AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men







AI girlfriends are ruining an entire generation of men



BY LIBERTY VITTERT



The rise of virtual artificial intelligence (AI) girlfriends is enabling the silent epidemic of loneliness in an entire generation of young men. It is also having severe consequences for America’s future.



How is something that seems so ridiculous — a virtual AI girlfriend — causing a future crisis among Americans? Well, with millions of users, apps have created virtual girlfriends that talk to you, love you, allow you to live out your erotic fantasies, and learn, through data, exactly what you like and what you don’t like, creating the “perfect” relationship.



These virtual girlfriends can even be based on real people. One influencer created an AI bot of herself named Caryn, then gained over 1,000 users (i.e. real boyfriends) in less than a week and a waitlist of more than 15,000 people.



An AI girlfriend might sound enticing. You get to connect with a super hot girl who listens to you and appreciates you, 24/7. Beyond choosing physical attributes, down to the size of her rear end, you can pick her personality. You prefer “hot, funny, and bold”? That’s what she will be. Or if “cute, shy, and modest” is more your cup of tea, she’s got you covered.



Yes, these are real attributes you can have your AI girlfriend embody. And to be clear, these aren’t cookie-cutter chatbot interactions. By definition, the AI learns from your reactions and is capable of giving you exactly what you want to hear or see, every single time. And they have come at just the right time to assuage the silent epidemic of loneliness that is hitting this generation of young men.



Let’s look at the hard numbers. More than 60 percent of young men (ages 18-30) are single, compared to only 30 percent of women the same age. One in five men report not having a single close friend, a number that has quadrupled in the last 30 years. The amount of social engagement with friends dropped by 20 hours per month over the pandemic and is still decreasing.



These young men are lonely, and it is having real consequences. They are choosing AI girlfriends over real women, meaning they don’t have relationships with real women, don’t marry them and then don’t have and raise babies with them. America desperately needs people to have more babies, but all the signs are pointing toward fewer relationships, fewer marriages and fewer babies. There have been 600,000 fewer births in 2023 in the U.S. relative to 15 years ago. The number of children per woman has decreased by more than 50 percent in the last 60 years.



Put another way, we don’t have enough people to work, and therefore we won’t be able to pay our bills, not just to other countries, but to ourselves. We spent more than $1.6 trillion in 2021 on Medicare and Medicaid, with the number of Americans on Medicare expected to increase by 50 percent by 2030, to more than 80 million people. But over the same period, we will have only 10 million more Americans joining the workforce.



And that is just health care. In 1940, there were 42 workers per beneficiary of Social Security. Today, there are only 2.8 workers per beneficiary, and that number is getting smaller. We are going broke, and the young men who will play a huge role in determining our nation’s future are going there with AI girlfriends in their pockets.



While the concept of an AI girlfriend may seem like a joke, it really isn’t that funny. It is enabling a generation of lonely men to stay lonely and childless, which will have devastating effects on the U.S. economy in less than a decade.
 
I ain't reading this shit but good, coomers are weak and don't deserve to saddle children with their defective genes. Letting coomers coom themselves into extinction is the most precise and least destructive selection pathway.
 
I ain't reading this shit but good, coomers are weak and don't deserve to saddle children with their defective genes. Letting coomers coom themselves into extinction is the most precise and least destructive selection pathway.
do you seriously believe that the hordes of pajeets, muhammads and ngubus that are imported to take the place of the locals you select out of existence are going to be better overall?
 
Genuinely what is the writer of this article's solution? Outlawing all this AI girlfriend shit is untenable and almost certainly unconstitutional. And something tells me hard conversations about how it takes two to tango and women should help with and be considerate about men's mental health issues isn't an option in most of these people's minds.

The ruling class' solution to this is already set in stone anyways: just import as many immigrants as possible and cross your fingers that somehow money pours in.
It'd be as sensible (and as impossible) to outlaw porn (which would also be very anti-Semitic to do) as that industry eats up and spits out its workers and porn addicts end up as low T depressives.
 
A better analogy would be camgirl and OF simps, not porn. But even that's less pathetic, as pathetic as it is, than guys pretending to be in love with a chat bot.

Considering the "personal" OF notes are virtually all ghost-written, it's basically the same thing. By the way, curiosity killed the cat, and no, I won't post a link, but it didn't take much Googling to find out that my earlier idea of an AI chatbot that sends AI nudes is already out there.
 
I think our view of the men that are addicted to porn or chatbots is influenced by extreme media portrayals. They're always portrayed like morbidly obese neckbeards with their waifu pillows, living on the basement and only taking a shower once per month.

In reality, most are fairly average looking guys who hold a job and take moderate care of themselves. They go day to day to earn money and comw back pretty exhausted, physically and mentally. Just the average Joe earning 60k a year.
I'm with you on all of this.
Thing is, the average Joe is as appealing as a wet sock to most women. It must also be mentioned that our generations were raised on boomer delusions and sacrificed all personal relationships for school and work.
My thesis: the average Joe in this scenario, if he is actually trying at all to meet women (and is not simply demoralized by grim stats and the frightening model of modern dating he's built in his head), is failing in a "show me your resume" style of dating enabled and created by dating sites/apps. These apps are ultimately a way of meeting people, so I don't have a problem with them in theory. But giving people too much choice makes them pickier than they would be otherwise, and I think these apps are poorly designed... if the goal is to match people up instead of getting them paying for the service in perpetuity. I know many people who have met their spouses through these apps, so I don't think they're worthless.

But dating apps provide artificial filters. People think they want all that choice, but it doesn't serve them well. Many of the men and women (but mostly men) that "aren't good enough" on the app (or are too old/young or too tall/short) would be perfectly charming if met the old fashioned way. And increasingly people don't know how to meet in person outside of the workplace. They don't know that "the rules" are.

I'm sympathetic. It's a real problem, the lack of community and consequential social connections we struggle with in the West. But this...
These men KNOW it's shallow. They KNOW it's not the real thing. They KNOW it's just an artificial algorithm that can't replace an actual woman's empathy. But even an "I love you" by a chatbot is more than they get from society.
... is fucking retarded, and I don't think many guys are actually living like that. It reminds me of "video games are making kids violent" (as if kids don't know that games aren't real). It sounds like feminist bullshit to whip women up into even greater heights of performative hysteria about the dangers of incels.

The attraction and mating dance is much, much more complicated than "Western women have priced themselves out of the dating market, so I'm going to be alone forever." The first part of that statement is true. But the assumption is those women are just going to give up and be alone en masse instead of eventually meeting someone, and that's not going to happen en masse. Some of them will be alone forever, but odds are they're fucked up and you wouldn't want to be with them anyway. (Ditto for any woman who wants to know how much money you make as a prerequisite to dating. Fuck that, laugh at her and walk away. And do not fill in that field on a dating app no matter how much you make.)

My point is it's not hopeless, and if you think a chat bot is a replacement for a real relationship, you're fucked up beyond just loneliness.
 
darkening my fucking doorstep with saggy balls and defective sperm asking for family in a seller's market after having midlife crisis or facing your own mortality
women are panicking ( lol nope) or something.
"Women aren't panicking, but men definitely are. I'm totally going to live out my weird revenge fantasy against the people who rejected me any moment now. Just you wait."
 
I ain't reading this shit but good, coomers are weak and don't deserve to saddle children with their defective genes. Letting coomers coom themselves into extinction is the most precise and least destructive selection pathway.
I grew up in a trailer park and knew plenty of heroin addicted highschool dropouts with no teeth who nonetheless had 6+ children. And multiple gfs at a time.

Are these ubersmenchen Chads you speak of?

Despite their reproductive success how much will they contribute to society?
 
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The attraction and mating dance is much, much more complicated than "Western women have priced themselves out of the dating market, so I'm going to be alone forever." The first part of that statement is true. But the assumption is those women are just going to give up and be alone en masse instead of eventually meeting someone, and that's not going to happen en masse.
nobody claims that these women are choosing to be alone forever. that is not what's happening.
women who 'price themselves out of the dating market' don't drop out, they simply become part of chad's harem. sometimes they delude themselves into thinking they're in a relationship with chad when they're actually just one of his many side pieces. the result is that most women have hooked up with a bunch of men, a few high status men have hooked up with hundreds or even thousands of women, while the rest of the men just get zero female attention at all.
at the end of the day this arrangement is great for chad (obviously) but leaves the women bitter and resentful (after they realize that chad really isn't going to marry them) while the other men are just left to rot and die.
 
The media complex hand wringing about something "ruining" men, after spending 20 years doing everything to make them feel unwanted and unneeded in a woman's life..... that's rich!
MSM: treats men like potential rapists and straight male sexuality like a disease, encourages women to be masculine and promiscuous

many guys: turn to AI girlfriends

MSM: [surprised Pikachu face]
 
nobody claims that these women are choosing to be alone forever. that is not what's happening.
women who 'price themselves out of the dating market' don't drop out, they simply become part of chad's harem. sometimes they delude themselves into thinking they're in a relationship with chad when they're actually just one of his many side pieces. the result is that most women have hooked up with a bunch of men, a few high status men have hooked up with hundreds or even thousands of women, while the rest of the men just get zero female attention at all.
at the end of the day this arrangement is great for chad (obviously) but leaves the women bitter and resentful (after they realize that chad really isn't going to marry them) while the other men are just left to rot and die.
Polygamy was... not uncommon in most of human history. So that's a real threat, and I think you could make the case that's happening a lot in "hookup culture." (Though I think much of the disparity in single status with young men and women is because the women are dating older men.)

However, "polycule" kind of women are by definition busted-ass whores you should not want to have a serious relationship with. They are doing everyone a favor by showing the world what they are. In prehistory, polygamy was about survival and social status, not love. The Western world, with its focus" on the individual, is not really compatible with polygamy. Hell, civilization is not compatible with it. (Because it leaves swaths of young men without access to women, and that has historically always meant widespread destabilization and violence.) And I do not think most Western women would go for that unless they were forced to (like, say, by a religious caliphate) because it's, frankly, insulting to her... if the relationship is about more than access to resources or showing your dumb cunt of a friend how valuable you are.

Increasingly, I think the path forward is single men 1) focusing on self-improvement and especially 2) refusing to lower their standards. Do not simp, and do not accept promiscuous women as serious relationship material. (You don't have to shame them, just ignore them.) Having standards and sticking to them is another way of signaling to women that you're not low status, and it's very effective if she has any interest in you. Women want a man with a backbone and standards because he won't let other men violate his standards towards her, either. (Just like children need boundaries. If the shoe fits...)

And yes, I hear guys online talking about not having any success with women, but I just don't believe they've been rejected a hundred times in a row by a hundred different women. I think it's more likely they get demoralized after a string of failures. And the issue is men don't really talk about being rejected and how to handle it even though we all deal with it. (And the rich and famous guys who don't are in a worse position, because they can't trust the motives of the women coming after them.)

And (to get back on topic) as for AI waifus, I am not worried about them until we create completely lifelike androids that are commoditized.
 
ut dating apps provide artificial filters. People think they want all that choice, but it doesn't serve them well. Many of the men and women (but mostly men) that "aren't good enough" on the app (or are too old/young or too tall/short) would be perfectly charming if met the old fashioned way. And increasingly people don't know how to meet in person outside of the workplace. They don't know that "the rules" are.
Business idea (that I'm too lazy to implement)

You get to rate people as attractive or unattractive. But unlike swipe left/right apps, this does NOT provide you with a match. No. You are scoring each other, and the app generates a histogram over time and only presents you with matches in your band. So if you are a fat, ugly chick with a mixed-race kid, you only ever get matches with the bottom 1% of men (kiwifarms users).
 
This sucks but men need to accept nobody cares about them(but Jesus) and the world hates them. Granted that is easier to accept if you're a christian(If Hod is with us who can stand agaisnt us) but either way you gotta accept it. Even here on the farms there's still a large contigent that a) still believe in feminism, b) think equality is real and expect to be treated like women. Pointing out the hypocrisy of a woman does nothing. It's less than worthless, they are hypocritical and change their mind all the time. They reserve the right to.

All you can do is live your life for you. Enjoy it, improve yourself and if you want to find a real life woman, put yourself in situations where you interact with them. Hobbies are great. LEARN TO DANCE and actually have the goal of learning to dance. Join a reading club or w/e bullshit you like that's offered where you're at. Staying at home and botching about how life isn't fair and woman are mean and overvalue themselves, while all that is true, is pointless. It does nothing for you.

And yeah woman are sad that men are happy without them. That's what they do. I don't get upset when a fish swims. It's doing what it does naturally. People getting upset with women for doing what they do naturally is weird.
 
However, "polycule" kind of women are by definition busted-ass whores you should not want to have a serious relationship with. They are doing everyone a favor by showing the world what they are. In prehistory, polygamy was about survival and social status, not love. The Western world, with its focus" on the individual, is not really compatible with polygamy. Hell, civilization is not compatible with it. (Because it leaves swaths of young men without access to women, and that has historically always meant widespread destabilization and violence.) And I do not think most Western women would go for that unless they were forced to (like, say, by a religious caliphate) because it's, frankly, insulting to her... if the relationship is about more than access to resources or showing your dumb cunt of a friend how valuable you are.
i'm not talking about polyamoury women, those are indeed bottom of the barrel.
i'm talking about normal-ish women. they do not consciously choose to get in a harem, they are just attracted to the same top tier guys every other woman is attracted to, and they have a big enough ego to think they have a chance with him. so the top guy gladly accepts and casually bangs a dozen women on an on-and-off basis. they usually aren't aware of each other, or if they are they rationalize it away ("eventually he'll dump her and only see me, because i'm just that special!")

and because of womens warped perception of reality, they are often not fully aware of the situation, because a man who is objectively a super high status chad, like top 10% of all men, just registers as "normal guy" in the minds of women. they are not aware of their own hypergamy, they think they are being perfectly reasonable.
 
Business idea (that I'm too lazy to implement)

You get to rate people as attractive or unattractive. But unlike swipe left/right apps, this does NOT provide you with a match. No. You are scoring each other, and the app generates a histogram over time and only presents you with matches in your band. So if you are a fat, ugly chick with a mixed-race kid, you only ever get matches with the bottom 1% of men (kiwifarms users).
Honestly? I think the best option is for dating apps to artificially limit the number of potential matches you can see and contact per day or week. Use some algo mumbo jumbo to find matches based on basic stats (age, what you're looking for in a relationship) and then present them to you. This would (in theory) force you to consider each match more seriously and craft a message to them instead of making a virtual form letter you send to 50+ women per day because maybe one of them will respond to say "no thank you."

That is, if the apps even need to go that far. People think of dating personals, with all text and no pictures, as the Stone Age, but they got people into rooms with each other. I know Reddit is cancer, but personals subs still exist and are still used regularly because they work. The goal of any dating app should be meeting other people first and foremost.

Anyway, if you give women a list of 100+ local men, they will have no choice but to be picky as hell to make a choice between them. This is not conducive to meeting potential mates. It's creating a fucked up environment where the same few guys meet all the women.
 
And yes, I hear guys online talking about not having any success with women, but I just don't believe they've been rejected a hundred times in a row by a hundred different women. I think it's more likely they get demoralized after a string of failures. And the issue is men don't really talk about being rejected and how to handle it even though we all deal with it. (And the rich and famous guys who don't are in a worse position, because they can't trust the motives of the women coming after them.)
I thought we were talking about it... AI Girlfriends, SexBots, Whores, the usual.

And no, you don't have to be rejected a hundred times, just enough to know that this "dating" thing isn't for you.
 
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very real chance that the depression is a lack of vitamin D and/or B12. Cod liver oil is just about the best way to get D, B12, and Omega 3.
That is extremely good advice, which I have already benefited a lot from. Right now I use as lightbox in the morning, sunbathe at noon and eat loads of oily fish.

Part of the reason that apart from temporary loneliness my depression is a lot better.
 
Put another way, we don’t have enough people to work, and therefore we won’t be able to pay our bills, not just to other countries, but to ourselves. We spent more than $1.6 trillion in 2021 on Medicare and Medicaid, with the number of Americans on Medicare expected to increase by 50 percent by 2030, to more than 80 million people. But over the same period, we will have only 10 million more Americans joining the workforce.
Getting rid of Medicaid is a great start, I'm all in favor of that.
 
i'm not talking about polyamoury women, those are indeed bottom of the barrel.
i'm talking about normal-ish women. they do not consciously choose to get in a harem, they are just attracted to the same top tier guys every other woman is attracted to, and they have a big enough ego to think they have a chance with him. so the top guy gladly accepts and casually bangs a dozen women on an on-and-off basis. they usually aren't aware of each other, or if they are they rationalize it away ("eventually he'll dump her and only see me, because i'm just that special!")

and because of womens warped perception of reality, they are often not fully aware of the situation, because a man who is objectively a super high status chad, like top 10% of all men, just registers as "normal guy" in the minds of women. they are not aware of their own hypergamy, they think they are being perfectly reasonable.
Couldn't you avoid that problem by ignoring women who have casual sex with guys they barely know? You don't need a religious person or a virgin (though there's nothing wrong with either of those), just someone who dates for real relationships and isn't adding to her body count by fucking strangers. There are women who naturally don't have mere casual sex and don't want to. (Of course, men have to want to date women who won't put out easily.)

That said, I think most people have a phase where they learn harsh lessons about what to expect and demand from a partner. But a woman who is always confused by a series of players is someone with real problems and isn't learning from her mistakes.
 
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That is extremely good advice, which I have already benefited a lot from. Right now I use as lightbox in the morning, sunbathe at noon and eat loads of oily fish.

Part of the reason that apart from temporary loneliness my depression is a lot better.
have you thought about chatting with Replika and seeing if you feel less lonely and depressed? you can be a case study for us
 
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