Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Gar For Archer]

You said:
"By your logic the 2 accidental discharges of weapons is set can not be blamed on Hannah because" this has nothing to do with this incident. And the Armourer is the armourer, she can not be held accountable for who fires a gun but what is in the gun, yes.

Even if he knew of the 2 misfires or safety issues his responsibility is to have an armourer on set that ensures it is seen to. That is what they did. Incidents happen. You have a person who has the sole responsibility of preventing this and you pay a lot for it - she failed.

I'm not holding the driver of my car accountable if a mechanic screws up the car and my wife dies driving it. I'm gonna go after the mechanic. Even if my wife said "the car feels kinda funny".

You've got to separate the legal negligence from all other factors.

Was Baldwin's negligence on the set as a producer responsible for this death? No. His negligence can not be shown to extend to this event. If he had fired the Armourer and they used the guns, sure thing. If they had not followed protocol and had the gun called "cold", sure.

But they did follow protocol. Negligence can not be proven. But we will see how this plays out in court - but I highly doubt the DA will file charges on the company or Baldwin over this, so I doubt it will ever play out in a court room.

If there is a case for the DA to go orator Baldwin, I am not seeing it with the data supplied so far. But we will wait and see.

From all publicly available info, it’s clear they didn’t follow protocol.

Those guns should never have been just laying there unattended on a cart. The AD should never have called the gun “cold” without personally checking it. Baldwin should never have accepted the gun from the AD in the first place because an AD is not an armorer and this not authorized to handle a weapon on set, much less give that weapon to someone else after claiming it’s cold without even checking it. And they shouldn’t have been shooting with guns when the armorer apparently wasn’t even on set. Yes, Reed is at fault for being an incompetent thot, but Baldwin is at fault for not following the proper safety protocol, and just taking a gun from someone who was not authorized to hand it to him, which is standard protocol a seasoned actor like Baldwin who has filmed with guns in the past should have known about.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I wonder if that guy, a conspiracy theorist named Benjamin Fulford, lurks sometimes on KF? Because he posted the following about Alec Baldwin.

Worldwide arrests, executions as Khazarian mafia takedown accelerates – Weekly Geo-Political News and Analysis

benjaminfulford.net

Well CIA sources are telling us the widely publicized shooting by movie director Alex Baldwin of Halyna Hutchins with a “prop gun,” is a signal. Let us connect some dots:

Alec Baldwin starred in the film, The Hunt for Red October, wherein he helps hunt down a Russian nuclear submarine that was originally docked in Murmansk on a Soviet base in the Arctic Circle. Hutchins grew up in Murmansk on a Soviet base in the Arctic Circle “surrounded by nuclear submarines.”

She was a Ukrainian spy whose husband is a lawyer defending the Clintons.

The set where she was shot is about 30 minutes from Epstein’s 33k sq ft Zorro ranch in New Mexico — the same one that had computer rooms the ‘size of houses’ to spy on guests including Prince Andrew, when he allegedly stayed for a week there.

Dave Halls, the assistant director who handed the gun to Baldwin, was the second unit’s first assistant director on The Crow: Salvation, the sequel to the film in which Bruce Lee’s son Brandon Lee was killed in an on-set firearms mishap in 1993. Just a coincidence?

 

[DrunkJoe]

If what I read about it going through the first victim and hitting the director that is a live round. That is not a fucking prop gun.

 

[TowinKarz]

Again,

Baldwin is not at fault.

Not to the degree of murder, Murder requires the element of malice aforethought: you wanted to kill a person and your actions resulted in their direct death. No good non-tinfoil evidence currently exists that he wanted to kill anyone on set, so Murder is out the window.

But, possibly recklessness that causes a death (invol manslaughter) in lieu of that? Certainly. Manslaughter means you didn't mean to kill a person, but acted with such personal disregard of safety and consequence that a death was going to happen.

He's certainly at fault for running a sloppy set that had so many holes in protocol that an apparent live firearm slipped through them all and into his hands.

However, happening on a set? That makes proving all of these elements very dicey from a legal standpoint, after all, actors by their nature must behave in reckless ways and do things that if performed off a set would be crimes. Like waving a gun in someone's face. So it'd be darn hard to build a criminal case out of this that could survive all the way to the end and get a conviction, especially because I would assume he'd bring his war chest of lawyers to the fight.

I neither like nor hate him, but, from what has been reported, and assuming it's all true, there's more than enough here to justify criminal charges on him.

Will they HAPPEN?

Probably not.

Will he be CONVICTED if they do?

Probably not.

Will a devastating wrongful death civil suit with years of litigation follow and haunt his name forevermore?

Oh HELL yes.

Does he deserve it?

I dunno, I have no dog in the fight for his reputation.

That's just an opinion the Court of Public Opinion makes, and will continue to make as its rulings are given in perpetuity.

But to say "he's not at fault" from a legal standpoint just isn't true, or rather, hasn't yet been determined by those with the power to do so.

Yes - but only if you were aware of an issue with THAT machine.

If procedures were followed on a machine and it malfunctions, if you have an expert that is in charge of that machine and says it is safe, it falls on them; not the boss.

Unless it comes out the boss hired an unqualified "expert" to oversee the machine, like one with only a few hours of training on a similar machine, none on that actual machine, and was letting other people fiddle with it when they weren't on the clock? And wasn't yanked off it and replaced when word of that kind of unprofessional behavior got back to the boss? Then the boss is indeed liable for the situation. Just putting another person in charge and washing your hands of it doesn't work if that person isn't competent and you know they aren't competent.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I mean if he was aware of the issues, he had the power and should have used it to stop production until the issues were fixed but if he wasn't aware I really want to know why.

I think we all know why, it's a rhetorical question at this point.

Did he just not care and didn't want to know about what was going on at sets, or did he not care about the issues despite being aware or was there a cover-up to avoid letting the higher-ups know.

Yes.

Funny, a better question is, would you idiots be as "upset" at Trump like you are with Baldwin if he was in this situation?

A strawman argument doesn't make a better question; but yes, I hold everyone to the same standard. And for someone like Trump (or even Baldwin), I hold to a higher standard; which isn't the same thing as the double-standard you're trying to use as a gotcha.

 

[Captain Wetbeard]

Gun Control advocates do two things:

1) Demand everyone else--and the law--be responsible for safety if not bans outright.
2) Grandstand on the bodies of victims for points.

Now everyone's dunking on Alec Baldwin for his blatant hipocrisy and being above the law. Accident or not, he should be in prison awaiting trial. He's not because he's rich and famous and paid off everyone who could press charges.

Yeah, a witness quoted him saying "how about I shoot the both of you" right before he shot them, but the police are treating that as a joke for some reason, if one of us said that and shot someone it would automatically be a murder 1 charge

 

[TowinKarz]

Yeah, a witness quoted him saying "how about I shoot the both of you" right before he shot them, but the police are treating that as a joke for some reason, if one of us said that and shot someone it would automatically be a murder 1 charge

Unless it was a movie set.... where people say things like that.

Or if you were holding what you thought was prop gun and were being sarcastic.

Maybe they're treating it as a joke because it probably was?



It's not an injustice he isn't in jail right now, get a grip.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Unless it was a movie set.... where people say things like that.

TIL you're allowed to joke about shooting people on movie sets, it's super fucking common.

lmfao you Pedowood jockies are hilarious. I doubt Baldwin really even said that but the fact you guys would act like that's completely normal or okay within the circumstances is hilarious.

 

[Calandrino]

Should we put the lead producer in the electric chair?

if it could save even one child's life

 

[Particle Bored]

You have clearly never worked a real job in your life if you're going to compare this to factory accidents and still claim Baldwin has 0 fault

Also obviously knowing nothing about corporate safety policies and cultures. Some companies are going to be more lax than others, but I've worked in laboratories and manufacturing facilities where safety protocols are taken so beyond serious as to be fucking obnoxious, but their "days since last accident" board is up to four digits.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Free Baldwin.

Sue the thot.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Also obviously knowing nothing about corporate safety policies and cultures. Some companies are going to be more lax than others, but I've worked in laboratories and manufacturing facilities where safety protocols are taken so beyond serious as to be fucking obnoxious, but their "days since last accident" board is up to four digits.

Safety is no joke, better to be annoyed by seemingly overbearing protocol than to skirt it and end up losing an arm or burning half your face off.

 

[Mullti Port RDRAM]

I'm probably gonna get slapped for this, but what about using a non-firing gun, pantomiming a bullet shot off camera, and painting a muzzle flare in post? I know the kickback probably influences the performance somewhat but if its this risky, why are we still doing it? Is it cheaper to use a blank-loaded gun?

 

[spiky]

>Welcome to New Mexico, 47. Your target, renowned kinomatographer Halyna Hutchins, can be found on set preparing the daily shoot for the day. With famous actor Alec Baldwin at the helm of production, you should expect a heightened and more observant security presence, but certainly nothing you haven't handled before. Good luck, 47.

>THAT... is Halyna Hutchins, acclaimed director of photography, and covert operative for Providence. Stay sharp, 47.

>Choosing a prop gun to incriminate the lead actor? Interesting choice as always, 47. Alas, I dare say a premature retirement for both parties is in order.

>The target is down, and not even by your own hand! Excellent work, 47. The money is being transferred now, it's time to make your exit... stage left.

 

[Art Kassul]

is there any more
not too many archives since she(lol like she uses those pronouns) scrubbed herself of the web

Many of her twitter posts are archived, linked to further back in this thread. Also a couple of videos of her dancing on Tiktok.

 

[Post Reply]

I can't help but feel a little sorry for the guy since they had someone they imagined was competent and checked the guns to make sure they didn't have live ammo...

He hired a Tik-Tok thot because of her daddy's name. One look at her should have told anyone with two braincells to rub together to keep her at least 500 feet away from any firearm, loaded or not. Putting her in charge of the firearms was an act of insanity.

 

[MadStan]

For those who actually believe that Baldwin will be really charged with negligent homicide.

 

[DrunkJoe]

Well Alec Baldwin is a gun hating hypocritical faggot that does not the have the proper respect for a dangerous tool. He has spent his life hating on guns and never learned to respect them. He ignored saftey protocols. Just following the 4 rules that anyone who handles a gun should know this would not have happened. He is a complete tool that lacked the common sense to handle a fire arm. He has spent years ridiculing gun owners. He deserves man slaughter. His carelessness caused 1 death and 1 injury. He failed to check his weapon, he failed to follow the 4 rules. If I hand a weapon to any of you fucks trying to make excuses for him and you did the same level of blatant carelessness you would be charged with manslaughter.

 

[TowinKarz]

TIL you're allowed to joke about shooting people on movie sets, it's super fucking common.

lmfao you Pedowood jockies are hilarious. I doubt Baldwin really even said that but the fact you guys would act like that's completely normal or okay within the circumstances is hilarious.

I'd hardly call myself a Pedowood Jockie, considering I haven't watched a new release full length movie in about 20 years....... or so?

And haven't had a TV in the house since 2010?

I'm not simping for Hollywood, I'm merely pointing out that I don't think joking around on a movie set with a gun you think is a harmless prop is an automatic criminal offense or that it's somehow odd it happened here if it did, I'm sure people joke around on set with the props all the time.

He's gonna have to cut one hell of a check to fix the mess he created by goofing around, to be sure, but I'm not convinced it was a criminal act versus just criminal negligence.

 

[Calandrino]

I'm probably gonna get slapped for this, but what about using a non-firing gun, pantomiming a bullet shot off camera, and painting a muzzle flare in post? I know the kickback probably influences the performance somewhat but if its this risky, why are we still doing it? Is it cheaper to use a blank-loaded gun?

imo guns shouldn't be portrayed in films at all, this incident should be enough to convince any reasonable person. Pretty much any movie could easily be re-written to not include guns, or to have a positive, anti-gun message. Like, in a Terminator movie, the robot could say something like: "my programming indicates that primitive chemically-propelled projectile guns are too unsafe and unpredictable even for a T-800 series cybernetic organism". Then he would use solar- or wind-powered lasers. Or imagine how powerful it would be if e.g. Thanos came out and said, "I might kill half the universe, but I'd never use a gun. Those are for cowards."