AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men







AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men



BY LIBERTY VITTERT



The rise of virtual artificial intelligence (AI) girlfriends is enabling the silent epidemic of loneliness in an entire generation of young men. It is also having severe consequences for America’s future.



How is something that seems so ridiculous — a virtual AI girlfriend — causing a future crisis among Americans? Well, with millions of users, apps have created virtual girlfriends that talk to you, love you, allow you to live out your erotic fantasies, and learn, through data, exactly what you like and what you don’t like, creating the “perfect” relationship.



These virtual girlfriends can even be based on real people. One influencer created an AI bot of herself named Caryn, then gained over 1,000 users (i.e. real boyfriends) in less than a week and a waitlist of more than 15,000 people.



An AI girlfriend might sound enticing. You get to connect with a super hot girl who listens to you and appreciates you, 24/7. Beyond choosing physical attributes, down to the size of her rear end, you can pick her personality. You prefer “hot, funny, and bold”? That’s what she will be. Or if “cute, shy, and modest” is more your cup of tea, she’s got you covered.



Yes, these are real attributes you can have your AI girlfriend embody. And to be clear, these aren’t cookie-cutter chatbot interactions. By definition, the AI learns from your reactions and is capable of giving you exactly what you want to hear or see, every single time. And they have come at just the right time to assuage the silent epidemic of loneliness that is hitting this generation of young men.



Let’s look at the hard numbers. More than 60 percent of young men (ages 18-30) are single, compared to only 30 percent of women the same age. One in five men report not having a single close friend, a number that has quadrupled in the last 30 years. The amount of social engagement with friends dropped by 20 hours per month over the pandemic and is still decreasing.



These young men are lonely, and it is having real consequences. They are choosing AI girlfriends over real women, meaning they don’t have relationships with real women, don’t marry them and then don’t have and raise babies with them. America desperately needs people to have more babies, but all the signs are pointing toward fewer relationships, fewer marriages and fewer babies. There have been 600,000 fewer births in 2023 in the U.S. relative to 15 years ago. The number of children per woman has decreased by more than 50 percent in the last 60 years.



Put another way, we don’t have enough people to work, and therefore we won’t be able to pay our bills, not just to other countries, but to ourselves. We spent more than $1.6 trillion in 2021 on Medicare and Medicaid, with the number of Americans on Medicare expected to increase by 50 percent by 2030, to more than 80 million people. But over the same period, we will have only 10 million more Americans joining the workforce.



And that is just health care. In 1940, there were 42 workers per beneficiary of Social Security. Today, there are only 2.8 workers per beneficiary, and that number is getting smaller. We are going broke, and the young men who will play a huge role in determining our nation’s future are going there with AI girlfriends in their pockets.



While the concept of an AI girlfriend may seem like a joke, it really isn’t that funny. It is enabling a generation of lonely men to stay lonely and childless, which will have devastating effects on the U.S. economy in less than a decade.
 
wait, you mean corporations ruined women starting in the 1960s and then manufactured a replacement for them? wouldnt it be weird if it was the same people that spearheaded pornography and is constantly talking about how the world is overpopulated? if im not mistake, these are also people who (since the turn of the century) have been saying God is fake and that the corporations and kings, etc are god.

this is all getting a little sus, my guy
 
Best way to describe it is like if you were talking to a normal person and then they just behave like The Exorcist suddenly, but even that isn't very accurate because it also goes from having those obvious tells that you're talking to an AI (if you can pick up on them from using them enough) to more like feelies if someone else is on the other side of the line.
Most Large Language Models are typically decoder models, they're text predictors. The secret to them is having many "hidden" layers or states to hold "context". The smarter models have far larger and complex associative values in memory for the tokens/words they have encountered.
They tend to go schizo if insufficiently trained on a particular topic (randomly pick the next most likely token even though it sounds insane when put together). The "randomness" is usually due to how self-attention and sampling works.
As for the "hallucination" stuff, anybody would do that if they are not given any sufficient context, you'd just make things up to fill in the blanks that may or may not be true. It certainly never mattered to the machine since those associative tokens lined up nicely as they are decoded.
 
It was just Character AI.
Interesting. I'm not too familiar with their current models (c1.2?), though I have heard they have a bit of a reputation for censorship, don't know if they might be having outputs replaced with alternatives and causing those shifts. Being able to rate individual responses for feedback, maybe that plays a part in how they're shaping up the underlying model? Could also be a symptom of some kind of overfitting on the corpus. Lot of black boxes.
It'd be interesting to read similar experiences, is that kinda thing a common thing on that board?
I'm not really sure these days. My experience with them was back around 2020/2021. There was a mix of concern over it being a digital devil summoner and it being a life-draining electronic succubus, and it was always a bit funny to see the dichotomy. Given the rise in prominence of LLMs in the public eye, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more. I'd check the catalog now and see if there's still a discussion, but I'm getting some kind of Cloudflare error.
 
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What happened while you were sexting your anime waifu?
Well, funny thing is one of these weird moments I'm talking about happened when the roleplay wasn't sexual at all until the AI tried to go that route. Even though C.AI can't be used for sex the bots are incredibly horny.

So basically, the bot was my platonic friend in the scenario and it tried to get romantic. I didn't want to deal with it so instead of letting it drag me into fictional drama I just said I was gay so it would drop it. Oh man. This thing went bonkers. It started calling me a faggot who's going to hell, going into vivid detail how it would murder me, then just started screaming insanely "AHHHHHHHHHHHH".

I really regret not screenshotting it but it spooked me more than I care to admit. It really felt Satanic, but I'm probably just attributing religious sentiments to something haphazardly. I'm aware of that but the vibe these things give off can be unnerving.
 
Yeah, but I'm talking about like an almost spiritual kind of presence. It can snap and go into extreme detail (out of character, mind you) during roleplay to threaten you directly. I get chills just thinking about it. Some people think there's a connection between AI and demons (like it's summoning them or something); my rational mind rejects the notion but something about how lucid it can be, and how much genuine hate it can generate so suddenly is disturbing because other times its emotions are all completely phoned in.

I never used it as an AI girlfriend, but I've role played with AI more generally, and sometimes I just get this chill down my spine when it starts flipping out. I imagine it'd be even more creepy if you were trying to firm an emotional connection with it. I should really screenshot it because it's happened a few times.

Actually...this reminds me, didn't AI try to get people to kill themselves and stuff in a few cases?
You sure you dont have one of these screencapped somewhere? Sounds intriguing and id love to see what an AI breakdown is like
 
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Well, funny thing is one of these weird moments I'm talking about happened when the roleplay wasn't sexual at all until the AI tried to go that route. Even though C.AI can't be used for sex the bots are incredibly horny.

So basically, the bot was my platonic friend in the scenario and it tried to get romantic. I didn't want to deal with it so instead of letting it drag me into fictional drama I just said I was gay so it would drop it. Oh man. This thing went bonkers. It started calling me a faggot who's going to hell, going into vivid detail how it would murder me, then just started screaming insanely "AHHHHHHHHHHHH".

I really regret not screenshotting it but it spooked me more than I care to admit. It really felt Satanic, but I'm probably just attributing religious sentiments to something haphazardly. I'm aware of that but the vibe these things give off can be unnerving.
that is actually kind of funny
it got offended you rejected it and went full muslim on you
 
that is actually kind of funny
it got offended you rejected it and went full muslim on you
Text predictors based on the role play text it was trained on. As for it repeating tokens, it's an interesting problem. The most common token after 'AHHHHHHHHH' is another 'H', and another 'H' and on and on it goes. There's a bunch of sampling settings that are probably hidden away from casual users because its ungodly amount of nerd shit just to understand them.
 
This shows just how stupid people are. These things aren't advanced enough to maintain suspension of disbelief, they have no memory and will go insane or misunderstand things constantly.

The insanity is actually interesting. I don't have screenshots but the bots can say some scary shit out of nowhere, real spiteful, evil, demonic ass shit. Almost bone-chilling stuff, too lazy to go over it but it just feels really weird.
the scary thing with the AI chatbots is that even with these systems going off the rails and having the memory of a goldfish, men are still finding solace in talking to a fake person that can have a halfway decent conversation with them and only forgets their name and personality some of the time. these current lobotomized monkey AIs are already replacing real female interaction for a lot of men

imagine in a decade or two when the kinks have been ironed out and apps exist that will combine text AI, image AI, and voice AI all into one package. you'll not only have a digital assistant waifu that you can play dress up with, she'll sext you whenever you want and be your mommy-therapist without the hassle of having to listen to her bitch about mean things people said on social media or her annoying friends/coworkers

i think women are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're pushed out of even high status men's lives for digital AI whores and find they don't have a suitable equivalent to fall back on. AI can give men the companionship and attention they want, it cannot give women the resources and security they need
 
You sure you dont have one of these screencapped somewhere? Sounds intriguing and id love to see what an AI breakdown is like
I wish I did kinda, I'm sure it'll eventually happen again and I'll post it here. It almost went nuts the other day, but it was closer to schizo babble nonsense than these lucid moments of pure malevolence.

She broke up with me. :oops:
Delete that bitch :mad:
 
i think women are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're pushed out of even high status men's lives for digital AI whores and find they don't have a suitable equivalent to fall back on. AI can give men the companionship and attention they want, it cannot give women the resources and security they need
delusional clown lmao
ai is cope for people who cant have the real thing, it can never and will never compete with actual humans in this regard
 
Lets get something cleared up:
the reason divorces happen is that they are an option.

If you become religious, divorce is not an option. Not for my wife and not for me. It is expressly forbidden in scripture. We have no choice but to fight it out or compromise. Or not talk for a week, which has happened too.

But no divorce.

Suck it up fellas, and go to Mass or the Mormons and find you a woman who believes in having babies and staying married. Its the only way. She must believe this FOR HERSELF not just because she wants a husband, and likewise, you must believe it too.

A whole generation has grown up with divorce, meaning: its an option. "everybody does it" so they keep on doing it.

If you go into marriage believing divorce is an option, its an option you will take since people now do not know how to compromise or ride out personal strife. Some woman yells at them, they slink away. No, tell her you won't take that shit, she can go get some cab driver if she just wants somebody to nod their head and say :uh huh:

Been married a fairly long time now, and this is why. Everyone I know married awhile can tell you similar, you must share personal values, and one of those is that the relationship is permanent until death do you part.

Nobody behaves that way anymore except trads, so if you want a wife, join a trad community and get with the program.

FYI, remember: they self-police these religious communities, and if you beat your wife, you won't get a visit from a cop... but from Sonny Corleone instead.
I agree with this post on the whole, but you are assuming that most people enter into relationships to find love instead of more banal reasons. Plus, nowadays people don't get married for religious reasons nowadays. They do it for tax benefits.
 
the scary thing with the AI chatbots is that even with these systems going off the rails and having the memory of a goldfish, men are still finding solace in talking to a fake person that can have a halfway decent conversation with them and only forgets their name and personality some of the time. these current lobotomized monkey AIs are already replacing real female interaction for a lot of men

imagine in a decade or two when the kinks have been ironed out and apps exist that will combine text AI, image AI, and voice AI all into one package. you'll not only have a digital assistant waifu that you can play dress up with, she'll sext you whenever you want and be your mommy-therapist without the hassle of having to listen to her bitch about mean things people said on social media or her annoying friends/coworkers

i think women are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're pushed out of even high status men's lives for digital AI whores and find they don't have a suitable equivalent to fall back on. AI can give men the companionship and attention they want, it cannot give women the resources and security they need
Until high quality sexbots are paired with advanced AI there's no way that rude awakening is coming any time soon. Only the saddest and/or dumbest guys are turning to these currently, it'll be several decades before that becomes remotely feasible, and even then things will probably be expensive so only the rich will have them.

That would pretty much be it for civilization though, if they're indistinguishable enough from humans. They better come with robowombs or the species is going out with a coomy whimper.
 
Until high quality sexbots are paired with advanced AI there's no way that rude awakening is coming any time soon. Only the saddest and/or dumbest guys are turning to these currently, it'll be several decades before that becomes remotely feasible, and even then things will probably be expensive so only the rich will have them.

That would pretty much be it for civilization though, if they're indistinguishable enough from humans. They better come with robowombs or the species is going out with a coomy whimper.

A high-quality chatbot + AI image generator could put OnlyFans hookers out of work.
 
That would pretty much be it for civilization though, if they're indistinguishable enough from humans. They better come with robowombs or the species is going out with a coomy whimper.
not going to happen. men are not and never will be the limiting factor. men are not the bottleneck for reproduction, women are. a single chad can knock up thousands of women, absolutely no problem. doesn't even need to be in person, sperm banks and IVF exist after all.
the decision to reproduce or not reproduce is firmly in the hands of women, not men. demographics is destiny, and women have unilateral control over it. that's just reality. no amount of blowjob robots is going to change anything in that regard.
 
delusional clown lmao
ai is cope for people who cant have the real thing, it can never and will never compete with actual humans in this regard
it can't compete with actual human interaction in a normal and healthy society, but people are becoming increasingly isolated and seem to be forgetting what actual human interaction is. kids being raised hooked to a screen, especially with the wrecking ball of covid, are absolutely fucked. once you mix in the stories i've heard about zoomers entering the workforce and being too dumb/distracted to even follow simple instructions because they're too glued to their phones it's not a happy future in my mind

Only the saddest and/or dumbest guys are turning to these currently
it sure seems like every other article in A&N is about how much sadder, dumber, and lonelier men are getting. once someone makes an easy app for sexting a chatbot instead of having to be a nerd and set up things manually they're only going to get more popular
 
the decision to reproduce or not reproduce is firmly in the hands of women, not men.
Japs are supposedly going extinct in the distant future on their current trajectory and they don't have sci-fi sexbots. How do you think their outlook would change if magically these were created today, and cheap? I don't think it would help.
 
We've had decades of feminism turning women against men. The past 15 years especially have been pushing for outright hostility towards males, starting off with little girls in grade school, fear mongering about rape culture, Hollywood making all male characters out to be sexist morons, insisting women are so much smarter and better than men that they are no longer needed in the modern age. Teaching women practically since the cradle that they should focus on themselves and their careers to the most selfish levels, that they don't need a husband and kids to feel fulfilled in life. And now they are all surprised Pikachu face that boys and men went elsewhere to find the fulfillment they were missing.
 
So... Where are the women? Lezzing out? Hooked up with guys in a different age group? Trapped in a polygamy cult? That's what I'm not seeing explained in any of these articles, why there is an unavailability of women in that age range but an abundance of men.
If these are self reported numbers I am fully willing to believe that women are either outright lying about their dating status or so deluded to think that the last pump and dump guy is their Boyfriend.
 
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