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Needs more Nick Land. If your ideas on AI aren't fueled by schizophrenia, coke, and Jewish number codes I don't want to hear it.
I'm trying to remember his new twitter handle, if anyone has it.

Still can't remember it, but found this old classic.
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Hundreds of OpenAI employees threaten to resign and join Microsoft​

The situation at OpenAI is getting even more dicey.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/20...oyees-resignation-letter-microsoft-sam-altman
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Most of the staff at OpenAI have threatened to resign from the company and join Microsoft, which has hired ousted OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and former OpenAI co-founder Greg Brockman to lead a new “advanced AI research team.” In a letter to OpenAI’s board that was reported on this morning by Wired and journalist Kara Swisher, more than 500 current OpenAI staffers say that “Microsoft has assured us that there are positions for all OpenAI employees at this new subsidiary should we choose to join.”

The letter says the OpenAI employees will leave if the board does not reinstate Altman and Brockman and then resign. But seeing as the board has already made its choice, deciding to remain in place and naming a new CEO, while Altman and Brockman head to Microsoft, it seems that Microsoft may have just found Altman’s first several hundred employees, assuming they’re correct about the company’s promise to hire them all.

OpenAI employees signing the letter accuse the company’s board of jeopardizing their work and having “undermined our mission and company.” They also reject the idea that OpenAI was pushing ahead too quickly without concern for safety. “Our work on AI safety and governance shapes global norms,” they write.

Swisher reports that there are currently 700 employees at OpenAI and that more signatures are still being added to the letter. The letter appears to have been written before the events of last night, suggesting it has been circulating since closer to Altman’s firing. It also means that it may be too late for OpenAI’s board to act on the memo’s demands, if they even wished to do so.

OpenAI chief scientist Ilya Sutskever, who reportedly led the push to remove Altman, noted on X (formerly Twitter) that he had some regrets about the weekend of chaos inside OpenAI. “I deeply regret my participation in the board’s actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI,” said Sutskever. “I love everything we’ve built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company.” Bizarrely, Sutskever’s name is on the list of resignations, too.

Microsoft has now created a special “advanced AI research team” to house a number of former OpenAI employees, with Altman offered a CEO title to lead the division. It’s an unusual move for Microsoft outside of acquisitions, as the company typically only uses the CEO title for the leaders of big divisions like Microsoft Gaming or acquired companies like LinkedIn and GitHub. OpenAI employees have made it clear that Microsoft is treating this like a big acquisition, assuring existing employees that there are open roles to join Altman and his team at Microsoft.

Altman’s hiring came just hours after negotiations with OpenAI’s board failed to bring him back as OpenAI CEO over the weekend. Instead, former Twitch CEO and co-founder Emmett Shear has been named interim CEO. He will take over from Mira Murati, who was named interim OpenAI CEO following Altman’s shock firing on Friday. Murati is at the top of the list of OpenAI employees threatening to now join Microsoft.

Microsoft’s new advanced AI research team, led by Altman and Brockman, comes just a week after Microsoft announced it has built its own custom AI chip that can be used to train large language models and potentially avoid a costly reliance on Nvidia. Altman had been reportedly pitching a separate startup to build custom, Nvidia-rivaling AI tensor processing unit (TPU) chips to investors recently, according to The New York Times.

Update November 20th, 12:15PM ET: The number of signatories had risen to 650 by shortly after 11AM ET, according to a post from OpenAI safety leader Lilian Weng. Weng indicated there were a total of 770 employees and said that “more will come” in terms of signatures.
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I have a couple of suggestions you may find useful in remaking the OP.

1) First off, start with all the companies and their products, OpenAi and GTP, Bard from Google, Bing Chat from Microsoft, Anthropic, Deep mind etc... and make a brief history of each.
2) Name key players, Sam Altman, Ilya Sutskever, Andrej Karpathy, etc as many as you feel relevant in this "SEKTUR" important people, or just twitter journos. A.I. explained is a good channel for info.
3) Give a brief history of AI.
4) Now dive deep into the drama when we know most of the characters, companies, LLM models, and orbiters.

Good Luck OP, I am interested in this community drama, so I hope this works well.
 
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@NoReturn
I have a couple of suggestions you may find useful in remaking the OP.

1) First off, start with all the companies and their products, OpenAi and GTP, Bard from Google, Bing Chat from Microsoft, Anthropic, Deep mind etc... and make a brief history of each.
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Done, updated the title, too.
Please let me know what to flesh out and how. I'm not an expert, most of what I'm writing I learned here or 4chan, so I'm probably missing a lot.

Justtocheck said:
2) Name key players, Sam Altman, Ilya Sutskever, Andrej Karpathy, etc as many as you feel relevant in this "SEKTUR" important people, or just twitter journos. A.I. explained is a good channel for info.
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Suggestions plx

Justtocheck said:
3) Give a brief history of AI.
4) Now dive deep into the drama when we know most of the characters, companies, LLM models, and orbiters.

Good Luck OP, I am interested in this community drama, so I hope this works well.
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Halp plz
 
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Honestly if someone here had enough time on their hands, it wouldn't be that hard to train a KF AI. Take a 7B/13B/33B LLaMA2 model (depending on resources), make a bot to scrape and convert a bunch of threads into the right format, rent some GPUs online and train it, bam, Tay / that one 4Chan AI is back but better. That would be a pretty fun addition to this thread.
 
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imaginary friend said:
Honestly if someone here had enough time on their hands, it wouldn't be that hard to train a KF AI. Take a 7B/13B/33B LLaMA2 model (depending on resources), make a bot to scrape and convert a bunch of threads into the right format, rent some GPUs online and train it, bam, Tay / that one 4Chan AI is back but better. That would be a pretty fun addition to this thread.
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i trained a llama lora on the sharty once, was pretty funny
 
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NoReturn said:
Done, updated the title, too.
Please let me know what to flesh out and how. I'm not an expert, most of what I'm writing I learned here or 4chan, so I'm probably missing a lot.
Suggestions plx
Halp plz
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I'll give you some pointers, but my nigga, I cannot do the investigative work for you. You are the OP. Especially when the information is out there and freely available. (lmao, you could even ask an AI for this.) I'd also recommend you take your time and watch https://www.youtube.com/@aiexplained-official/videos He's a gay Brit*sh computer scientist that breaks down the facts pretty well. Take your time to process it.

However, for now, the most important thing the OP lacks is formatting. The prettier your OP is, the more people think this is a serious OP.
First in the thread, I suggest you put a thumbnail of a picture and below a quote from someone relevant (funny or interesting) to catch someone's attention. Books do the same.

Then, If you are going to add information through video clips, make sure to use the function spoiler to not ruin the general formatting, so we don't see a chunk of video and then words in different fonts. It makes it very unreadable.

And I would also recommend not to put at the start where you think the thread will be. Mods will decide that. And keep the parts separate, like chapters in a book, while making readable headline and noticeable fonts. So Chapter 1) Brief history of AI, 2)Current main players, etc...

Make sure not to be a lazy nigger with the formatting. If you make it pretty and readable, people will help with videos and info. If this is your first time formatting an OP, watch other OPs of quality. It's a learned skill, and if you put effort into it, you will be good at it.

Best of luck!
 
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imaginary friend said:
Honestly if someone here had enough time on their hands, it wouldn't be that hard to train a KF AI. Take a 7B/13B/33B LLaMA2 model (depending on resources), make a bot to scrape and convert a bunch of threads into the right format, rent some GPUs online and train it, bam, Tay / that one 4Chan AI is back but better. That would be a pretty fun addition to this thread.
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9gfuwegw9j9 said:
i trained a llama lora on the sharty once, was pretty funny
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You have a holy mission from god, please bring our child into this world.

Justtocheck said:
I'll give you some pointers, but my nigga, I cannot do the investigative work for you. You are the OP. Especially when the information is out there and freely available.
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Collaboration, REEEEEEEEEE
Real talk, I'm not sure how much to include in the OP. The thread I was looking at as inspiration is shorter than this OP is now, but the last people OP I did was way longer.

Justtocheck said:
However, for now, the most important thing the OP lacks is formatting. The prettier your OP is, the more people think this is a serious OP.
First in the thread, I suggest you put a thumbnail of a picture and below a quote from someone relevant (funny or interesting) to catch someone's attention. Books do the same.
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Must... find... funny...

Justtocheck said:
Then, If you are going to add information through video clips, make sure to use the function spoiler to not ruin the general formatting, so we don't see a chunk of video and then words in different fonts. It makes it very unreadable.
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Things into spooilers

Justtocheck said:
And I would also recommend not to put at the start where you think the thread will be. Mods will decide that. And keep the parts separate, like chapters in a book, while making readable headline and noticeable fonts. So Chapter 1) Brief history of AI, 2)Current main players, etc...
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I clean, I clean

Lieutenant Rasczak said:
The same Emmett Shear who was completely incompetent while at twitch? Since that's the case, OpenAI is 100% fucked.
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The very same!
 
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I wonder if social media existed back when personal home computers was happening (paradox but bear with me) we'd have lolhappenings from Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, big tech and small tech people. I wonder how much nerd programming & software develeopment drama was lost over time?
 
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Now I gotta update the OP again:
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/22/tech/openai-altman-returns-hnk-intl/index.html
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/2023112...ech/openai-altman-returns-hnk-intl/index.html

Sam Altman returns to OpenAI in a bizarre reversal of fortunes​

Sam Altman has agreed to return to lead OpenAI, the company said in a Wednesday post on X, just days after his surprise ouster as chief executive and an employee backlash that threatened to undermine what has been the leading company in the fledgling artificial intelligence industry.

By Clare Duffy, David Goldman
Nov 22, 2023 03:58 PM

New York CNN —

Sam Altman has agreed to return to lead OpenAI, the company said in a Tuesday post on X, just days after his surprise ouster as chief executive sparked an employee revolt that threatened to undermine what has been the leading company in the fledgling artificial intelligence industry.

“We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board,” the company said, adding that the board will be chaired by Bret Taylor, a former co-CEO of Salesforce. Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers will also join the board, alongside existing director, Quora CEO Adam D’Angelo.

“We are collaborating to figure out the details,” it said.

In his own post on X, formerly Twitter, Altman wrote that he is “looking forward” to returning to OpenAI and building on the firm’s “strong partnership” with Microsoft, which is the ChatGPT maker’s biggest financial backer.

The announcement appears to bring to an end days of chaos for the AI industry that included negotiations over who should lead OpenAI and how the firm should be run, as well as broader discussions about just how fast the arms race to develop AI technology should be moving.

The details of Altman’s firing and re-hiring remain murky. In its announcement Friday, OpenAI claimed that Altman had been insufficiently “candid” with the board.

That ambiguous language sent the rumor mill flying. But a key factor in Altman’s ouster was the presence of tensions between Altman, who favored pushing AI development more aggressively, and members of the original OpenAI board, who wanted to move more cautiously, according to CNN contributor Kara Swisher, who spoke to sources knowledgeable about the crisis.

As of Monday morning, Nadella had announced that Altman, along with fellow OpenAI co-founder Greg Brockman, would be joining Microsoft to lead a new AI research division. OpenAI said it had hired former Twitch chief Emmett Shear as interim CEO.

But then hundreds of OpenAI employees, nearly the company’s entire staff, threatened to leave, potentially for Microsoft, if the company’s board didn’t resign and reinstate Altman as CEO.

It’s unclear how Shear will be affected by Altman’s return. Posting on X, Shear wrote: “I am deeply pleased by this result, after (some) 72 very intense hours of work … I’m glad to have been a part of the solution.”

Brockman is also returning to OpenAI, according to his post on X.

Ultimately, Microsoft and Altman appear to be the big winners from the dust-up: Altman will continue leading the firm he helped to found, now with a board that is, in theory, more supportive of his vision.

And Microsoft has wrested more control over the company it invested billions in to help bolster its ambitions in developing AI, which many in Silicon Valley think will be the most important wave of technological advancement in the coming decades.

“We are encouraged by the changes to the OpenAI board,” Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said on X. “We believe this is a first essential step on a path to more stable, well-informed, and effective governance.”

Altman’s vision to quickly roll out and commercialize AI tools also appears to have won out.

Publicly, Altman has long cautioned about risks posed by AI, and he has pledged to lawmakers and customers that he would move OpenAI forward responsibly.

“Is [AI] gonna be like the printing press that diffused knowledge, power and learning widely across the landscape that empowered ordinary, everyday individuals that led to greater flourishing, that led above all to greater liberty?” he said in a May Senate subcommittee hearing pressing for regulation. “Or is it gonna be more like the atom bomb — huge technological breakthrough, but the consequences (severe, terrible) continue to haunt us to this day?”

But inside the company, Altman had been pushing to bring products to market more quickly and to sell them for a profit.

Altman announced a few weeks ago at OpenAI’s first-ever developer day that the company would make tools available so anyone could create their own version of ChatGPT. OpenAI has also worked with Microsoft to roll out ChatGPT-like technology across Microsoft’s products.

OpenAI and iPhone designer Jony Ive had also reportedly been in talks to raise $1 billion from Japanese conglomerate SoftBank for an AI device to replace the smartphone.

— CNN’s Juliana Liu and Diksha Madhok contributed reporting.
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