AI generated art will be bad for cultural cohesion.

[mindlessobserver]

This is a thought I have been having lately as I have seen the proliferation of AI generated art. Everything from cheap little film clips, to full own movie scripts, comics, and paintings. Now, despite what the doomsayers are claiming, the AI is not ACTUALLY doing any of this from whole cloth. There is still a very human brain working in the background giving instructions and tweaking the inputs to get what the Human Brain wants. The AI is simply a very, VERY powerful tool. Like a magic paintbrush that allows anyone to paint like a master. Or Satan's tooth from Jack Blacks "Pick of Destiny".

So no, I don't think AI "generated" Art is going to replace human creativity any time soon. What it will do however is make it so anyone can engage in creative projects. From painting to making movies. I see the inevitable end state within the next few years where some weeb will come out with an AI Tool that will essentially allow for the creation of an entire Anime episode based solely upon inputs and manually entered text. Ditto for any sort of 3D Render animation, given sufficient computing power and autism. The absolute tidle wave of AI generated porn (which has already begun) will also make it far easier for degenerate shit to spread as the final gatekeeping to such things (actual artistic ability) is broken and any depraved shizo can make his own hentai novel involving pooping back and forth.

It all paints a very grim picture. We are already as a society culturally siloed to an extreme degree, but there is still, for now, some generalized shared social and cultural cohesion within the groups and between the groups. AI Art however will absolutely obliterate what remains, making the Silo's even smaller. Add in the rising ability of VR technology and its conceivable we could eventually enter a "pod person" scenario, where people will live in cultural worlds solely of their own creation and mind, surrounded by life affirming AI NPC's pretending to be their friends.

Kiwi's, the Industrial Revolution and its Consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

 

[BirdUp]

lol

 

[JesusChristDenton]

lmao

 

[WolfeTone]

AI art is starting to pull from other AI art, without the ability to distinguish it's own creations from genuinely inspired creations the algorithm will slip deeper and deeper into uncanny sludge. Ofcourse this is a problem that will be metered and dealt with as the evolution of AI tech goes on, but it definitely seems like a huge speedbump, due to the rate at which AI art can be generated. It will choke on it's own overproduction, like all other hyper-automation has.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

If a fucking computer makes better shit than you, it means you have no style, no uniqueness and you're a shit artist, fuck you.

 

[The Backwards Man]

I think I've said this before but the artkeks screeching about AI art are the same people who would be OK with and cheer on people like factory workers losing their jobs to robots.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

The AI is simply a very, VERY powerful tool. Like a magic paintbrush that allows anyone to paint like a master. Or Satan's tooth from Jack Blacks "Pick of Destiny".

If your skill depends on the tool, you're a shitty artist. The tool doesn't make the artist.

 

[Shroom King]

Submerging a crucifix in urine should never have been marketable skill. The planet is healing.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

We are already as a society culturally siloed to an extreme degree, but there is still, for now, some generalized shared social and cultural cohesion within the groups and between the groups. AI Art however will absolutely obliterate what remains, making the Silo's even smaller. Add in the rising ability of VR technology and its conceivable we could eventually enter a "pod person" scenario, where people will live in cultural worlds solely of their own creation and mind, surrounded by life affirming AI NPC's pretending to be their friends

While I do believe that further ease-of-access to AI generated content may shrink or dissolve existing groups (such as reducing the size of artist-commissioner partnerships by putting lowest-tier artists out of the equation), I also believe that it will promote the development of entirely new groups and social circles. There are multiple sites (and on places like 4chan or Reddit, multiple subgroups) which have formed in order to discuss and share the content created. There are likely plenty who sit alone and generate endlessly, but many more share their creations just as traditional online groups of artists do.

When AI Dungeon was the de facto method of experiencing GPT for most people, I saw as competing schools of thought developed on how to more effectively guide the model to produce the most coherent output, with plenty of back-and-forth and argumentation. With how many adjustable parts things like Stable Diffusion have, I see it being the same as the tech advances, likely in unpredictable ways. The people looking to have that perfect result will, by necessity, have to communicate with others in order to learn. We're still a very long ways off from having a virtual utopia formed from us pressing one button, and an algorithm handling the rest. I don't think we need to worry about a nation's worth of cultural groups dissolving into nothing, at least not yet.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

We don't need cultural cohesion to pierce the degenerate silos. We need Hard Times™.

 

[Safir]

It all paints a very grim picture.

Explain memes.

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edit: having thus won the thread, let me waste time sperging here in the addendum

more kahntent == consoom consolidation
there's more content than ever, and yet everyone has at least heard of wet ass-pussy and marvel capeshit

• movies: everyone with a subscription or a pirate has access to more hours of video he can ever watch
• music: same, and autogenerated personalized playlists
• books: self-publishing in its every variety has already blown away the manpower limit on content generation
• games: a model of the AI future, they are already personalized experiences; and people are making non-personalized non-interactive derivatives (letsplays); ai content could go this way, as people share their good runs and seeds/prompts for them
• stories: you know it's how stories have historically worked, right? no one prevented you from telling another version of a story, in fact it was difficult not to. Humanity's cultural cohesion is far older than the european printing press

 

[WolfeTone]

Youknow, this is probably the same thing that happened when the camera first came out of prototyping. Artists who had been passing down techniques for hundreds of years on how to perfectly capture the essence of a scene on a canvas were probably feeling the same way digital artists are now when AI is starting to develop. For the longest period of time it was X, until Y developed and made it obsolete as a necessity, but X will always still be a thing people will appreciate, and soon Y will give in to Z, and so on and so forth.

 

[Whatevermancer]

Submerging a crucifix in urine should never have been marketable skill. The planet is healing.

Can an AI submerge a cricifix in piss or stick a banana to the wall?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I'm torn between arguing there is no social cohesion (Niggers rampaging in the street) or that the one that exists is sick and perverted (the enslavement to media, big gay and THE SCIENCE). Anyways the ability of people to create their own media can only be good considering the depths of insanity of perversion the current people that have monopoly on the media have).

 

[HorridHenry]

This is a really interesting post.

It is interesting. Because none of us really know what life before mass media was like before. You have to think that 200 years ago people were very mired in local traditions with games, stories, traditions existing in small silos with published works being farther reaching.

Then in the 20th century we had mass media. To an extent it was great for societal cohesion. Even 20 years ago everyone was talking about the Sopranos, Lost, South Park because there just wasn't that much on TV and you only had so many choices. Star Wars, Toystory, the Godfather, Dragonball Z, whateever. It was very easy to bond with like minded people over movies and television. Most people knew what that shit was even if they didn't watch it or enjoy it.

With youtube overtaking television for some people its definitely harder to find that common ground when it comes to entertainment. Used to be I could shoot the shit with someone over a movie, TV show, etc. about 5 years back. Now its much less likely they'll know the podcasts I know, or play the games I play. I suppose life before mass media must have been like this too? Maybe?

But its a really good point that with AI giving you all you could ever dream of for entertainment, in a very personalized manner, how do you find common ground with others? What's the excitement of sharing an interest with someone who "almost" likes what you like when the computer meets your every need, potentially?

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I was hoping the Planet Mountain Dew ad would sabotage the industrial revolution, but as I remember, we're still on our phones. The kikes have us sedated beyond belief.