Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another


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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.
 
What does Baldwin's stance on gun control have to do with anything? He was firing blanks on a film set. Either side would really have to struggle to find any broader 2nd amendment implications to that situation. Harping on it reeks of clickbait from people desperate to get attention from pointing out LIBRUL HYPOCRISY.
Pretty sure it's been reported that it was loaded with a live round, which I believe cause no way a blank has enough energy to propel anything through one person and into another. But yeah I see what you mean, it's not really a 2A issue just an unfortunate accident caused by negligence on the props crew and Baldwin himself.

The fact that Baldwin is anti-gun makes it more ironic than anything I suppose. I find it strange that most of Hollywood hates gun ownership when most of them make their living glorifying guns and violence.
 
The fact that Baldwin is anti-gun makes it more ironic than anything I suppose. I find it strange that most of Hollywood hates gun ownership when most of them make their living glorifying guns and violence.
Also the fact that Hollywood and leftists thinks guns are dangerous murder tools, you would expect them, more than anyone, to handle guns very carefully with 100% accountability instead of putting in charge a 22 year old ethot who only got the job because of daddy and even so, cares more about ewhoring than firearms.

Maybe this would be a good opportunity for leftists to learn about proper gun handling from the evil conservatives?
 
What does Baldwin's stance on gun control have to do with anything? He was firing blanks on a film set. Either side would really have to struggle to find any broader 2nd amendment implications to that situation. Harping on it reeks of clickbait from people desperate to get attention from pointing out LIBRUL HYPOCRISY.
They are simply judging Baldwin based on his own oh so well established standards. Judge not lest ye be Judged in turn. Troll not lest ye be trolled. Etc.

Personally I suspect Baldwin's legal rish comes not from actually pulling the trigger, but from being a producer on and direct on site witness of this criminally unsafe production.
 
Also the fact that Hollywood and leftists thinks guns are dangerous murder tools, you would expect them, more than anyone, to handle guns very carefully with 100% accountability instead of putting in charge a 22 year old ethot who only got the job because of daddy and even so, cares more about ewhoring than firearms.

Maybe this would be a good opportunity for leftists to learn about proper gun handling from the evil conservatives?

That is very optimistic. Most would dodge the blame and not be capable of self-introspection.
 
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What does Baldwin's stance on gun control have to do with anything? He was firing blanks on a film set. Either side would really have to struggle to find any broader 2nd amendment implications to that situation. Harping on it reeks of clickbait from people desperate to get attention from pointing out LIBRUL HYPOCRISY.
Gun Control advocates do two things:

1) Demand everyone else--and the law--be responsible for safety if not bans outright.
2) Grandstand on the bodies of victims for points.

Now everyone's dunking on Alec Baldwin for his blatant hipocrisy and being above the law. Accident or not, he should be in prison awaiting trial. He's not because he's rich and famous and paid off everyone who could press charges.
 
The fact that Baldwin is anti-gun makes it more ironic than anything I suppose. I find it strange that most of Hollywood hates gun ownership when most of them make their living glorifying guns and violence.
Just another thought. If Hollywood leftists hate guns so much and want gun control, then don't they have the responsibility to not promote guns and gun violence in movies?

I'm using their own leftist logic here. We need to censor and cancel Dave Chapelle because his words inspire physical harm to trannies. Therefore we need to ban gun violence movies because they inspire gun harm to society.

How would the leftist mental gymnastics this?
 
What does Baldwin's stance on gun control have to do with anything? He was firing blanks on a film set. Either side would really have to struggle to find any broader 2nd amendment implications to that situation. Harping on it reeks of clickbait from people desperate to get attention from pointing out LIBRUL HYPOCRISY.
hoes hate baldwin and are conflating what they want to be true with whats actually true. Niggas be writing whole-ass MATI essays about something something respectability politics or whatever as if that has anything to do with anything
 
The only thing indicating he intentionally pointed and shot at anyone was that completely fake screencap from 4chan. Remember to check your sources.

Right, the lack of any sort of sources and carefully framed screenshot made me think that it was unverified at best.

Still, there are just too many unanswered questions:
1. Even if Baldwin is 100% innocent (from criminal charges), where's the footage that proves it?
2. Why aren't Reed and Hall being arrested and questioned?
3. Souza has reportedly been treated and released, despite the initial reports of him being in critical condition. Assuming that there's no hijinks going on like he's actually dead (or comatose) and reports of him being released are just cover-ups (either way, no photos of him are available post-accident), he would know almost better than anyone what was going on. Where is he, and where is his testimony?

At this point, I'm leaning toward the "official" story because even a theory that Souza's death would be covered up creates more holes.
 
Pretty sure it's been reported that it was loaded with a live round, which I believe cause no way a blank has enough energy to propel anything through one person and into another. But yeah I see what you mean, it's not really a 2A issue just an unfortunate accident caused by negligence on the props crew and Baldwin himself.

The fact that Baldwin is anti-gun makes it more ironic than anything I suppose. I find it strange that most of Hollywood hates gun ownership when most of them make their living glorifying guns and violence.
They hate gun ownership for the plebs, not themselves or their guards. I'm sure some hate it for themselves but also taken part in movies that glorify gun use as liberal soccer moms call it.

Gun Control advocates do two things:

1) Demand everyone else--and the law--be responsible for safety if not bans outright.
2) Grandstand on the bodies of victims for points.

Now everyone's dunking on Alec Baldwin for his blatant hipocrisy and being above the law. Accident or not, he should be in prison awaiting trial. He's not because he's rich and famous and paid off everyone who could press charges.
Given how much free shit Biden has given the Talichads while banning importation of Russian steel ammo. They make the best propaganda pieces against themselves.

Gun control advocacy originated from the days of the Civil era and reconstruction when white Democrats denied and banned blacks from owning them. It was originally based on "white supremacy" since liberals and woketard progressives are obsessed with it. The modern day irony that niggers and sheboons are the biggest supporters of gun control. As far as rap culture and gangsta culture goes, they are whores and selfish cunts.

They decided to change strategies since the white man and women realized getting cucked by "nigger, nigger, nigger" was hurting them and their ability to buy guns as well.

Gun Safety is the latest ideological war that originates from UC Berkeley and the UC system generally these days. Big name rich cunts like Bloomberg or the current state government of California is funding it.

They not in it for convincing people no more, it's for keeping their opponents cucked and weak from a psychological sense. They know better than anyone else majority of gun deaths is nigger on nigger and most of those niggers use illegally bought pistols.
 
1. Even if Baldwin is 100% innocent (from criminal charges), where's the footage that proves it?
because according to this they were in the process of setting up the cameras and weren't actually filming when it happened.

Some relevant bits: "The filmmaking team was lining up its camera angles and had yet to retreat to the video village, an on-set area where the crew gathers to watch filming from a distance via a monitor. Instead, the B-camera operator was on a dolly with a monitor, checking out the potential shots. Hutchins was also looking at the monitor from over the operator’s shoulder, as was the movie’s director, Joel Souza, who was crouching just behind her."
 
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What does Baldwin's stance on gun control have to do with anything? He was firing blanks on a film set. Either side would really have to struggle to find any broader 2nd amendment implications to that situation. Harping on it reeks of clickbait from people desperate to get attention from pointing out LIBRUL HYPOCRISY.
Because it highlights that those who clamor loudest for ‘gun control’ know the least about actual guns. And how can anyone claim to know what the ‘right thing’ to do is on any subject when they’re clearly uninformed, inexperienced and ignorant?

I’ve used blanks and live rounds and I know enough to know that you never take anyone’s word for it that a weapon is ‘safe’. Also that you don’t, under any circumstances, point a weapon at something you don’t want to shoot. Shame that know-it-all Baldwin doesn’t even have that level of firearms knowledge and competence.
 
Even if Baldwin is 100% innocent (from criminal charges), where's the footage that proves it?
If I had a nickel for every time I saw an armchair prosecutor on this board demand proof of innocence, I'd have a lot of nickels.

Proof of innocence is not something a defendant ever needs. It helps their case if they can provide it. But it's up to the prosecutor to prove their guilt, not for the defendant to prove their innocence. Very often it's not possible for a person to prove their innocence because they don't have a continuous record of everything they did leading up to an event. Presumption of guilt is a tool for tyrants.
 
Right, the lack of any sort of sources and carefully framed screenshot made me think that it was unverified at best.

Still, there are just too many unanswered questions:
1. Even if Baldwin is 100% innocent (from criminal charges), where's the footage that proves it?

IF such footage exists, I'd assume the investigators have seen it, and at least have it in their custody. Why do they need to release it? Why do we need to see it? The public has no right or expectation to see everything involved in a criminal investigation that's ongoing. If it does exist and is pertinent to any future trial, we'll see it eventually at such trial or it'll eventually be leaked by someone, so just be patient.

2. Why aren't Reed and Hall being arrested and questioned?

I'm fairly certain they are being questioned, they don't need to be arrested to just talk to them and they don't need to be in jail unless you think they're a continuing threat to anyone or unlikely to show up if summoned to court, which is the same right you or I also have.

3. Souza has reportedly been treated and released, despite the initial reports of him being in critical condition. Assuming that there's no hijinks going on like he's actually dead (or comatose) and reports of him being released are just cover-ups (either way, no photos of him are available post-accident), he would know almost better than anyone what was going on. Where is he, and where is his testimony?

Back to the top, I'm sure he has given testimony, to the police. Again, why do they need to publish it? They're the ones who decide if a crime occurred, not public opinion. You seem to be of the persuasion that unless an investigation into a possible crime gives real-time access to everything they're doing to the public, something is fishy. Surely you know that's not how an investigation works (100% transparency).
 
Because it highlights that those who clamor loudest for ‘gun control’ know the least about actual guns. And how can anyone claim to know what the ‘right thing’ to do is on any subject when they’re clearly uninformed, inexperienced and ignorant?

I’ve used blanks and live rounds and I know enough to know that you never take anyone’s word for it that a weapon is ‘safe’. Also that you don’t, under any circumstances, point a weapon at something you don’t want to shoot. Shame that know-it-all Baldwin doesn’t even have that level of firearms knowledge and competence.
Many arguments for gun control are based on accidental deaths caused when people who are uninformed/inexperienced/ignorant about guns or in general (such as children, the intoxicated or the mentally impaired) have access to them...the point being we need to limit the overall proliferation of guns in society and make guns harder to obtain to prevent these incidents.

Baldwin could use his own accident to advocate for gun control and it would be entirely consistent with his previous positions. It's stupid, but it wouldn't make Baldwin a hypocrite or inconsistent.
 
The fact that Baldwin is anti-gun makes it more ironic than anything I suppose. I find it strange that most of Hollywood hates gun ownership when most of them make their living glorifying guns and violence.
And let's not forget then most of Hollywood have their private security guards and/or live in gated community.

On a off-topic sidenote, Alec producing a movie with the title "Rust", a title like that resumed his career and it could have been a sort of bad omen of things to come for him.
 
Many arguments for gun control are based on accidental deaths caused when people who are uninformed/inexperienced/ignorant about guns or in general (such as children, the intoxicated or the mentally impaired) have access to them...the point being we need to limit the overall proliferation of guns in society and make guns harder to obtain to prevent these incidents.

Baldwin could use his own accident to advocate for gun control and it would be entirely consistent with his previous positions. It's stupid, but it wouldn't make Baldwin a hypocrite or inconsistent.
I can already see him faux-weeping for the public "I too know what it's like to accidentally kill someone, you don't want to feel how I feel, so ban guns today"
 
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I wouldn't know, I think it is irrelevant information though.
Have you never seen Diagnosis Murder? The dude always kills or get killed for insurance money. This Camera lady was having an affair with baldwin, she was going to tell his wife. He takes out a massive insurance policy on the film to go tits up, kills everyone, film goes tits up, he shorts the stock and makes bank.

Am i doing reddit crime solving right?
 
Many arguments for gun control are based on accidental deaths caused when people who are uninformed/inexperienced/ignorant about guns or in general (such as children, the intoxicated or the mentally impaired) have access to them...the point being we need to limit the overall proliferation of guns in society and make guns harder to obtain to prevent these incidents.

Baldwin could use his own accident to advocate for gun control and it would be entirely consistent with his previous positions. It's stupid, but it wouldn't make Baldwin a hypocrite or inconsistent.
Gun control has many different types of advocates, recently in Illinois, the state supreme court ruled against Cook County for charging extra taxes on guns because "muh gun violence" which while true, they attack the AR-15 over handguns that are used in majority of gang shootings.

That is probably the safest argument that gun control advocates could make, but they went full retard after Sandy Hook and dedicated their time to banning the AR-15 to the point some states ban the pistol grips, which makes gun hand handling terrible, if they really want safety. People can manage with a fixed stock and any other muzzle devices are allowed except flash hider but getting rid of pistol grip and forward vertical grips for a firearm that is super ultra rare used in crimes while the Ruger Mini-14 gets a pass despite firing the same round and currently has murdered more feds than the AR has.

Gun Control advocates tying themselves to commies and rich cunts like Bloomberg, who have armed security guards, that backed or financed the riots and "defund the police" as well as leaving behind free firearms for America's enemies rather than destroying them, makes them look like shills and shows its all about class warfare.

The average normie would have no issue with gun safety classes and that reducing guns could theoretically lead to safer neighborhoods. But there are a lot of wealthy business interests and racial grifters who don't want that. On top that, banning the pistol grip when some outlaw, who probably has decided on a one way trip to the grave, isn't going to care and go out in a blaze.
 
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