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That's really fucking cool. It's literally like watching an infant develop. Also this is probably going to stick in my link archive now. It is a perfect example of how "useless experiments" lay the foundations for pragmatic and practical solutions to larger problems.
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BUT IT'S KILLING MAH MONEY MAKING SCHEME, ERM MY ABILITY TO DRAW SMUT, CHUD?!?! IT'S A FUCKING GENOCIDE!!!
Good, I am glad it's showing progress and promise. Applied sciences and especially areas in health could use plenty of help. You know what I'm rooting for the most? Research in cancer. Sure, it is the spreading of diseased/sickened cells, yet who knows how Artificial Intelligence and 3D printing may work together here?
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New fucking furry retardation. Entire thing's a shitshow and well it's furries so you know
There was a shit load of retards on moth's posts too but I mean you can already see the length of this post.
I do not know what to make of this guy. I mean he's a furry so the judgement is a bit harder. Seems like either a shit stirrer or just a bit autistic. Posts right wing stuff that seems legit but it's american politics so I'd rather look at the furry shit he posts.
Before I start the main post, he posted this which I will not include the full video of.
The original photo is just the two furries standing next to each other with their arms on the other's shoulder. This guy got grok to animate them hugging and then humping each other. I think the guy on the right is the op but I have no idea who the one on the left is and have no desire to figure it out. It's just a bit fucking rapey to make what looks like a normal photo into softcore porn looking in from the outside.
Anyway. He commissioned a
she/her
furry artist I believe for 110usd.
Here's the image.
Posted by the artist 9th sep.
I go to the commissioner's account, ai stuff in the media tab around but before the 9th. The guy was already publicly using ai before the commission, at least before it was completed. Knowing furries though that means nothing, probably took months to deliver but thought it was worth pointing out.
Anyway. This guy who has paid for this image, I'm no expert on these sorts of contracts but as far as I'm aware this image is now his property, he has paid for labour and received goods in return, as far as I'm aware he is able to do whatever the fuck he wants with it outside of commercial purposes. I think. Could be wrong but this is 'retards online' not 'lawyer explains contracts'.
So he does just that. He takes what he paid for and does what he wants with it.
Honestly. Meh. It's one of those things that I would do just to see how the technology is but it's pretty fucking scuffed. Most notably the lighting. Ai fucking despises snow at the best of times, pretty annoying to try get low light images too. But it's cool to see the technology even if it's a bit shit. If it kept the lighting then it'd be really good.
Also from going through this guy's account he seems to be more on the genuine pro ai right wing chud side even if a bit spergy, rather than an outright troll. He was shitting on palestine retards and getting a decent following from it which kinda based.
The problem is that he decided to tag the artist in the post. She/her probably wouldn't have noticed if he didn't. Mostly because he posted this a month before the artist posted the image.
So you know, obviously enjoys putting commissions through grok to animate them. It's just the same type of pose and shit, not worth null's server space to include it here.
But the artist saw and responded. For reference the ai one got 1.5k likes.
Idk how you use ai over the original image though?
So you remember how this guy had been posting ai stuff and animating commissions for a month before the artist finished this image?
Yea well now she has decided that now he is comfortable using ai? The guy, look, as much as I'll say yea I kinda agree with him, look they're both fucking furries it's like being a spectator to an sen fight. The message he sent is fucking retarded as shit. Why would the moth offer to put something through an animation ai? Like yea, they could have, they could have also like I was going to say offered to suck you off too but they're furries so that's pretty possible, idk could have offered to do your taxes for you too. Also the bitch's tos is like a fucking bible. It's just a neverending card link. Oh, ok, yea. I had another look. 'Turnaround may take up to 3-6 months'. Fucking half a year for a png. I wonder why people might turn to AI instead of waiting fucking 6 months? She says it depends on how much work she has, which is fucking retarded. No that's not how contractors work, you know coming from someone who is an actual contractor. If you cannot finish the work in a decent period of time you do not take the contract. If you have other shit going on you do not take the contract. If you take a commission you should be in a position to start and finish it within a period of time shorter than a fucking council road worker. If you have so much 'work' to do that you cannot finish an image until 6 fucking months later then you just say something like 'commissions closed for now'.
Anyway. Here's the messages.
This first one is from moth, so blue is moth.
This one is from snowcat, so grey is moth.
Once again furries remain unchallenged as the most retarded group online. At least all the other retards are knowledgeable about one thing, sonic fans might be retarded but they'll be able to tell you exactly how many chaos emeralds can fit in sonic's urethra and prove it with a 500 page phd paper they wrote. But not furries, they're just retarded without any useful hyperfixation other than dog cocks and grooming kids. Like what the fuck is this exchange? What am I meant to say? 'hey you could offer to put your work into ai for people' 'no that's scamming' like what the fuck does that mean? How the fuck is 'hey do you want me to ai animate this image for you' a scam? Like hold on, ok, I was just checking, I knew I saw a 6 in moth's bio, I was just checking it was a 26 not a 16 because you could fucking fool me. Yea so offering services that you don't do is a scam, that makes sense, but how the fuck can you say that in reply to someone saying you should offer this service? This exchange is so fucking retarded I do not know what I am even meant to be reading. How can you not understand what the guy is saying? 'offer to put the commission through an ai animator, maybe fix some of the anatomical fuck ups'; how is that difficult to understand? I feel like I'm going crazy just trying to understand what the fuck is a scam here?
Like what does this even mean? What the fuck is the relevance?
I'm just moving on because I do not want to have a stroke.
Oh yea moth also seems to have just left her name out there too. Just incase you were doubting the sheer thinking power of these people.
But everyone's favourite retard came back to comment on this post too.
Because of course the retard continues to be retarded. If you expose an account to an audience that you know will not like their content why would you expect them to get a massive following? If JKR retweeted some tranny and called it a disgusting beast do you think all the evil transphobes that follow her are going to suddenly follow the tranny too? Also just because these people are retarded, 60 followers is decent. The moth post got 50k likes and 2k followers. So 1/25 people followed. I'm rounding but so is she. Snowcat got 1.5k likes and 60 follows. Do you want to take a crack at the like to follow ratio. Because it's a fucking golden one. It's such beauty that can only come from this level of retard. That's right. It's fucking 1 in 25. They got the same like to follow ratio. Absolute fucking kino.
Also it's not even true? She just can't fucking read?
Here's snowcat's response to the 'drama', can you see the number '60' anywhere in this post?
He actually got a ratio of 1:18.5, or 25% better than moth did lol. What a fucking brag. Next they'll be saying black people commit less crimes because they only commit 40% of them or whatever it is.
As for his actual post, idk. Maybe this is a heccin racebait and I have been poeslawed into a snafu. But like, doesn't seem like it at least. It does just seem like something he wanted to do which is fair enough. But at the same time they are furries so autism and alexithymia cannot be ruled out.
But he's right. It did produce a lot of people to laugh at
And that's where I come in.
Here's him saying something that I already said.
Which yea, I agree with. He paid for it why shouldn't he do whatever the fuck he wants with it? Type of retards to support ubisoft and that type of modern gaming industry faggots.
But here's some of the replies to his.
I mean for one there's nothing legally binding about a tos, you do know that right? It's a terms of service, the service has been completed, there's no more terms because you are no longer providing me a service. Fairly sure at least. But even if I'm wrong on that then these sorts of contracts are still not fully legally binding anyway. You can sign a contract and break the terms and it not be a legal issue because the terms were retarded. But here's the specific part about the carrd regarding ai.
I mean, yea it does kinda cover it. I mean does animating an image count as generating something? I guess it's generating an animation? I guess. Either way I wouldn't give a shit. Too lazy to finish an image within 6 months so you know.
Of course this reply got a lot of the typical speds.
Yea, 'quite literally' indeed.
It IS the same.
You know, for no sorry, I keep fucking every time. Every fucking post I do the same shit where I go to say something about common sense or being able to think and completely forget the type of person we're talking about. But isn't it crazy how even years later these people are still too fucking retarded to actually understand how ai works? Imagine being so deadset on being against something you don't even understand the basics of how it works. Next you'll be telling me nuclear fuel can do a Hiroshima. You know what is giving the AI training material? Fucking uploading it to the internet, especially twitter, you know just like moth did herself? That's getting it in to the training data, uploading it to grok just isn't as far as I'm aware.
He also doesn't own the artist's email account either, commissioning her didn't transfer ownership of her smart fridge account.
Mostly because fucking moth herself explicitly says that she transfers personal usage rights to the commissioner in her fucking tos that everyone likes to point at. She directly says 'Your commission is for personal use only' ie you own the rights to the image other than commercial rights. Him putting the image into ai is personal use. And why would copyright mean anything anyway? It's just completely irrelevant. Copyright has nothing to do with the original fucking comment? 'animating an image with ai is different from training an ai on the image' 'YEA WELL YOU DONT OWN THE COPYRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' like what the fuck does this have to do with anything?
Actually no, he can do whatever he wants. That's what personal usage rights are. She has explicitly given him the permission to do whatever he fucking wants with the image outside of commercial purposes. And once again; is posting an ai animation in any way a commercial act? Did he gain money from that post? And why would communicating mean anything? It's a fucking furry online, nothing they say will mean anything, everyone pretends to know what they're talking about and most have no fucking clue and it's just another game of chinese whispers with autists retards and schizos. I mean does anyone really want to communicate with 'just your average degenerate @ justyourdegen69'?
Just wonder where does it clearly say not to use the art in ai video?
Idk. I guess I can't read?
Another person that thinks i2i or I guess i2v is the same as training data. But man, he fucked the artist over so hard. Unlike moth herself, she didn't fuck over herself when she uploaded her shit to a website that explicitly states that any images uploaded to it can be used for ai training purposes? Or do we only care about reading the tos when it's your favourite retard?
This is why I say he does kinda come across as just a shit stirrer.
I mean he's clearly stirring shit and being a cunt to annoy people. But it's out of a place of sincerity rather than doing it just for the sake of fucking with people.
Anyway in reply to this obviously shit stirring reply it of course had a load of replies.
Well, they said it themselves, they used the word 'us' and skilled artist. Let's have a look shall we Yep. More boring generic furry shit that I've seen literal children create. Also once again I personally know several artists that like ai shit. They don't participate in ai stuff because they're fucking artists and they have an art account? Have you ever considered that normal people don't just post everything to one single account? No. The answer is no. But hey I would love to see how that lawsuit would hold up, you know considering that the tos is contradictory and that moth gave explicit permission to do whatever the fuck you want with the image.
I'm putting this here retroactively because it doesn't fit anywhere else but why would anyone give a shit anyway, even if thousands of artists did blacklist this guy it's the fucking furry community, he could easily make an alt, his fursona is a fucking snow leopard it's hardly unique. And there's millions of the same dogshit quality furry artists too, there's an endless amount of them so who gives a shit if some block you?
Oh no. No more art from the cat spirit vtuber. How will anyone ever survive? THE 478 FOLLOWER ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How could you live with yourself knowing that a literal fucking who won't take your money? I can't even find any examples of their fucking art anyway. The entire account is retarded shit tranny lover faggotry. I did find this one which I think is beautifully ironic.
Honestly I agree. Stop using the word troon. It's fucking retarded american shit. No american slur hits hard. Troon sounds like a fucking kids tv channel. No american slur could ever come close to tranny or nigger.
Also they posted this which fucking hell.
You called someone a troon yea well I WAS RAPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But no you are all sex pests, you don't deserve to be raped mostly because I'd feel bad if the rapist caught something. Truly the average tranny post. Start off with a guilt trip and the fake withdrawal of commerce and then end it with talking about how you were raped. I don't even know what that's meant to mean. Someone's dad beat me up, I'll assume you were also a teenager at the time though considering tranny shit it would be unsurprising if that was wrong, and the guy beat you up because he thought you were a man pretending to be a woman that looks like a man? Have you considered that maybe it was just an overprotective dad who saw his young daughter with a male? Why the fuck is any tranny shit in there? Unless it's an ftm? Oh yea. It said pregnancy and raped so yea must be a woman. But like, ok, he saw you and correctly thought you were a disgusting sin against God and somehow that means he thinks you're a tranny instead of a pooner? I don't fucking get it. I think this is a them thing right? I mean it could be me but like I don't think it is.
Oh no. My wepwatwon as a cwommissonwer. If you have a reputation as being a retard willing to spend a week's income on a mid image of some furry then your reputation is already of someone who belongs in an asylum. Need to keep up my reputation in the piss kink community, can't let the shit eaters see me slipping you feel?
Here's a furry calling another's brain rotted without a single shred of irony. Your sexuality revolves around fucking animals my guy you are in no place to talk.
I thought furries were pro lgbtqghjakgijr? Why are they being homophobic? I thought sucking cock was valid and good?
Yea they took so much of their precious time. Or well, they took their precious time you should say considering once again fucking 3-6 months.
And how the fuck can you turn around and tell someone that paid over 100usd and waited months for something that they don't care about the work? They fucking paid for it you dumb retard. The only reason it exists in the first place is because they cared enough to fucking pay it into existence.
Another bait comment.
Also just retarded, yea bro the fandom full of animal and child rapists that's full of groomers and epi, but no it's the people paying for art and doing what they want with it that's the problem? This one somehow managed to create the most fucking retarded responses I have maybe ever seen in writing in this thread holy fuck.
Ok. Ai doesn't do anything new, just the same but faster. And that's a bad thing. Anyway horses do the same thing as humans but faster and cars do the same thing as horses but faster and that's why those things are good? How the fuck do they manage to be so self contradictory? Other than the fact that none of them interact with their thoughts enough to realise they're being self contradictory.
I have nothing to say other than just HAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH fucking cars don't pollute? Jesus fucking christ. So retarded that the idea of ai magically consuming water sounds logical.
Yea and I think wanking over images of animals is morally reprehensible too. So when are you stopping that?
This is just like this has to be fucking bait. This has to be someone trolling. There's no way even a furry could be retarded enough to go 'ai is fucking evil and hitler and its killing the environment i can prove it with this fucking ai generated response'. Like holy fucking shit these people. Especially when the ai is literally hallucinating shit. Like they'll go on about how ai is bad because it's always wrong and extra fingers and all that and then this fucking sped used ai and is taking it at fucking face value without thinking holy shit. I don't even think they should be beaten to death with a rock for the good of the genepool this one's so retarded it should be kept in a zoo to be laughed at. Or no, not a zoo, probably get too horny over it's neighbours.
Inside of you there are two wolves
One says that cars made horses unemployed (fucking lol)
The other says that horses were not made unemployed.
Which way western man? The answer is probably down, specifically on the horse.
'cars didnt ruin a caluable resource'???????????????? Nigger have you ever heard of fucking petrol before? Do you know what fossil fuels are? Do you know like how the fucking world works? Do you see what I mean? 'cars dont pollute' 'cars dont use valuable resources' you can see why I said this is the most retarded post I have ever written.
Yea. Those selfish cunts. Nothing screams selfish like fucking paying someone for their work. Nothing screams selfish like paying someone's fucking wages. That's real selfish. Like how retarded are these people holy fucking shit? There's something wrong with the water at furcons, other than roofies and cum that is. Are they making the suits out of asbestos and paracetamol or some shit? These are not human not even retarded humans. Even an actual downie would be able to understand that paying someone for their work makes you kinda not selfish.
Mr nuke israel chiming in to say that ai is not a technology. Thank you mr nuke israel. Lefties are so retarded that I have no idea if this is bait because I have seen people genuinely say this. But hey maybe he's right, lefties do love rewriting the definitions of words to fit their retarded ideals anyway, maybe ai isn't a technology, afterall that fucking bruce jenner creature isn't a man, this isn't that big of a stretch.
And here's the retard bringing up the luddites as a good thing. Does he realise that the luddites weren't actually anti technology? No. Of course not. He doesn't understand anything about them because learning history is harder than making shit up. The luddites specifically opposed the automated loom, not because it would kill children but because it put them out of a job they felt entitled to. They had no qualms about any other type of technology because all of those things benefited them. They didn't care if a blacksmith was put out of work from the invention of the steam hammer because they only cared that they could buy things cheaper, aside from clothing, something that they made to sell. The luddites preferred to leave children out in the cold to freeze to death because it meant they got paid more. Also no one has died as a direct result of ai, not even the poor and unprotected. Not even the retards that killed themselves, kinda in the phrase there, tells you exactly who did it.
But holy fuck. Anti ai retards are retarded enough but furries are a different breed of retarded. Kinda glad tbh, medically not allowed to drink for a while but it doesn't matter, I already feel fucking drunk just trying to comprehend what the fuck these retards are on about.
Another fucking vtumour coming in to drop some #FAXNDLOGIC bombs.
Because you committed a CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't going to include the vtumour post until I saw this post because fucking hell I hate these absolute retards. Oh did someone hurt your wikkle feefees? Who the fuck gives a shit? I hate this autistic shit where every single fucking thing online must never offend anyone at all. It is the most harmful social movement that there is, worse than trannies and infinite jeets and all those things because it underlines all of those. Stop fucking catering your entire life around the idea that maybe you might offend someone. Some people deserve to be offended. Who gives a shit if some generic fugfag is offended?
Another bait comment.
But no. I don't remember that? Mostly because I have this thing called a job and a life and go to this thing called 'the outside' instead of listening to your echochamber bullshit. Like no you don't get to just brand everything as a bad thing and just try to gaslight anyone who questions it into thinking that actually no they do agree with you.
Well yea, he will. But once again he fucking paid for the image, he literally fucking paid the artist you retard. And yes. Creativity and skill is not universal. Not everyone is creative or skilled. That's why artists can charge for experience because not everyone has their skills. That's pretty much the sole reason you commission an artist, their skill and creativity.
Yes I would. Nuclear weapons are good. The nuke stopped the single bloodiest conflict of basically all of humanity in a day. Yep it's an incredibly violent and reading the accounts from Japan are some of the worst things you could ever read. But that's war. That's literally just how war works.
Because all of the other retards in this post understand ai so much better right? The only people that spew bullshit about how ai works comes from these retards.
'i can personally see the use in ai and use it but i refuse to even consider that someone else might find use or enjoyment in any other form of ai'
Spoken like a true retard.
Stealing is when you fucking pay for something. Apparently.
Ok so I'm a bad person for liking ai because it damages the ecosystem right ok, I can follow that. Yet if I say that all of india should be nuked and just the entire fucking third world should be completely destroyed people call me a bad person? India is quite literally the worst thing for the environment to ever exist. But no, not allowed to say total fucking jeet death now.
Please someone fucking explain to me, how the fuck is FUCKING PAYING FOR AN IMAGE in any fucking way 'stealing' are these people fucking retarded??? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and im gonig fucking inasnae from these retards. No it didn't fucking go into a data base because it's a fucking i2v not training data you retard. And he fucking did support an artist he fucking paid for the fucking image how the fuck is this in any fucking way not supporting an actual artist he fucking paid for the image please dear fucking god what it wrong with these retards?
Someone said the obvious.
Idk what the fuck he's on about. It trains off of select pixels once, why the fuck would it need the same thing over and over? But like yes it does fucking matter you retard. You can't call someone an evil child killer for doing something when the artist is doing the exact same thing. That is incredibly relevant you retard.
Damn that would be a hard hitting critique if the fucking artist made animations at all. Also no. It's only indians stealing your job. And I thought all the ai was really energy intensive and used so much water? Last I checked that shit wasn't free unless you're a fucking romanian.
I know this retard isn't the one that made the comment the guy isn't replying to but fucking hell. How could you not respond to an adventure time tranny ukraine enby?
I love how they go 'oh you dont know how ai works' and then instantly turn around and show that they are the fucking ones that dont know how ai works. Isn't that crazy?
This is only a proper analogy if the person in the cinema was the owner of the movie studio because he fucking paid for it?????????? How are these people so retarded that they just can't fucking understand that this guy literally paid for the image? Just more retarded false equivalences. As always.
No personal usage rights does actually do that. And once again just fucking hallucinating shit? Isn't it crazy that they just make shit up constantly? What a surprise.
I'm not even screenshotting all of the people being retarded about how ai works but holy fuck there is so many of them. What the fuck does using the entire image to generate mean? He fucking asked for it to be animated? Did you think it was just going to take a random selection from the image and just animate that? These people are fucking baffling.
No it fucking doesn't. And why MUST he commission someone to animate it for him? Why are all animators entitled to his money? He wasn't looking for an animator and then decided to go to ai instead, he just did something for fun. No animator lost money because they were never going to get it. Fucking retards on nintendos anti piracy propaganda.
No they fucking don't you absolute retard. Why are half of the retards vtubers? I wonder if there's a causation there? Oh yea and also the artist's style is incredibly generic and would blend in with every other furfag online.
Oh no, the poor community norms. In a community where the norm is grooming children and being gooners. Oh no. The sacred community of the furries, how will we ever cope if their community norms are violated. I'm so upset about that.
When I buy something from someone I get this thing called 'ownership' which explicitly gives me permission to do whatever the fuck I want with it. If I go to a tailor and buy some handmade dress from them there is nothing stopping me from literally shitting myself in it for sexual pleasure. I can do whatever I want because it is my property. That's part of what property means, a company cannot force me to do or not do something with my property after I have purchased it. That is a violation of my consumer rights.
Which one is the new and which one is the old lol? And I don't understand how people just don't get it either. It is just the fucking result because this guy is not a fucking artist he paid for the image. The only thing this guy gives a shit about is the result because that is the only thing he paid for. He does not give a shit about your personal growth and happiness because he didn't pay for them. You draw what I want and I pay you for it, other than that you fuck off. Not everyone wants to be an artist, how is that hard to understand? Some people just want to see cool shit.
There is no such thing as a 'right to use something in ai'. That's not a thing. There are personal usage rights and commercial rights. That's it. And once again you fucking vtumour he was doing something for fucking personal use? How do these retards not understand that it was personal use?
This person kinda based though.
Same for this one.
And the next one.
Truly a genius. Is this a shitpost? Fuck knows? I've seen countless other retards saying this so idk. This is just more retardation from the most retarded group recently. But surely this person couldn't possibly get any more retarded right?
Wrong. Of course this fucking retard can get worse. Of course they can. Which means they can get even worse.
Ok. Political violence is cool? Ok. I am going to kill you then and you cannot stop me or complain.
Here's an artist who also uses grok to animate their stuff. I don't like it that much but it's still interesting.
What's your favourite train?
Crazy how often they will just outright call for violence. Surely leftist retards would never do something like that right?
HE FUCKING PAID FOR THE WORK AND EMOTION YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER???????????????????????????????????????
Erhhmmmmmmmmm akshually you should just pay thousands for a custom animation. It's unappealing to look at? Ok and I'd say the same thing about the original image but it doesn't fucking matter because it's his account and the only person that gives a shit is the guy who commissioned and paid for it. Furries and liberals will tell you that you can post whatever you want and you're valid and no one should ever criticise what you post and you should never be mean to anyone online, been several in this post, think about how the artist feels poor little artist. But then turn around and will do shit like this? It's his fucking account. You do not get to choose what this guy does and does not post on his account because it is his fucking account you retard. I feel that the word retard has lost meaning, I've said it so fucking much I need the like there's like gross -> tranny (average mean word for them) then you go one up to 'male' which is the worst thing you can say. I need a one up for 'retard' at this point. Oh. Yea. I forgot. There is one.
AMERICAN
Urrrhhhhmmmmmmmmm so yea it says here in the tos of this artist that it says this and that. No of course I didn't read the tos or any information on how ai works, why do you ask? Cares about the details for the artist but can't be fucked to care enough about the thing he hates to even understand how it works. Because anti ai retards really are the most inconsistent people going.
Actually it was his art. He can butcher it if he wants. And because it's interesting you retard? Sorry not everyone is so deep in your echochambers they can't understand the concept of enjoying things.
You know how everyone says ai will kill all artists like literally murder them. I've just become an even bigger lover of ai holy shit. You're telling me I get unlimited images of the characters I love AND get to literally genocide furries? Damn what a fucking deal.
I just despise this mindset so fucking much. Give me one reason to give a shit about the artist's feelings? If they are so fragile that me doing whatever I want with the art I paid for is somehow going to send them down some suicidal depression hole then that's just because they're some fragile faggot.
Why were you following someone who repeatedly posted ai already? Even of his own commissions? Why are you following him? Or is it just that you weren't actually following him and are just saying this performatively?
just commission an animator retard. Yea and homeless people should just get a house right? It's that easy isn't it? Also let's be real if he did commission an animator there's a decent chance the artist would be pissed off that not only did she lose potential income but actual income.
There were a decent few sane people. This guy's the only one worth including though. Because yea. It's almost as if once again retards online refuse to look at how things actually work and instead play chinese whispers in their echochamber full of autists retards and schizos.
Disrespect is when you like someone's work so much that you wait half a fucking year and pay them over 100usd to continue creating things. That's disrespectful. Disrespect is when you like the work of an artist so much that you want to see it move and come to life.
Same man. Sometimes the shit I write does remind me of a louis rossman video.
How do you think this person would react if I replied to them saying that they rape children? They do btw. Twitter user @lucyyB001 is a child rapist. And they fucked their mother (who was a child at the time). This whole 'ai kills people' is more retarded than the idea that trannies are being killed and genocided by online hate comments and all that shit. On one side you have people that have a fucking schizophrenic delusion that people die when you use a computer, on the other side you have people that are not medically retarded. I wonder why one side seems to be losing the 'war'?
Here's a random screenshot from a completely unknown source giving legal advice. Oh yea and also if you get pulled over by the police if you tell them that you're a sovereign citizen and that you are not driving but instead 'traveling' then they let you go immediately btw. Also very conveniently glossing over the 'caused you financial damage' part there. What are they even going to sue for? What's the damages? Considering moth gained followers the damages are negative if anything.
Yet another retard who makes these fucking claims yet in the same fucking breath calls it a 'filter'. You can't make it up. It's too obvious.
He very much had regard for the fucking work and time because he FUCKING PAID FOR IT how is that a hard concept? Oh yea also you're a troll and an attention seeker that's why I'm giving you attention.
Before I start the main post, he posted this which I will not include the full video of.
The original photo is just the two furries standing next to each other with their arms on the other's shoulder. This guy got grok to animate them hugging and then humping each other. I think the guy on the right is the op but I have no idea who the one on the left is and have no desire to figure it out. It's just a bit fucking rapey to make what looks like a normal photo into softcore porn looking in from the outside.
Anyway. He commissioned a
Here's the image.
Posted by the artist 9th sep.
I go to the commissioner's account, ai stuff in the media tab around but before the 9th. The guy was already publicly using ai before the commission, at least before it was completed. Knowing furries though that means nothing, probably took months to deliver but thought it was worth pointing out.
Anyway. This guy who has paid for this image, I'm no expert on these sorts of contracts but as far as I'm aware this image is now his property, he has paid for labour and received goods in return, as far as I'm aware he is able to do whatever the fuck he wants with it outside of commercial purposes. I think. Could be wrong but this is 'retards online' not 'lawyer explains contracts'.
So he does just that. He takes what he paid for and does what he wants with it.
Honestly. Meh. It's one of those things that I would do just to see how the technology is but it's pretty fucking scuffed. Most notably the lighting. Ai fucking despises snow at the best of times, pretty annoying to try get low light images too. But it's cool to see the technology even if it's a bit shit. If it kept the lighting then it'd be really good.
Also from going through this guy's account he seems to be more on the genuine pro ai right wing chud side even if a bit spergy, rather than an outright troll. He was shitting on palestine retards and getting a decent following from it which kinda based.
The problem is that he decided to tag the artist in the post. She/her probably wouldn't have noticed if he didn't. Mostly because he posted this a month before the artist posted the image.
So you know, obviously enjoys putting commissions through grok to animate them. It's just the same type of pose and shit, not worth null's server space to include it here.
But the artist saw and responded. For reference the ai one got 1.5k likes.
Idk how you use ai over the original image though?
So you remember how this guy had been posting ai stuff and animating commissions for a month before the artist finished this image?
Yea well now she has decided that now he is comfortable using ai? The guy, look, as much as I'll say yea I kinda agree with him, look they're both fucking furries it's like being a spectator to an sen fight. The message he sent is fucking retarded as shit. Why would the moth offer to put something through an animation ai? Like yea, they could have, they could have also like I was going to say offered to suck you off too but they're furries so that's pretty possible, idk could have offered to do your taxes for you too. Also the bitch's tos is like a fucking bible. It's just a neverending card link. Oh, ok, yea. I had another look. 'Turnaround may take up to 3-6 months'. Fucking half a year for a png. I wonder why people might turn to AI instead of waiting fucking 6 months? She says it depends on how much work she has, which is fucking retarded. No that's not how contractors work, you know coming from someone who is an actual contractor. If you cannot finish the work in a decent period of time you do not take the contract. If you have other shit going on you do not take the contract. If you take a commission you should be in a position to start and finish it within a period of time shorter than a fucking council road worker. If you have so much 'work' to do that you cannot finish an image until 6 fucking months later then you just say something like 'commissions closed for now'.
Anyway. Here's the messages.
This first one is from moth, so blue is moth.
This one is from snowcat, so grey is moth.
Once again furries remain unchallenged as the most retarded group online. At least all the other retards are knowledgeable about one thing, sonic fans might be retarded but they'll be able to tell you exactly how many chaos emeralds can fit in sonic's urethra and prove it with a 500 page phd paper they wrote. But not furries, they're just retarded without any useful hyperfixation other than dog cocks and grooming kids. Like what the fuck is this exchange? What am I meant to say? 'hey you could offer to put your work into ai for people' 'no that's scamming' like what the fuck does that mean? How the fuck is 'hey do you want me to ai animate this image for you' a scam? Like hold on, ok, I was just checking, I knew I saw a 6 in moth's bio, I was just checking it was a 26 not a 16 because you could fucking fool me. Yea so offering services that you don't do is a scam, that makes sense, but how the fuck can you say that in reply to someone saying you should offer this service? This exchange is so fucking retarded I do not know what I am even meant to be reading. How can you not understand what the guy is saying? 'offer to put the commission through an ai animator, maybe fix some of the anatomical fuck ups'; how is that difficult to understand? I feel like I'm going crazy just trying to understand what the fuck is a scam here?
Like what does this even mean? What the fuck is the relevance?
I'm just moving on because I do not want to have a stroke.
Oh yea moth also seems to have just left her name out there too. Just incase you were doubting the sheer thinking power of these people.
But everyone's favourite retard came back to comment on this post too.
Because of course the retard continues to be retarded. If you expose an account to an audience that you know will not like their content why would you expect them to get a massive following? If JKR retweeted some tranny and called it a disgusting beast do you think all the evil transphobes that follow her are going to suddenly follow the tranny too? Also just because these people are retarded, 60 followers is decent. The moth post got 50k likes and 2k followers. So 1/25 people followed. I'm rounding but so is she. Snowcat got 1.5k likes and 60 follows. Do you want to take a crack at the like to follow ratio. Because it's a fucking golden one. It's such beauty that can only come from this level of retard. That's right. It's fucking 1 in 25. They got the same like to follow ratio. Absolute fucking kino.
Also it's not even true? She just can't fucking read?
Here's snowcat's response to the 'drama', can you see the number '60' anywhere in this post?
He actually got a ratio of 1:18.5, or 25% better than moth did lol. What a fucking brag. Next they'll be saying black people commit less crimes because they only commit 40% of them or whatever it is.
As for his actual post, idk. Maybe this is a heccin racebait and I have been poeslawed into a snafu. But like, doesn't seem like it at least. It does just seem like something he wanted to do which is fair enough. But at the same time they are furries so autism and alexithymia cannot be ruled out.
But he's right. It did produce a lot of people to laugh at
And that's where I come in.
Here's him saying something that I already said.
Which yea, I agree with. He paid for it why shouldn't he do whatever the fuck he wants with it? Type of retards to support ubisoft and that type of modern gaming industry faggots.
But here's some of the replies to his.
I mean for one there's nothing legally binding about a tos, you do know that right? It's a terms of service, the service has been completed, there's no more terms because you are no longer providing me a service. Fairly sure at least. But even if I'm wrong on that then these sorts of contracts are still not fully legally binding anyway. You can sign a contract and break the terms and it not be a legal issue because the terms were retarded. But here's the specific part about the carrd regarding ai.
I mean, yea it does kinda cover it. I mean does animating an image count as generating something? I guess it's generating an animation? I guess. Either way I wouldn't give a shit. Too lazy to finish an image within 6 months so you know.
Of course this reply got a lot of the typical speds.
Yea, 'quite literally' indeed.
It IS the same.
You know, for no sorry, I keep fucking every time. Every fucking post I do the same shit where I go to say something about common sense or being able to think and completely forget the type of person we're talking about. But isn't it crazy how even years later these people are still too fucking retarded to actually understand how ai works? Imagine being so deadset on being against something you don't even understand the basics of how it works. Next you'll be telling me nuclear fuel can do a Hiroshima. You know what is giving the AI training material? Fucking uploading it to the internet, especially twitter, you know just like moth did herself? That's getting it in to the training data, uploading it to grok just isn't as far as I'm aware.
He also doesn't own the artist's email account either, commissioning her didn't transfer ownership of her smart fridge account.
Mostly because fucking moth herself explicitly says that she transfers personal usage rights to the commissioner in her fucking tos that everyone likes to point at. She directly says 'Your commission is for personal use only' ie you own the rights to the image other than commercial rights. Him putting the image into ai is personal use. And why would copyright mean anything anyway? It's just completely irrelevant. Copyright has nothing to do with the original fucking comment? 'animating an image with ai is different from training an ai on the image' 'YEA WELL YOU DONT OWN THE COPYRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' like what the fuck does this have to do with anything?
Actually no, he can do whatever he wants. That's what personal usage rights are. She has explicitly given him the permission to do whatever he fucking wants with the image outside of commercial purposes. And once again; is posting an ai animation in any way a commercial act? Did he gain money from that post? And why would communicating mean anything? It's a fucking furry online, nothing they say will mean anything, everyone pretends to know what they're talking about and most have no fucking clue and it's just another game of chinese whispers with autists retards and schizos. I mean does anyone really want to communicate with 'just your average degenerate @ justyourdegen69'?
Just wonder where does it clearly say not to use the art in ai video?
Idk. I guess I can't read?
Another person that thinks i2i or I guess i2v is the same as training data. But man, he fucked the artist over so hard. Unlike moth herself, she didn't fuck over herself when she uploaded her shit to a website that explicitly states that any images uploaded to it can be used for ai training purposes? Or do we only care about reading the tos when it's your favourite retard?
This is why I say he does kinda come across as just a shit stirrer.
I mean he's clearly stirring shit and being a cunt to annoy people. But it's out of a place of sincerity rather than doing it just for the sake of fucking with people.
Anyway in reply to this obviously shit stirring reply it of course had a load of replies.
Well, they said it themselves, they used the word 'us' and skilled artist. Let's have a look shall we
Yep. More boring generic furry shit that I've seen literal children create. Also once again I personally know several artists that like ai shit. They don't participate in ai stuff because they're fucking artists and they have an art account? Have you ever considered that normal people don't just post everything to one single account? No. The answer is no. But hey I would love to see how that lawsuit would hold up, you know considering that the tos is contradictory and that moth gave explicit permission to do whatever the fuck you want with the image. I'm putting this here retroactively because it doesn't fit anywhere else but why would anyone give a shit anyway, even if thousands of artists did blacklist this guy it's the fucking furry community, he could easily make an alt, his fursona is a fucking snow leopard it's hardly unique. And there's millions of the same dogshit quality furry artists too, there's an endless amount of them so who gives a shit if some block you?
Oh no. No more art from the cat spirit vtuber. How will anyone ever survive? THE 478 FOLLOWER ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How could you live with yourself knowing that a literal fucking who won't take your money? I can't even find any examples of their fucking art anyway. The entire account is retarded shit tranny lover faggotry. I did find this one which I think is beautifully ironic.
Honestly I agree. Stop using the word troon. It's fucking retarded american shit. No american slur hits hard. Troon sounds like a fucking kids tv channel. No american slur could ever come close to tranny or nigger.
Also they posted this which fucking hell.
You called someone a troon yea well I WAS RAPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But no you are all sex pests, you don't deserve to be raped mostly because I'd feel bad if the rapist caught something. Truly the average tranny post. Start off with a guilt trip and the fake withdrawal of commerce and then end it with talking about how you were raped. I don't even know what that's meant to mean. Someone's dad beat me up, I'll assume you were also a teenager at the time though considering tranny shit it would be unsurprising if that was wrong, and the guy beat you up because he thought you were a man pretending to be a woman that looks like a man? Have you considered that maybe it was just an overprotective dad who saw his young daughter with a male? Why the fuck is any tranny shit in there? Unless it's an ftm? Oh yea. It said pregnancy and raped so yea must be a woman. But like, ok, he saw you and correctly thought you were a disgusting sin against God and somehow that means he thinks you're a tranny instead of a pooner? I don't fucking get it. I think this is a them thing right? I mean it could be me but like I don't think it is.
Oh no. My wepwatwon as a cwommissonwer. If you have a reputation as being a retard willing to spend a week's income on a mid image of some furry then your reputation is already of someone who belongs in an asylum. Need to keep up my reputation in the piss kink community, can't let the shit eaters see me slipping you feel?
Here's a furry calling another's brain rotted without a single shred of irony. Your sexuality revolves around fucking animals my guy you are in no place to talk.
I thought furries were pro lgbtqghjakgijr? Why are they being homophobic? I thought sucking cock was valid and good?
Yea they took so much of their precious time. Or well, they took their precious time you should say considering once again fucking 3-6 months.
And how the fuck can you turn around and tell someone that paid over 100usd and waited months for something that they don't care about the work? They fucking paid for it you dumb retard. The only reason it exists in the first place is because they cared enough to fucking pay it into existence.
Another bait comment.
Also just retarded, yea bro the fandom full of animal and child rapists that's full of groomers and epi, but no it's the people paying for art and doing what they want with it that's the problem? This one somehow managed to create the most fucking retarded responses I have maybe ever seen in writing in this thread holy fuck.
Ok. Ai doesn't do anything new, just the same but faster. And that's a bad thing. Anyway horses do the same thing as humans but faster and cars do the same thing as horses but faster and that's why those things are good? How the fuck do they manage to be so self contradictory? Other than the fact that none of them interact with their thoughts enough to realise they're being self contradictory.
I have nothing to say other than just HAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH fucking cars don't pollute? Jesus fucking christ. So retarded that the idea of ai magically consuming water sounds logical.
Yea and I think wanking over images of animals is morally reprehensible too. So when are you stopping that?
This is just like this has to be fucking bait. This has to be someone trolling. There's no way even a furry could be retarded enough to go 'ai is fucking evil and hitler and its killing the environment i can prove it with this fucking ai generated response'. Like holy fucking shit these people. Especially when the ai is literally hallucinating shit. Like they'll go on about how ai is bad because it's always wrong and extra fingers and all that and then this fucking sped used ai and is taking it at fucking face value without thinking holy shit. I don't even think they should be beaten to death with a rock for the good of the genepool this one's so retarded it should be kept in a zoo to be laughed at. Or no, not a zoo, probably get too horny over it's neighbours.
Inside of you there are two wolves
One says that cars made horses unemployed (fucking lol)
The other says that horses were not made unemployed.
Which way western man? The answer is probably down, specifically on the horse.
'cars didnt ruin a caluable resource'???????????????? Nigger have you ever heard of fucking petrol before? Do you know what fossil fuels are? Do you know like how the fucking world works? Do you see what I mean? 'cars dont pollute' 'cars dont use valuable resources' you can see why I said this is the most retarded post I have ever written.
Yea. Those selfish cunts. Nothing screams selfish like fucking paying someone for their work. Nothing screams selfish like paying someone's fucking wages. That's real selfish. Like how retarded are these people holy fucking shit? There's something wrong with the water at furcons, other than roofies and cum that is. Are they making the suits out of asbestos and paracetamol or some shit? These are not human not even retarded humans. Even an actual downie would be able to understand that paying someone for their work makes you kinda not selfish.
Mr nuke israel chiming in to say that ai is not a technology. Thank you mr nuke israel. Lefties are so retarded that I have no idea if this is bait because I have seen people genuinely say this. But hey maybe he's right, lefties do love rewriting the definitions of words to fit their retarded ideals anyway, maybe ai isn't a technology, afterall that fucking bruce jenner creature isn't a man, this isn't that big of a stretch.
And here's the retard bringing up the luddites as a good thing. Does he realise that the luddites weren't actually anti technology? No. Of course not. He doesn't understand anything about them because learning history is harder than making shit up. The luddites specifically opposed the automated loom, not because it would kill children but because it put them out of a job they felt entitled to. They had no qualms about any other type of technology because all of those things benefited them. They didn't care if a blacksmith was put out of work from the invention of the steam hammer because they only cared that they could buy things cheaper, aside from clothing, something that they made to sell. The luddites preferred to leave children out in the cold to freeze to death because it meant they got paid more. Also no one has died as a direct result of ai, not even the poor and unprotected. Not even the retards that killed themselves, kinda in the phrase there, tells you exactly who did it.
But holy fuck. Anti ai retards are retarded enough but furries are a different breed of retarded. Kinda glad tbh, medically not allowed to drink for a while but it doesn't matter, I already feel fucking drunk just trying to comprehend what the fuck these retards are on about.
Another fucking vtumour coming in to drop some #FAXNDLOGIC bombs.
Because you committed a CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wasn't going to include the vtumour post until I saw this post because fucking hell I hate these absolute retards. Oh did someone hurt your wikkle feefees? Who the fuck gives a shit? I hate this autistic shit where every single fucking thing online must never offend anyone at all. It is the most harmful social movement that there is, worse than trannies and infinite jeets and all those things because it underlines all of those. Stop fucking catering your entire life around the idea that maybe you might offend someone. Some people deserve to be offended. Who gives a shit if some generic fugfag is offended?
Another bait comment.
But no. I don't remember that? Mostly because I have this thing called a job and a life and go to this thing called 'the outside' instead of listening to your echochamber bullshit. Like no you don't get to just brand everything as a bad thing and just try to gaslight anyone who questions it into thinking that actually no they do agree with you.
Well yea, he will. But once again he fucking paid for the image, he literally fucking paid the artist you retard. And yes. Creativity and skill is not universal. Not everyone is creative or skilled. That's why artists can charge for experience because not everyone has their skills. That's pretty much the sole reason you commission an artist, their skill and creativity.
Yes I would. Nuclear weapons are good. The nuke stopped the single bloodiest conflict of basically all of humanity in a day. Yep it's an incredibly violent and reading the accounts from Japan are some of the worst things you could ever read. But that's war. That's literally just how war works.
Because all of the other retards in this post understand ai so much better right? The only people that spew bullshit about how ai works comes from these retards.
'i can personally see the use in ai and use it but i refuse to even consider that someone else might find use or enjoyment in any other form of ai'
Spoken like a true retard.
Stealing is when you fucking pay for something. Apparently.
Ok so I'm a bad person for liking ai because it damages the ecosystem right ok, I can follow that. Yet if I say that all of india should be nuked and just the entire fucking third world should be completely destroyed people call me a bad person? India is quite literally the worst thing for the environment to ever exist. But no, not allowed to say total fucking jeet death now.
Please someone fucking explain to me, how the fuck is FUCKING PAYING FOR AN IMAGE in any fucking way 'stealing' are these people fucking retarded??? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and im gonig fucking inasnae from these retards. No it didn't fucking go into a data base because it's a fucking i2v not training data you retard. And he fucking did support an artist he fucking paid for the fucking image how the fuck is this in any fucking way not supporting an actual artist he fucking paid for the image please dear fucking god what it wrong with these retards?
Someone said the obvious.
Idk what the fuck he's on about. It trains off of select pixels once, why the fuck would it need the same thing over and over? But like yes it does fucking matter you retard. You can't call someone an evil child killer for doing something when the artist is doing the exact same thing. That is incredibly relevant you retard.
Damn that would be a hard hitting critique if the fucking artist made animations at all. Also no. It's only indians stealing your job. And I thought all the ai was really energy intensive and used so much water? Last I checked that shit wasn't free unless you're a fucking romanian.
I know this retard isn't the one that made the comment the guy isn't replying to but fucking hell. How could you not respond to an adventure time tranny ukraine enby?
I love how they go 'oh you dont know how ai works' and then instantly turn around and show that they are the fucking ones that dont know how ai works. Isn't that crazy?
This is only a proper analogy if the person in the cinema was the owner of the movie studio because he fucking paid for it?????????? How are these people so retarded that they just can't fucking understand that this guy literally paid for the image? Just more retarded false equivalences. As always.
No personal usage rights does actually do that. And once again just fucking hallucinating shit? Isn't it crazy that they just make shit up constantly? What a surprise.
I'm not even screenshotting all of the people being retarded about how ai works but holy fuck there is so many of them. What the fuck does using the entire image to generate mean? He fucking asked for it to be animated? Did you think it was just going to take a random selection from the image and just animate that? These people are fucking baffling.
No it fucking doesn't. And why MUST he commission someone to animate it for him? Why are all animators entitled to his money? He wasn't looking for an animator and then decided to go to ai instead, he just did something for fun. No animator lost money because they were never going to get it. Fucking retards on nintendos anti piracy propaganda.
No they fucking don't you absolute retard. Why are half of the retards vtubers? I wonder if there's a causation there? Oh yea and also the artist's style is incredibly generic and would blend in with every other furfag online.
Oh no, the poor community norms. In a community where the norm is grooming children and being gooners. Oh no. The sacred community of the furries, how will we ever cope if their community norms are violated. I'm so upset about that.
When I buy something from someone I get this thing called 'ownership' which explicitly gives me permission to do whatever the fuck I want with it. If I go to a tailor and buy some handmade dress from them there is nothing stopping me from literally shitting myself in it for sexual pleasure. I can do whatever I want because it is my property. That's part of what property means, a company cannot force me to do or not do something with my property after I have purchased it. That is a violation of my consumer rights.
Which one is the new and which one is the old lol? And I don't understand how people just don't get it either. It is just the fucking result because this guy is not a fucking artist he paid for the image. The only thing this guy gives a shit about is the result because that is the only thing he paid for. He does not give a shit about your personal growth and happiness because he didn't pay for them. You draw what I want and I pay you for it, other than that you fuck off. Not everyone wants to be an artist, how is that hard to understand? Some people just want to see cool shit.
There is no such thing as a 'right to use something in ai'. That's not a thing. There are personal usage rights and commercial rights. That's it. And once again you fucking vtumour he was doing something for fucking personal use? How do these retards not understand that it was personal use?
This person kinda based though.
Same for this one.
And the next one.
Truly a genius. Is this a shitpost? Fuck knows? I've seen countless other retards saying this so idk. This is just more retardation from the most retarded group recently. But surely this person couldn't possibly get any more retarded right?
Wrong. Of course this fucking retard can get worse. Of course they can. Which means they can get even worse.
Ok. Political violence is cool? Ok. I am going to kill you then and you cannot stop me or complain.
Here's an artist who also uses grok to animate their stuff. I don't like it that much but it's still interesting.
What's your favourite train?
Crazy how often they will just outright call for violence. Surely leftist retards would never do something like that right?
HE FUCKING PAID FOR THE WORK AND EMOTION YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER???????????????????????????????????????
Erhhmmmmmmmmm akshually you should just pay thousands for a custom animation. It's unappealing to look at? Ok and I'd say the same thing about the original image but it doesn't fucking matter because it's his account and the only person that gives a shit is the guy who commissioned and paid for it. Furries and liberals will tell you that you can post whatever you want and you're valid and no one should ever criticise what you post and you should never be mean to anyone online, been several in this post, think about how the artist feels poor little artist. But then turn around and will do shit like this? It's his fucking account. You do not get to choose what this guy does and does not post on his account because it is his fucking account you retard. I feel that the word retard has lost meaning, I've said it so fucking much I need the like there's like gross -> tranny (average mean word for them) then you go one up to 'male' which is the worst thing you can say. I need a one up for 'retard' at this point. Oh. Yea. I forgot. There is one.
AMERICAN
Urrrhhhhmmmmmmmmm so yea it says here in the tos of this artist that it says this and that. No of course I didn't read the tos or any information on how ai works, why do you ask? Cares about the details for the artist but can't be fucked to care enough about the thing he hates to even understand how it works. Because anti ai retards really are the most inconsistent people going.
Actually it was his art. He can butcher it if he wants. And because it's interesting you retard? Sorry not everyone is so deep in your echochambers they can't understand the concept of enjoying things.
You know how everyone says ai will kill all artists like literally murder them. I've just become an even bigger lover of ai holy shit. You're telling me I get unlimited images of the characters I love AND get to literally genocide furries? Damn what a fucking deal.
I just despise this mindset so fucking much. Give me one reason to give a shit about the artist's feelings? If they are so fragile that me doing whatever I want with the art I paid for is somehow going to send them down some suicidal depression hole then that's just because they're some fragile faggot.
Why were you following someone who repeatedly posted ai already? Even of his own commissions? Why are you following him? Or is it just that you weren't actually following him and are just saying this performatively?
just commission an animator retard. Yea and homeless people should just get a house right? It's that easy isn't it? Also let's be real if he did commission an animator there's a decent chance the artist would be pissed off that not only did she lose potential income but actual income.
There were a decent few sane people. This guy's the only one worth including though. Because yea. It's almost as if once again retards online refuse to look at how things actually work and instead play chinese whispers in their echochamber full of autists retards and schizos.
Disrespect is when you like someone's work so much that you wait half a fucking year and pay them over 100usd to continue creating things. That's disrespectful. Disrespect is when you like the work of an artist so much that you want to see it move and come to life.
Same man. Sometimes the shit I write does remind me of a louis rossman video.
How do you think this person would react if I replied to them saying that they rape children? They do btw. Twitter user @lucyyB001 is a child rapist. And they fucked their mother (who was a child at the time). This whole 'ai kills people' is more retarded than the idea that trannies are being killed and genocided by online hate comments and all that shit. On one side you have people that have a fucking schizophrenic delusion that people die when you use a computer, on the other side you have people that are not medically retarded. I wonder why one side seems to be losing the 'war'?
Here's a random screenshot from a completely unknown source giving legal advice. Oh yea and also if you get pulled over by the police if you tell them that you're a sovereign citizen and that you are not driving but instead 'traveling' then they let you go immediately btw. Also very conveniently glossing over the 'caused you financial damage' part there. What are they even going to sue for? What's the damages? Considering moth gained followers the damages are negative if anything.
Yet another retard who makes these fucking claims yet in the same fucking breath calls it a 'filter'. You can't make it up. It's too obvious.
He very much had regard for the fucking work and time because he FUCKING PAID FOR IT how is that a hard concept? Oh yea also you're a troll and an attention seeker that's why I'm giving you attention.
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Gotta say, this really is very amusing. But also sad. These people could use their brain to think a bit more about their actions. I'm not even using hyperbole here - it does seem like their frontal lobe has been squashed or they are genuinely being dipshits online.
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If you are retarded enough to fall into this echochamber then you were never going to be anything else. Certain online places do 100% cultivate these retarded non thinking autistic brains but if you're already this fucked then just throw them in the same labour camps that we do for indians whatever dogshit £2 an hour slave job they get we should replace with these retards instead.
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Ironically enough, they serve as nothing but the aptly-named "niggercattle", just automatons that live life that, from an ignorant point of view, you could say it is almost machine-like. I say ignorant because I don't know their story, they can maybe have deeper thoughts, but we don't have enough to know.
Regardless, if we had an AI overseer, he would relegate such people to labour camps to see if they would become more "productive members" instead of complaining too much about the lives they lead.
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The reasonin goes this way:
If I hand-animated a commission I did, then I animated the picture myself.
If I fed a commission I did through an AI, then I did not animate the picture myself, but rather have a computer do that stuff automatically using work that i stolen off others' art.
Since I did not animate the picture myself using my own skill, then claiming that I animated the commissions would be a lie.
Since I would be lying about animating the commissions myself, then selling commissions where I would have an AI animate the commissions I do would be a scam, since I would be profiting off work that I did not do myself.
Also, yes; AI video is AI generation, since you would be generating the animation.
You would be selfish because you are not paying an imator instead of using a generator.
Ravve_6 was clearly saying that cars do not pollute as much.
I still find that very weird, given how car exhaust smoke was one of the biggest pollutants of the 90s.
Unfortunately, RoanokeCrow is being serious.
Ironically, BeuwenDragon was banned of FA because he was that right-wing.
I actually agree with you o nuclear weapons. World War 2 aside, I find weird abou the hatred of nuclear and chemical weapons pecifically when a lot of other weapons get a pass. Nuclear weapons are under the 2nd Amendment.
If I hand-animated a commission I did, then I animated the picture myself.
If I fed a commission I did through an AI, then I did not animate the picture myself, but rather have a computer do that stuff automatically using work that i stolen off others' art.
Since I did not animate the picture myself using my own skill, then claiming that I animated the commissions would be a lie.
Since I would be lying about animating the commissions myself, then selling commissions where I would have an AI animate the commissions I do would be a scam, since I would be profiting off work that I did not do myself.
Also, yes; AI video is AI generation, since you would be generating the animation.
You would be selfish because you are not paying an imator instead of using a generator.
Ravve_6 was clearly saying that cars do not pollute as much.
I still find that very weird, given how car exhaust smoke was one of the biggest pollutants of the 90s.
Unfortunately, RoanokeCrow is being serious.
Ironically, BeuwenDragon was banned of FA because he was that right-wing.
I actually agree with you o nuclear weapons. World War 2 aside, I find weird abou the hatred of nuclear and chemical weapons pecifically when a lot of other weapons get a pass. Nuclear weapons are under the 2nd Amendment.
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And in the continued downfall of civitai, they have recently just banned nsfw generation in all but name.
I wish nothing but fucking death on bankers. Real glad pixai is really good and high quality and not shit
I wish nothing but fucking death on bankers. Real glad pixai is really good and high quality and not shit
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Good times never last. Before you know it, your favourite goon fuel website goes to shit. Figured out it couldn't last with such convenient don't-even-have-to-pay approach to generation.
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Imagine relying on a service to make your NSFW content instead of running it at home or on an opaque system like RunPod.And in the continued downfall of civitai, they have recently just banned nsfw generation in all but name.
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I wish nothing but fucking death on bankers. Real glad pixai is really good and high quality and not shit
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In one of the local-hosted LLM communities a few months back someone busted in and said 'why are you guys doing this, it's just always going to be inferior to the zillion-parameter models running on insane hardware the big guys are offering'. The answer of course is: Then you can run a model that isn't sanitized. Even if you don't want porn or explosives formulae that's useful.
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Yea. Imagine living in a world where the gpu market is anything other than an absolute fucking joke.
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Problem is, everyone relies on Civitai as a service for discoverability to find models and LoRAs that can make that content.
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Yea, the celebpocalypse was a bad day in the AI world. If they ban hosting NSFW LoRA/Checkpoints then that would be the end of them.
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At the moment at least they're not touching that side of things. Considering they're still letting you make nsfw shit I'd assume that's not going anywhere. Hopefully. It's the only actually good and comprehensive lora catalogue. For now at least which is fucking meaningless when you talk about banks and all that bullshit.
It does seem that they changed the lora training though, it used to be yellow but now it's saying you can do it with blue. 500 too, ie once every other day if you want to shit out a lora to use somewhere else.
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Don't worry the tiny toons lola bunny is their most popular Lora.
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This has to be the most idiotic post I've seen in a long time, Jesus fucking Christ.
I knew anti-AI dudes were usually just a bunch of retards but this is too much. How fucked in your head you have to be to come up with something like this?
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Sorry I coudn't archive it. Maybe some anon here can make that for me
I knew anti-AI dudes were usually just a bunch of retards but this is too much. How fucked in your head you have to be to come up with something like this?
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Sorry I coudn't archive it. Maybe some anon here can make that for me
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