Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Something tells me that image isn't 100% legit.

Either way, I wouldn’t be shocked if the same pro gun control advocates will pull a doublespeak and try to guilt trip Hollywood into seriously doing this.

Imagine a new world where all guns are replaced with sticks and rocks.

 

[DMX DA GOAT]

Don't worry, he's not responsible though because even though he pulled the trigger, even though he was a producer, even though people walked out due to working conditions and he was on board with continuing to film, even though he had one of if not the loudest, strongest voice on set due to his position of power via fame, money, and job title, even though he pulled a fucking trigger of a gun in what was most likely a rehearsal or set up shot, he's not responsible because he is sad now. was an anti trumpper. And to make fun of him in anyway is bothsideism, whatablutism, and being plain mean or rude.

Don't let redditfags fool you. There's only one reason these zoomers know who Baldwin is and it ain't Glengarry Glen Ross.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

One thing to remember to, is that this is a WESTERN, meaning he was using a revolver.

Since they usually use dummy bullets in the chambers, and mechanical action, not blowback, is what turns the cylinder, this could have been part of the problem.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Either way, I wouldn’t be shocked if the same pro gun control advocates will pull a doublespeak and try to guilt trip Hollywood into seriously doing this.

Imagine a new world where all guns are replaced with sticks and rocks.

The point is that the tweet was dated one year in the future.

 

[byuu]

"Filming underway" does not mean filming at the time of the accident. Thank you for confirming you have no idea how this industry works, or basic English comprehension.

I'm not a native speaker but "is underway" means currently being done, doesn't it?

So was Chauvin. Involuntary manslaughter is a thing for a reason.

Which requires gross negligence.

IN THIS FUCKING THREAD

Prop Gun Fired by Alec Baldwin Contained a ‘Live Single Round,’ Says IATSE Local 44

The incident took place October 21 at the Bonanza Creek Ranch in Santa Fe County. It is under investigation.

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Live round does not mean shrapnel or loose item. Hell, it's been reported Alec was saying "Why would they give me a hot gun".

Ah, I didn't actually read that article. I saw the "hot gun" thing but Baldwin could've easily mistaken a misfiring blank for a live round.

Yes... because he pulled a trigger for no reason because most likely they were doing a rehearsal shot

Who in the world would expect the prop to have a live round or any round in it that you are given for a rehearsal?
That's a monumental fuck up by the prop department, not Baldwin for doing what he's paid and instructed to do.

That's ignoring how he could be directly or indirectly responsible for hiring a non union prop master who didn't check whether or not a real gun was loaded.

Sure, he could be otherwise responsible for it. Never said otherwise. But it doesn't have anything to do with him pulling the trigger or aiming at the camera.

You're seeing people sperg about dumb posts like yours that are either completely ignorant of common gun safety or any basic knowledge of how filming works or sperging about people white knight in for an asshole on kiwi farms of all places.

Nigger, it's an actor. They don't know anything or can do anything. One extremely averse to guns even. He's reliant on the crew making sure everything's safe and every bullet is accounted for.
He's not a trained shooter, where exactly he was trying to aim at and where the bullet lands are two different things.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

The point is that the tweet was dated one year in the future.

>one year in the future
Have to get ready and prepared while the stove is hot

 

[X Pac Heat]

https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1202767070515073024?s=20

lol

 

[p4ddys]

 

[Battlecruiser3000ad]

Blaming Baldwin for murder is right, just, and good. Because it's funny.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Blaming Baldwin for murder is right, just, and good. Because it's funny.

Right? You'd think some of these faggots have never been to the internet before, let alone this website.

 

[Getting tard comed]

I'm not a native speaker but "is underway" means currently being done, doesn't it?


Which requires gross negligence.


Ah, I didn't actually read that article. I saw the "hot gun" thing but Baldwin could've easily mistaken a misfiring blank for a live round.


Who in the world would expect the prop to have a live round or any round in it that you are given for a rehearsal?
That's a monumental fuck up by the prop department, not Baldwin for doing what he's paid and instructed to do.


Sure, he could be otherwise responsible for it. Never said otherwise. But it doesn't have anything to do with him pulling the trigger or aiming at the camera.


Nigger, it's an actor. They don't know anything or can do anything. One extremely averse to guns even. He's reliant on the crew making sure everything's safe and every bullet is accounted for.
He's not a trained shooter, where exactly he was trying to aim at and where the bullet lands are two different things.

K you're dishonest AF. You claimed he isn't responsible at all. People are saying he potentially is responsible for multiple things due to his producer status and pulling the fucking trigger.

Filming underwayeans people are working on a movie, not necessarily filming at that specific moment. In fact I've never heard anyone say filming underway when talking about actually filming in that exact moment. On set they would say 'rolling'. In an article they would say 'filming' and not mention underway at all. Because underway would be an unnecessary modifier to the action of actually filming.

Continuing to use a dangerous weapon without the proper safety people present and checking things is gross negligence.

Go be a sperging newfag with someone else.

 

[Foltest]

Even if he doesn't get charged at all, he still get the punishment that, for the rest of his live, he will need to live with that he shot and killed her.
Doesn't matter it was an accident. The guilt he will go through will fuck him over.

 

[Snekposter]

It's NM. Gotta do some plinking between scenes to kill time.

Either that or booze or meth. And Alec Baldwin is too patrician for meth.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Even if he doesn't get charged at all, he still get the punishment that, for the rest of his live, he will need to live with that he shot and killed her.
Doesn't matter it was an accident. The guilt he will go through will fuck him over.

I don't know. I have a hard time believing actors feel anything tbqh.

I suspect he will continue to blame whoever handed him the hot gun for the rest of his life.

 

[We All Came For CWC]

Perhaps for starter pistols. Many guns used in big action movies are "blowback" pistols. Blowback meaning they used compressed gas to blow back the bolt/slide and sometimes even eject a prop casing. It is then up to the digital effects crew to add in muzzle flashes and what not. Considering this is a lower budget production, they were probably hoping to get an actual muzzle flash in camera. Blank firing rounds usually are made with actual cases meant to hold a bullet. A small charge of smokeless powder are loaded into the case along with a firing cap. On top of the layer of powder goes some sort of wadding; could be as simple as a bit of fabric. On top of that fabric is filler, could be paper, sand, something light weight that will lose velocity quickly once it leaves the barrel of the firearm. The most important part of all this is the way the casing is crimped closed. Think of a blank firing riund as a mini pipe bomb with one end compromised.

When loaded and fired, pressure builds up in the case and finds the path of least resistance expanding the crimped edge and rushing out the barrel. There are many places in this instance where things can go wrong. If the blank cartridge wasn't crimped correctly or the metal was fatigued at the bends, it could snap off during the explosion and be sent down the barrel. Basically firing fragmentation. Considering the circumstances, they probably didn't have a safety supervisor on set which lead to the accident. Could be, no one planned to have a gun fired at the camera, spur of the moment creative choice, etc.

For folks who need a visual or curious, this is the video I used to learn quick draw blanks. Same applies to any other blank pistol cartridge.

Yup the crimped end of blank cartridges are sometimes visible in close ups, like this shot of a cycling Desert Eagle from The Matrix

 

[DoomsdayElite]

 

[byuu]

K you're dishonest AF. You claimed he isn't responsible at all.

You're just not reading what I actually wrote. What I objected to is that he's responsible just by handling the gun.
I've clearly acknowledged that he could be responsible for other reasons before.

Filming underwayeans people are working on a movie, not necessarily filming at that specific moment.

Which doesn't mean they were necessarily rehearsing either.
It doesn't make sense to me that they were rehearsing because why would they give him a loaded gun, even if it were just a blank.
That's completely unnecessary unless the cameras are actually rolling.

Continuing to use a dangerous weapon without the proper safety people present and checking things is gross negligence.

I'm very doubtful that Baldwin micro-managed the whole crew and has any idea about the credentials of some prop guy.
But all that stuff is just hypothetical at this point. And it doesn't really have anything to do with the argument I'm making.

Go be a sperging newfag with someone else.

Okay, Gator.

 

[beautiful person]

Go be a sperging newfag with someone else.

But they joined 16 months before you did.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Okay, Gator.

Go back to reddit, furfaggot.

 

[Smug Cat]

This thread is exceptional. No one is simping for him or any actor here, just some tards are so blinded by their hatred of anything or anyone that doesn't share the same politics as them and don't like to be called out on it. I saw the same shit when the left lost it over Chris Pratt going to church for no reason or at anyone that has ever shared a meal with Trump.

Not saying don't make jokes about Bladwin or anything like that. As others have said he has a rep for being a huge cunt and this doesn't change that but don't act like a screaming political tard who doesn't care about facts.

With the info we have now Alec Baldwins didn't do anything wrong in the act of shooting the gun, it seems to be the prop master's fault, however, he is also the producer so he could have some fault within that area of his role. An investigation needs to happen clearly.

Yeah, being an irreverent shitposter is great. Being an unfunny MATI seriousposting partisan sped is pathetic. Learn the difference, it could save your life.

'Rust' crew describes on-set gun safety issues and misfires days before fatal shooting

At least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to production managers about gun safety on the set.

www.latimes.com

Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.

The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours and pay, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.

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Labor trouble had been brewing for days on the dusty set at the Bonanza Creek Ranch near Santa Fe.

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The cinematographer who was accidentally killed, Halyna Hutchins, had been advocating for safer conditions for her team, said one crew member who was on the set.

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“Corners were being cut — and they brought in nonunion people so they could continue shooting,” the knowledgeable person said.

There were two misfires on the prop gun on Saturday and one the previous week, the person said, adding “there was a serious lack of safety meetings on this set.”

Edit: If this info is true, this is devastating to Baldwin who was the film’s producer,
Now back to your normal tard wrangling of Kiwi experts talking past each other.

Oh shit someone's head's gonna roll for this one. I mean someone's head was gonna roll anyway, obviously, but good lord.