Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.
 

Alec Baldwin sued by family of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins killed on Rust set​

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The family of a cinematographer shot and killed on the set of the film Rust is suing Alec Baldwin and the movie's producers for wrongful death.

Key points:​

  • Baldwin is being sued over his role in handling the gun, and as a producer coordinating the film
  • There are four other lawsuits that have been filed over the shooting
  • Baldwin does not believe he will be criminally charged

Lawyers for the family of Halyna Hutchins announced the lawsuit filed in the name of Hutchins's husband, Matthew Hutchins, and their son, Andros.

At least four other lawsuits have been filed over the shooting, but this is the first directly tied to one of the two people shot.

The "reckless conduct and cost-cutting measures" of Baldwin and the film's producers "led to the death of Halyna Hutchins," lawyer Brian Panish said.

A video created by the legal team showed an animated recreation of the shooting.

Baldwin, who was also a producer on the film, was pointing a gun at Hutchins during the set-up for the filming of a scene for the western in New Mexico on October 21 last year when it went off, killing Hutchins and wounding the director, Joel Souza.

Baldwin has said he was pointing the gun at Hutchins at her instruction and it went off without him pulling the trigger.

The lawyers said in the video that Baldwin had turned down training for the kind of gun draw he was doing when he shot Hutchins.

They said industry standards call for using a rubber or similar prop gun during the set-up that was happening, and there was no call for a real gun.

Emails sent seeking comment from an attorney for Baldwin and a representative of the film's other producers were not immediately returned.

Investigations into Hutchins's death continue​

Last month, nearly three months after the shooting, Baldwin turned over his mobile phone to investigators.

The investigation team have described "some complacency" in how weapons were handled on the Rust set.

They have said it is too soon to determine whether charges will be filed.
Baldwin said he does not believe he will be criminally charged in the shooting.

The film's script supervisor and its lead camera operator, both of whom were standing a few feet away when Hutchins was shot, each filed a lawsuit over the trauma they went through.

The film's armourer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, who was named as a defendant in those lawsuits and blamed by some for the shooting, filed her own suit saying an ammunition supplier created dangerous conditions by including live ammunition in a box that was supposed to include only dummy rounds.

In an interview in December, Baldwin said he felt incredible sadness over the the shooting, but not guilt.

"Someone is responsible for what happened, and I can't say who that is, but it's not me," Baldwin said.

He said Hutchins had asked him to point the gun just off camera and toward her armpit before it went off.

"I didn't pull the trigger," Baldwin said.

"I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them. Never."

He referred to Hutchins as "somebody who was loved by everybody and admired by everybody who worked with her."

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"I didn't pull the trigger," Baldwin said.

"I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them. Never."
I hope to God he gets deposed and says that under oath, because unless there's a physical malfunction with the sear, which would be incredibly obvious with even a cursory examination of the gun, there's no real explanation for how it could have fired without him pulling the trigger.
 

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So LegalBytes has done a walkthrough of the intitial complaint, and honestly some if not all those defendants are about to get bent over if this gets anywhere near a jury. My favourite bit was apparently one of the crew messaged a producer about 3 negligent discharges on set and the dude's response was "Accidental discharges on the firearms? Awesome. Sounds good."
Now obviously they were being sarcastic, but if you're responsible for safety and your response to reports of 3 serious safety breaches is sarcasm, and then not doing anything to fix it you gonna get fucking destroyed in the lawsuit.
 
unless there's a physical malfunction with the sear
I believe that the hammer bar safety means the weapon wouldn’t discharge from a worn sear failing to engage.
I believe that although the sear forms part of the trigger mechanism, the safety bar will only allow the weapon to fire if the trigger is pulled- not just if the sear fails to engage when the weapon cocks.
But I could be wrong. In any case I agree, I hope Baldwin says he never pulled the trigger and it comes out that the weapon wouldn’t fire without a trigger pull.

Also, get your shit together NM state police, we’re all waiting to see what you think happened, three fucking months is more than enough time. Fucking siesta niggers.

EDIT: Come to think of it, a worn sear not catching the hammer cocking notch when the weapon’s cocked is a pretty fucking obvious problem that’s highly unlikely to be intermittent.

Baldwin claimed he cocked the weapon several times before it discharged, IIRC- where a non-catching sear would have caused the hammer to ride forward every time he cocked it.

So he’s almost certainly lying about not pulling the trigger. Maybe the sear was worn/modified enough to engage, but the pistol literally had a hair trigger and all he needed to do was touch it. A friend who had a .357 revolver he used for competition target shooting once let me try it, on full cock it probably only needed a quarter ounce of trigger pull. Shit was scary light on the action.
 
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So LegalBytes has done a walkthrough of the intitial complaint, and honestly some if not all those defendants are about to get bent over if this gets anywhere near a jury. My favourite bit was apparently one of the crew messaged a producer about 3 negligent discharges on set and the dude's response was "Accidental discharges on the firearms? Awesome. Sounds good."
Now obviously they were being sarcastic, but if you're responsible for safety and your response to reports of 3 serious safety breaches is sarcasm, and then not doing anything to fix it you gonna get fucking destroyed in the lawsuit.
Couldn't have happened to nicer people. My only regret with this situation is that there's even a reason for the lawsuit in the first place.

@SITHRAK! IIRC we have no idea if the weapon he was using even had a hammer bar safety. If he was using the model of weapon people think he was and if it hadn't been fucked with to remove said hammer bar safety while still allowing now-unsafe operation, then yes, he would have had to deliberately pull the trigger. If he was using an unsafe weapon with no hammer bar safety, then him fucking around with the hammer would have been enough, both for a discharge and for him to be 100% culpable of negligence leading to a wrongful death.

Ultimately though, no matter the state of the weapon, Alec Baldwin fucked around, and Halyna Hutchins found out.
 
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The fix is in, folks:

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Alec Baldwin may not have pulled trigger in deadly shooting on ‘Rust’ set: DA​

By Patrick Reilly
February 20, 2022
Updated
An unofficial investigation will be launched by Mary Carmack-Altwies to test Alec Baldwin's claims that he did not pull the trigger while onset.


An unofficial investigation will be launched by Mary Carmack-Altwies to test Alec Baldwin's claims that he did not pull the trigger while onset.
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Alec Baldwin may have fired the shot that killed “Rust” cinematographer Halyna Hutchins without pulling the gun’s trigger, a New Mexico prosecutor says.
Santa Fe District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies told Vanity Fair she had watched Alec Baldwin’s bombshell interview with ABC in December and was drawn to the actor’s claim that he did not pull the trigger.
“You can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it,” Carmack-Altwies said. “So you pull it back partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet.”
Baldwin had insisted in the interview that the trigger was never pulled.
“I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them, never,” the former “30 Rock” star said.
Carmack-Altwies launched an unofficial investigation of her own to test Baldwin’s claims that he had only pulled back the hammer of the gun before it went off, firing the live bullet that fatally struck Hutchins in the chest and wounded the film’s director Joel Souza, who was hit in the clavicle.

Alec Baldwin said during the ABC interview that the trigger was never pulled, claiming he would never point a gun on anyone or pull a trigger at them.
Alec Baldwin said during the ABC interview that the trigger was never pulled, claiming he would never point a gun on anyone or pull a trigger at them.
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“I didn’t know too much about guns, certainly not about 1850s-era revolvers. So when I first heard that, I was like, ‘Oh, that’s crazy,’ ” she told Vanity Fair.
Santa Fe DA Mary Carmack-Altwies told Vanity Fair that even if the hammer is pulled partway — the firing pin can still hit the primer of the bullet.
Santa Fe DA Mary Carmack-Altwies told Vanity Fair that even if the hammer is pulled partway — the firing pin can still hit the primer of the bullet.
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The DA requested that one of her investigators bring his old-style revolver to her office to test if a mechanical malfunction could have caused the gun to go off. They cleared a room, and she had two investigators inspect the gun to confirm it was not loaded.
Her test revealed that the hammer could have caused the live round to fire, however official results from an FBI analysis of the weapon are still pending.

While Baldwin said he did not pull the trigger, a lawsuit filed by a “Rust” script supervisor in November alleges that he “intentionally” fired the gun at Hutchins.
Lawyers for Halyna Hutchins’ family filed a wrongful-death suit against Alec Baldwin, despite his claims that he only pulled back the hammer of the gun before it went off.
Lawyers for Halyna Hutchins’ family filed a wrongful-death suit against Alec Baldwin, despite his claims that he only pulled back the hammer of the gun before it went off. Getty Images for SAGindie

Lawyers for Halyna Hutchins’ family filed a wrongful-death suit against actor Alec Baldwin on Tuesday.
Baldwin responded with an Instagram post that simply included an image of an art installment from the Parrish Art Museum that says: “Everything is going to be alright.”

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So what we have here is a DA looking for reasons to exonerate Baldwin even before charges are filed, and doing so by 'testing' a completely different weapon.
Then going public and stating that Baldwin "may not have pulled the trigger".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it highly unusual for a DA to start making statements like this that may be seen as prejudicial (in a literal sense) before any announcement of charges?
 
“You can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it,” Carmack-Altwies said. “So you pull it back partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet.”
Except the weapon has a half-cock position, which means you can't pull the hammer back far enough, to detonate a primer unless
a)the rounds were fucked, and had the world's sketchiest primers or
b)the sear was fucked and let the hammer go back too far without engaging, which someone would have noticed by now.

I remember when Baldwin made his original claims and a bunch of youtubers set out to debunk him, one specifically got some rounds where they pulled the bullet/powder but left the primer, specifically to test if the hammer dropping from less than half-cock had enough force to detonate them (spoiler alert: of course it fucking couldn't)
 
Except the weapon has a half-cock position, which means you can't pull the hammer back far enough, to detonate a primer unless
a)the rounds were fucked, and had the world's sketchiest primers or
b)the sear was fucked and let the hammer go back too far without engaging, which someone would have noticed by now.

I remember when Baldwin made his original claims and a bunch of youtubers set out to debunk him, one specifically got some rounds where they pulled the bullet/powder but left the primer, specifically to test if the hammer dropping from less than half-cock had enough force to detonate them (spoiler alert: of course it fucking couldn't)
The bigger concern is that she's making and announcing decisions on Baldwin's potential guilt or innocence based on testing a completely different firearm to the one used in the shooting. There's not even any evidence that it's a SAA of any kind and she CLEARLY knows nothing about firearms. Which, for a DA, when a huge proportion of murders are committed with firearms, is inexcusable.

"You can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger..." Jesus christ almighty.

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Rug-muncher, former public defender. Hmmm.

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Soft-on-crime as are many other, ahem, 'politically aligned' DA's... what a coincidence her politics match those of the Hollywood elite and George Soros.
She's apparently a Democrat who has declined to seek jail time in cases of destruction of a public monument (part of the progressive agenda to allow idiots to destroy monuments).

Oh and she was assisted by an LGBTQ+ Org that seeks to help place 'the right people' into positions of power:
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...although that page appears to have been scrubbed from their site, possibly because she won.

Now what kind of Dem-voting, BLM-excusing, progressively-funded DA starts making public excuses for a potential criminal during an investigation? Especially when the person under investigation shares her politics? I wonder...
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it highly unusual for a DA to start making statements like this that may be seen as prejudicial (in a literal sense) before any announcement of charges?
It seems highly irregular for the prosecution to undertake an unofficial investigation of this nature and then announcing the results of said investigation to the press; even moreso due to the fact charges have not yet been laid. But what would I know?
 
Are there any other examples of a DA coming out and doing their own unofficial investigation? Isn't this highly unethical and it just tainted basically any jury he would have gotten? I feel like that if even YouTube gun people can immediately prove that he's lying and that gun doesn't fire without the trigger being pulled there should be a trial to get all the evidence out there.

Haha yeah that's what happens with normal people not famous liberal celebrities
 
Are there any other examples of a DA coming out and doing their own unofficial investigation? Isn't this highly unethical and it just tainted basically any jury he would have gotten? I feel like that if even YouTube gun people can immediately prove that he's lying and that gun doesn't fire without the trigger being pulled there should be a trial to get all the evidence out there.

Haha yeah that's what happens with normal people not famous liberal celebrities
Well the actual pistol is currently being tested by the FBI, but as we've seen, political appointments have resulted in a highly partisan FBI, so...
But frankly a DA is not a forensic investigator. Their job is to take the facts revealed by the formal investigation, reference them against statutes and legislation, and apply for the most appropriate charges to be applied and carried to trial.

This kind of activity smacks of a DA looking to get a political ally out of the shit. And given an apparent lack of personal involvement between Baldwin and Carmack-Altweis, there is only one reason a DA would be conducting their own unqualified forensic exam using materials not related to the case.
 

Alec Baldwin blames late Halyna Hutchins in fatal ‘Rust’ shooting: new docs​

Note: Leftist scumbag blames his victim- nobody who knows anything about the progressive left is surprised.

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Lee Brown
March 11, 2022 2:19pm
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Alec Baldwin 'very hopeful' he won't be held criminally responsible for Rust shooting

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Alec Baldwin filed legal papers Friday denying any responsibility for shooting dead Halyna Hutchins — even blaming the late cinematographer for giving him the directions that led to the deadly accident.
The 63-year-old actor insisted that every single mistake leading to the Oct. 21 shooting on the New Mexico set of “Rust” was “performed by someone else.”
His filing Friday also revealed that Baldwin made an “exhaustive effort” to get the crew back together to finish the doomed movie even after a flurry of lawsuits blamed him for mom-of-one Hutchins’ death.
“This is a rare instance when the system broke down, and someone should be held legally culpable for the tragic consequences,” the star’s lawyer, Luke Nikas, wrote in an arbitration filing Friday shared by Deadline.
“That person is not Alec Baldwin,” said the filing, adding that he is just “an actor.”
Note: Baldwin is also a producer and therefore potentially responsible for ensuring safety controls on set.
He's also notorious as a 'my way or the highway', pushy jackass, so suddenly claiming to be an innocent being pushed around by others rings false.


The arbitration demand against Baldwin’s fellow producers claims the star’s contract protects him from any financial responsibility in a slew of lawsuits filed against him, including the wrongful death complaint filed by Hutchins’ widow.
Even without that clause, Baldwin was completely innocent in the “unthinkable tragedy,” according to the filing, which revealed he was paid $250,000 to star in and produce the low-budget western.
“As he had done throughout his career, Baldwin trusted the other professionals on the set to do their jobs,” Nikas wrote.
“The facts make clear that Baldwin is not culpable for these events or failures.”
Those whose directions Baldwin followed included Hutchins herself, the filing stated, calling it “the worst day in Alec Baldwin’s life” that “will continue to haunt” him.
Note: someone asking you to breach basic firearms laws does not exculpate you from breaching said laws.
Additionally, Baldwin would be intimately familiar with the CA film-industry firearm safety protocols, first of which is to never aim a weapon directly at someone else.
His producing this film in NM is an attempt to reduce costs by complying with CA's more onerous laws.
Firearm safety is one area where you should be held responsible if you choose to sidestep or ignore safe handling rules that cost nothing to implement.


Hutchins “directed Baldwin” in the rehearsal scene to “determine how best to angle the camera and what movements Baldwin should make for her to capture the cocked gun that the script had called for,” it said.
“Hutchins described what she would like Baldwin to do with the placement of the gun … She directed Baldwin to hold the gun higher, to a point where it was directed toward her,” the filing detailed.
“In giving and following these instructions, Hutchins and Baldwin shared a core, vital belief: that the gun was ‘cold’ and contained no live rounds.
Firearm safety 101: TREAT EVERY FIREARM AS IF IT IS LOADED.

“Baldwin asked Hutchins whether she wanted to see him cock the gun, as the script required. She responded yes,” the filing stated.
On her instructions, “Baldwin then pulled back the hammer, but not far enough to actually cock the gun.
“When Baldwin let go of the hammer, the gun went off,” the filing noted.
Note: hammer bar safeties are designed to specifically prevent this form of accidental discharge.
The weapon in question, at the time of writing, is believed to have this form of safety.


“As later became known, a live bullet discharged from the gun and struck Hutchins, traveling through her body and striking [director Joel] Souza in the shoulder. Both Hutchins and Souza fell to the ground,” it said.
“No one understood what had happened,” the filing stated of the “panic and confusion” immediately after.
It was only when Baldwin was interviewed by Santa Fe sheriff’s deputies that he saw “a photograph of the object that had just been removed from Souza’s shoulder at the hospital — a .45 caliber slug.
“Baldwin recognized the object as a live bullet, and he finally began to comprehend what had transpired on the set of ‘Rust’ that day,” the filing stated, saying the actor was “shocked.”
But the star took no responsibility for failing to double-check that the gun had no live bullets in it — claiming rookie armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed ordered him not to, saying “it was her job to check the gun — not his.”
“An actor cannot rule that a gun is safe,” the filing said. “That is the responsibility of other people on the set.”
Note: although "an actor cannot rule that a gun is safe" that does NOT preclude the actor checking for themselves!
The idea that Reed "ordered him not to" check is bizarre, because he'd previously claimed that he was given the weapon by the Assistant Director, not the Armorer.
So which is it?


The filing also detailed Baldwin’s initial communications with Hutchins’ widow, Matthew, who allegedly hugged the star and told him, “I guess we’re going to go through this together.”
It included screenshots of text messages showing the pair’s “warm” relationship, with Matthew telling Baldwin he was “very gracious” helping him and his 9-year-old son, Andros.
Baldwin repeatedly said he understood if Matthew wanted to cut ties, but the widower “continuously assured” him he “wished to keep in touch and maintain their … positive and mutually supportive” relationship.
As well as that friendship, Baldwin made an exhaustive effort to contact the Rust cast in the hope of acquiring their support to finish the film,” the filing revealed, admitting no one wanted to.

“He did so both with the intent of honoring Halyna’s legacy by completing her last work and of compensating Hutchins and his son from the film’s profits.”
Baldwin insisted his warm messages continued weeks after his now-notorious TV interview in which he claimed he had not fired the fatal shot, the filing said.
The actor was completely taken aback when the widower gave his own TV interview saying he was “just so angry” at Baldwin’s “absurd” claims.
“The Matthew Hutchins that showed up on the Today show is someone Baldwin had never met before,” Friday’s filing claimed.
Matthew is one of many who have sued Baldwin over the fatal incident, saying he “recklessly shot and killed Halyna Hutchins on the set.”
But his “lawsuit contains numerous false allegations against Baldwin,” the “30 Rock” actor’s lawyer stated.
“Plans to complete Rust and to channel its proceeds into a fund for Hutchins’s and his son’s benefit have unfortunately broken down as a result of the lawsuit and these public statements,” the filing said.
Note: I choose to believe the victim and not the narcissistic psychopath, YMMV.

Some of the others suing him were also initially supportive, according to the filing.
That included script supervisor Mamie Mitchell, who now blames Baldwin for not checking the gun — but immediately after the shooting told him, “You realize you’re not responsible for any of what happened in there, don’t you?,” the filing alleged.
The filing listed a series of mishaps possibly to blame for the fatal accident, none of which were Baldwin’s responsibility, according to his lawyer.
“He didn’t announce that the gun was ‘cold’ when it really contained a live round; he didn’t load the gun; he didn’t check the bullets in the gun; he didn’t purchase the bullets; he didn’t make the bullets and represent that they were dummies; he wasn’t in charge of firearm safety on the set; he didn’t hire the people who supplied the bullets or checked the gun; and he played no role in managing the movie’s props,” the filing said.
“At this point, two things are clear: someone is culpable for cambering the live round that led to this horrific tragedy, and it is someone other than Baldwin,” the filing said. “Baldwin is an actor.”
Note: "he didn’t check the bullets in the gun" is NOT exculpatory. I don't know why they keep bringing this point up.
 
That's totally gross (Alec Baldwin blaming the victim, reply bug). That kid gets to grow up without a mom now while this fat drunk retard is telling everyone that it was her fault. He can blame her all he wants but I don't think that'll stop the financial ass raping that is about to happen to him.
That SOB Baldwin tried to pull the Chewbacca defense or the "Jussie Smollett defense".
The local DA is a Soros funded activist, that's what the fuck.
That local DA should get a big wake-up call and smell the coffee before someone said to that DA "it would be sad if something bad happen to you".
 
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