edge.

 

[Colon capital V]

At what point do the anti-ai discorse becomes too much?
In my opinion, it is when people stop making sound arguments and start slinging death threats. Credible-sounding actionable death threats to be exact.

Spoiler: What not to do when fighting AI

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>Engineer
That's putting it very generously, lol

 

[The Grimace]

You'd expect the tradition fags to be more upset about the AI-fication of human skill and creativity.

I think the consensus is that a great deal of self-proclaimed artists are just turning out nonstop garbage. Either pretentious "i put three paint dots on a canvas"-tier "art" that sells for millions in a gallery, or drawing random anime characters as fat transsexual nignogs. It's not like many people (if any) are out there making much of that "traditional" art like ancient greek statues or whatever they cream their pants over. And I mean, the phrases "artist" and "pretentious faggot" go together like peanut butter and jelly.

I personally think people who AI prompt but insist they're artists for it are retarded, but people who actually draw seethe over the images and insisting on stricter copyright laws so "muh art don't get stolen." As if humans aren't both consciously and unconsciously inspired by things they've already seen when they're creating something new- all artwork is derivative. I find it bizarre that so many left-leaning artists are siding with copyright jewry they'd be crying and screaming over if it meant they couldn't draw Nintendo character porn.

 

[Girahira]

Either pretentious "i put three paint dots on a canvas"-tier "art" that sells for millions in a gallery, or drawing random anime characters as fat transsexual nignogs. It's not like many people (if any) are out there making much of that "traditional" art like ancient greek statues or whatever they cream their pants over.

I once had a conversation with an art graduate(who actually supported AI, and his handmade art wasn’t even tumblrshit) about how most ’art’ you see on social media nowadays is really just visual McDonald’s takeout. It serves no meaning, it serves no purpose but to be a quick dopamine fix. One you look at and go ‘wowsers! My favourite anime tiddy mommy!’ and then scroll past onto the next. That’s why there’s a mentality among social media fags going ‘Don’t be sad your art may not be as good as someone else’s, ppl are just happy seeing more art’(it was a cake allegory, if someone knows), because it doesn’t matter either way. Both are just as meaningless. Deprived of any critical or deeper thought.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

I think the consensus is that a great deal of self-proclaimed artists are just turning out nonstop garbage. Either pretentious "i put three paint dots on a canvas"-tier "art" that sells for millions in a gallery, or drawing random anime characters as fat transsexual nignogs. It's not like many people (if any) are out there making much of that "traditional" art like ancient greek statues or whatever they cream their pants over. And I mean, the phrases "artist" and "pretentious faggot" go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Yeah, the guy talking about how the right-leaning section of the internet embracing AI art means some big betrayal of their values is missing the forest for the trees on the entire issue. They love AI art simply because it pisses off the Twitter artists and entrenched "liberal" culture that is predominant among various artistic communities online. I'm pretty sure the majority of them when asked to give their honest views on the matter would agree that it should not and will not fully replace human-created content, it's just that the idea it could is a fun issue to press because the reaction the opposing side has when pushed is so aggravated. If the initial response to the advancement of AI-generated images were milder then the argument itself probably wouldn't have been dragged into the current culture war and instead pushed into the background. That didn't happen so people jumped headfirst into the political debate frenzy and there is now a vested interest in promoting or destroying the technology for reasons beyond the "human soul" moral conundrum.

I mean it was pretty naive of those in the creative fields to think that their profession was somehow forever immune to the changes that new technologies would inevitably bring or at the very least assumed they would always be the ones at the forefront to implement them in the ways their group wanted. There was ample time to squash the fledging data-collection algorithms when they were young during the mid to late 2000s but that meant going against the new wave of internet centralization heralded by Google and Twitter which was unthinkable since it also provided them with the modern "hate-free" social media apps they love so much now. They got so used to the idea that "progress" would always dance to their tune so that when it didn't they were caught completely flatfooted with only their smug complacency to blame for why they didn't see the warning signs sooner. Now that I type it out, is it any wonder why the right-wingers love AI Art so much? It's the perfect cudgel to hit their political rivals in the head with for the next decade or two it seems.

The age-old dichotomy between "technophobic conservative vs science-loving progressive liberal" has now been reversed, if only for this one subject, so, of course, they're gonna gloat about the sheer situation even existing despite how out of character it seems for them as a whole. Never let a good crisis go to waste.