Alexandra Wallace and Asians in the Library

[Rick Nekieta]

13 years ago, a UCLA student named Alexandra Wallace was one of the early cases of nationwide infamy for racial insensitivity and was one of the first nationwide "cancellations." She uploaded a video to Youtube where she complained about Asian students (who she described as "hordes of Asian people, which is fine" (lol) being disruptive in the library where she mimicked them with some Chinese sounding gibberish "Ching chong ling long ting tong" (again, lol). She also spoke about frustrations of their extended families flooding the campus on the weekends to do laundry and visitation, crowding full dorms with "the 20 people they took with them." (this woman is a gold mine) Alexandra is conventionally attractive and shows a great deal of cleavage in her vid, contributing to a bimbo like persona which only intensifies the comedy of the situation. It also bears noting that the incident in which all the Asians answered their phones in the library had something to do with some natural disaster in Asia that left many homeless, so her complaint was not well received.

Internet virality was a relatively new phenomenon for normies at this time and being "cancelled" for simply offending sensibilities was a pretty rare and new thing. The world has seen this story play out a thousand times with a thousand variations, only the names have changed. So, as I was thinking about our dear friend Alexandra a few minutes back, I got to thinking. If Alexandra's video is upsetting, shouldn't the parties who inflict it on others be seen as harm causers? If the content of the vid is allegedly harmful, shouldn't spreading it be some sort of offense in itself? If one takes the position that she owes her classmates an apology, THAT IS WHERE IT SHOULD END. I don't agree with that position, but she surely doesn't owe an apology to some blue haired freak in Portland.

Once upon a time, simply saying "okay, it was a bad joke, I'm sorry if I upset people, I'll be more careful in the future" was considered a reasonable resolution to these matters. If we live in a new age where sticks allegedly can break our bones, wouldn't that apply to the people who spread the hurt fee fee words without regard to their motives?

Alexandra apologized and this was before there was a track record of evidence that apologizing only encouraged the harassment. She dropped out because of her infamy and who knew what happened to her. A sane world would have just laughed and moved on. This was near the dawn of the dystopia that we live in and only are seeing marginal changes to this now.

I really pulled an excessive tl;dr here, but if Alexandra's words were hurtful, didn't third parties do 10,000 times the damage she did on her own?

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

 

[Rick Nekieta]

I mean, I already tl;dr'ed my post, so I might as well put an addendum in. It bears noting that at that time, a lot of response videos simply went tit for tat and fought fire with fire by way of ridiculing her. If only implicitly, this implies there was still a large segment of the population who believed in meeting objectionable ideas with ridicule and parody, rather than power and hard consequence. In the old days, where our response was just to clown on the perceived offender, we kind of let humor be the arbiter of truth. A lot of the vids in response to her were legitimately funny, regardless of position, because they did not appeal to a sense of cruelty and censorship. Alexandra is one of the last cases where there was a mixed response. Now, it is just transparent life ruination and that's fucked as hell. I really wonder how our dear friend Alexandra is doing these days.

 

[Tablet County]

"Alexandra Wallace and the Asians in the Library" sounds like a YA novel.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

here is the video OP was talking about since he is too niggerlious to post the video himself.

Spoiler: youtube link

 

[Achtung Bitter]

Good woman, tells it like it is.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

here is the video OP was talking about since he is too niggerlious to post the video himself.


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Spoiler: youtube link

I am a nigger's nigger, the niggerest nigger to ever nigger, the omninigger, a nigger among niggers.

Added in edit: Thank you for picking up my slack Rich.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Internet virality was a relatively new phenomenon for normies at this time and being "cancelled" for simply offending sensibilities was a pretty rare and new thing. The world has seen this story play out a thousand times with a thousand variations, only the names have changed. So, as I was thinking about our dear friend Alexandra a few minutes back, I got to thinking. If Alexandra's video is upsetting, shouldn't the parties who inflict it on others be seen as harm causers? If the content of the vid is allegedly harmful, shouldn't spreading it be some sort of offense in itself? If one takes the position that she owes her classmates an apology, THAT IS WHERE IT SHOULD END. I don't agree with that position, but she surely doesn't owe an apology to some blue haired freak in Portland.

Once upon a time, simply saying "okay, it was a bad joke, I'm sorry if I upset people, I'll be more careful in the future" was considered a reasonable resolution to these matters. If we live in a new age where sticks allegedly can break our bones, wouldn't that apply to the people who spread the hurt fee fee words without regard to their motives?

This is the most infuriating thing about these cancel culture hate mobs. There is no path to redemption with these people, no matter how sincere your remorse they will not forgive you. And in fact expressing remorse just invites further attacks. Lindsey Ellis is maybe the most flagrant example of this.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

This is the most infuriating thing about these cancel culture hate mobs. There is no path to redemption with these people, no matter how sincere your remorse they will not forgive you. And in fact expressing remorse just invites further attacks. Lindsey Ellis is maybe the most flagrant example of this.

I found a Reddit entry from 4 months back the same night I wrote this. Apparently she got married in 2015, her husband is a Christian musician and she has aspirations of being a fitness influencer. She's 34 and living in CA somewhere. She's doing okay by all metrics, but she started having to go by Allie and her husband's last name because her original name is in *rolls eyes* eternal infamy. The person with the Reddit entry acted as if she didn't deserve to live and treated her like the personification of evil itself. Dollars to donuts this same Redditor would talk about "the power of rehabilitation" when some troon were getting out of the pen for child sexual assault and would extend that party mercy, but Alexandra is the face of pure evil (dumb). The sadism and glee in trouncing on people like Alexandra is truly sick and truly evil and needs to be trounced. These people want people like Alexandra broke, homeless and going the way of the 41%. It's truly evil.

I watch this vid every few months to remind myself of what we lost. Alexandra's rant is hilarious and, for all intents and purposes, the last moment of enjoyability in her life for years to come. I have considered many times how different the world would be if there were an equally sizable contingent of people saying "now wait a god damn minute, let's not get carried away here" at that time. In a sense, we all failed Alexandra and each other.

 

[TruffleSpark]

The person with the Reddit entry acted as if she didn't deserve to live and treated her like the personification of evil itself. Dollars to donuts this same Redditor would talk about "the power of rehabilitation" when some troon were getting out of the pen for child sexual assault and would extend that party mercy, but Alexandra is the face of pure evil (dumb). The sadism and glee in trouncing on people like Alexandra is truly sick and truly evil and needs to be trounced. These people want people like Alexandra broke, homeless and going the way of the 41%. It's truly evil.

There's always an Anna Slatz tweet for something like this:

We have to get her to write a book on liberal psychology because she understands it so well.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

There's always an Anna Slatz tweet for something like this:
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We have to get her to write a book on liberal psychology because she understands it so well.

Slight adjustment, that's leftist psychology as liberalism is a more moderated position with actual principles. Old school liberals, who were true believers in free expression even if they did advocated for extensive social services and enhanced government spending, actually believed in ideological diversity and protections for the unpopular line of dialogue. New school leftists hold the old school liberal in contempt for, what they perceive as, such binding attitudes. Liberals believe in mixed economies, voluntary compliance to requests for compassion and robust protections for speakers of unpopular ideas. The 90s liberal was a whole different animal that would engage you with civility. Take note that the more moderate wing of the Democratic party used to hold majority influence and now it is led by the radical leftists. I had robust disagreements with the old liberals, but never contempt or hatred. I despise these new leftists who unironically follow the wordsof Marx and Alinsky.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Slight adjustment, that's leftist psychology as liberalism is a more moderated position with actual principles. Old school liberals, who were true believers in free expression even if they did advocated for extensive social services and enhanced government spending, actually believed in ideological diversity and protections for the unpopular line of dialogue. New school leftists hold the old school liberal in contempt for, what they perceive as, such binding attitudes. Liberals believe in mixed economies, voluntary compliance to requests for compassion and robust protections for speakers of unpopular ideas. The 90s liberal was a whole different animal that would engage you with civility. Take note that the more moderate wing of the Democratic party used to hold majority influence and now it is led by the radical leftists. I had robust disagreements with the old liberals, but never contempt or hatred. I despise these new leftists who unironically follow the wordsof Marx and Alinsky.

Marx had a huge amount of disdain for what he called the "lumpenproletariat", which is to say members of the working class who exhibited socially destructive behavior (thieves, drug addicts, beggars, pimps, rapists, and just general degenerates). The traditional Marxist view of these people as that are essentially traitors to the working class and have to be purged if the workers are ever to organize a successful revolution.

I think the modern left wing obsession with protecting the most socially destructive elements of society has to be understood more as a weird hybrid of liberal compassion for the oppressed combined with a sort of pseudoreligious belief that the society we exist in is innately evil and therefore anyone who helps uphold it is in some way evil themselves and deserving of punishment. You get infinite grace and forgiveness for the lumpens because they are victims of an evil society and therefore not responsible for their actions (and in fact by being socially destructive they are striking a blow against the normal functioning of that evil society, which therefore makes them revolutionaries), but no mercy for productive people who live normal lives because their position as productive members of an evil society means they are already tainted by sin.

The irony is that by and large the victims of lumpens tend to be the working class. They're the ones who have to put up with tranny sex pests and homeless drug addicts on the train. The more middle/upper class leftists who by and large are insulated from the consequences of enabling socially destructive people. All of this has added up to left wing parties slowly but surely losing the working class who were their traditional main base of support and instead largely drawing support from middle class professionals. And of course they learn no lessons from this other than that workers must be evil and stupid to not vote for them and therefore deserving of the punishment of having to endure mentally ill drug addicts in their day to day lives.

 

[Mister Fister]

he irony is that by and large the victims of lumpens tend to be the working class. They're the ones who have to put up with tranny sex pests and homeless drug addicts on the train. The more middle/upper class leftists who by and large are insulated from the consequences of enabling socially destructive people. All of this has added up to left wing parties slowly but surely losing the working class who were their traditional main base of support and instead largely drawing support from middle class professionals. And of course they learn no lessons from this other than that workers must be evil and stupid to not vote for them and therefore deserving of the punishment of having to endure mentally ill drug addicts in their day to day lives.

You mean the useless middle class professionals. Clickmouse types.

 

[Grub]

Not that I don't generally agree with the premise of your op but the problem with your example video is that she lacks comedic timing and delivery so it comes across as more ranting and ignorant than anything else and even before cancel culture was a thing people tended to shun people who go off on ignorant sounding rants. She could have probably said pretty much the exact same thing just worded slightly differently and nobody would have cared if she didn't sound like an angry ignorant retard and I say this as someone who understands and has experienced exactly what the fuck she's talking about with Chinese people.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

Not that I don't generally agree with the premise of your op but the problem with your example video is that she lacks comedic timing and delivery so it comes across as more ranting and ignorant than anything else and even before cancel culture was a thing people tended to shun people who go off on ignorant sounding rants. She could have probably said pretty much the exact same thing just worded slightly differently and nobody would have cared if she didn't sound like an angry ignorant retard and I say this as someone who understands and has experienced exactly what the fuck she's talking about with Chinese people.

The reason I enjoy this as comedy is because it is an organic rant and not necessarily intended as comedy. She has bimbo-ish mannerisms (I do believe this is probably one of her bad moments and isn't this bimbo-ized 24/7, I could be wrong) and the fact that this is a sincere rant only adds to the comedy because it is not the result of effort. The way she said it (the closing portion of "okay, yeah, the tsunami sucks, but take it outside please") made her an active target (to a ridiculous degree) but a reasonable person would have just laughed and moved on. Alexandra made a few errors, sure, but the response was just diabolical to its core. The fact that she said "ching chong ting tong ling long" in an Asian affect without considering that some people might get upset is funny as hell, regardless of what was going through her mind. I'll take candid and offensive over two-faced any day. I was one of the few voices calling for tempered responses at the time, but needless to say I was just the old man yelling at the cloud at that point (even though I wasn't even close to middle aged at that time). The fearlessness with which Alexandra was speaking shows how different things were, because it WAS a genuine surprise at that time that something like that went so viral. Justine Sacco (a left leaning lady who simply made a joke regarding HIV in South Africa that was not well received) and Brandon Eich (former Firefox CEO who donated to preserve marriage as opposite sex only once in the aughts) were also benchmark incidents for the modern cancel culture.

Added in edit: One of my favorite aspects of this video is the sing-songy tone in which she says "in the li-berry" It's a small thing, but it goes a long way.

 

[Grub]

The reason I enjoy this as comedy is because it is an organic rant and not necessarily intended as comedy. She has bimbo-ish mannerisms (I do believe this is probably one of her bad moments and isn't this bimbo-ized 24/7, I could be wrong) and the fact that this is a sincere rant only adds to the comedy because it is not the result of effort.

I dunno. I guess I've just met enough people like that over the years she just seems pretty typical for that type of girl. Blonde, kinda dumb, goes on dumb ignorant rants when annoyed. They're pretty dime a dozen.

The way she said it (the closing portion of "okay, yeah, the tsunami sucks, but take it outside please") made her an active target (to a ridiculous degree) but a reasonable person would have just laughed and moved on. Alexandra made a few errors, sure, but the response was just diabolical to its core. The fact that she said "ching chong ting tong ling long" in an Asian affect without considering that some people might get upset is funny as hell, regardless of what was going through her mind

People saying shit like that used to be common. Honestly any of that could have been from a 2000's comedy movie and none of it would have been out of place or questioned. I guess I just don't really find anything she said to be all that shocking or anything because for the most part a lot of people I know still talk like that. My old boss used to go up to the McDonald's drivethru and make weird noises at the pajeets when they tried to talk to him almost every day. Like last year.

But then again, I checked out of a lot of media and culture quite a long time ago now so I tend to base things more on the people I actually see and interact with and truthfully none of them are woke or progressive so maybe i'm just lucky and I live in a bubble where people aren't crazy.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

I dunno. I guess I've just met enough people like that over the years she just seems pretty typical for that type of girl. Blonde, kinda dumb, goes on dumb ignorant rants when annoyed. They're pretty dime a dozen.

People saying shit like that used to be common. Honestly any of that could have been from a 2000's comedy movie and none of it would have been out of place or questioned. I guess I just don't really find anything she said to be all that shocking or anything because for the most part a lot of people I know still talk like that. My old boss used to go up to the McDonald's drivethru and make weird noises at the pajeets when they tried to talk to him almost every day. Like last year.

But then again, I checked out of a lot of media and culture quite a long time ago now so I tend to base things more on the people I actually see and interact with and truthfully none of them are woke or progressive so maybe i'm just lucky and I live in a bubble where people aren't crazy.

Alexandra Wallace was a rather pivotal moment away from the permissiveness of the oughts. You're absolutely right to say that before AW, a lot of people talked like her openly and it was not seen as offensive. AW's subsequent hate mob marked a changing of the times. It was absolutely unprecedented for online scandals to hold "forever" status where people archived their "misdeeds" for years. In the oughts or the 90's, if someone got bent out of shape over AW's rant, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONES TO BE TOLD TO SHUT UP, SIT DOWN AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU DID. Capital letters justified. The 90's and the oughts had their wokies, but they were rightfully ostracized and marginalized, whereas AW's fate signaled a changing of the guards. We are just seeing signs of the madness being pushed back again now. Just two months ago, we had a tranny as a four star general in a uniformed service (non-military) AND as Director of Health and Human Services. We are just subsiding from peak wokeness now.

AW is long forgotten in the cultural landscape, but I revisit her story a few times a year because that was the day we, as a society, failed to keep the lunatics at bay.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I remember that girl, it actually happened when I was in college. One of my sociology professors actually showed the video in class and was encouraging us to mock the girl in the video and be glad that she had to basically drop out of public life. Even as a hyper Emily back then I remember thinking “this is immature, but isn’t this a bit harsh?”

The irony is that by and large the victims of lumpens tend to be the working class. They're the ones who have to put up with tranny sex pests and homeless drug addicts on the train. The more middle/upper class leftists who by and large are insulated from the consequences of enabling socially destructive people. All of this has added up to left wing parties slowly but surely losing the working class who were their traditional main base of support and instead largely drawing support from middle class professionals. And of course they learn no lessons from this other than that workers must be evil and stupid to not vote for them and therefore deserving of the punishment of having to endure mentally ill drug addicts in their day to day lives.

Marx believed (correctly imo) that since lumpens did not have a stake in getting the fruits of their labor nor a way to withhold labor power they were an inherently counter revolutionary force, easily manipulated by the bourgeoisie and fascists during times of social upheaval. He uses the phrase “bribed tools of reactionary intrigue.”

This weird impulse to do social work for what is properly understood as a counter revolutionary force is what happens when leftists move away from class analysis. Kind of fits into how the modern left is so extremely socially liberal even though it’s not really compatible with Marxism imo and people like Lenin actually criticized the polygamist Redditors of their day.

Just agreeing with you, basically.

 

[Rick Nekieta]

I remember that girl, it actually happened when I was in college. One of my sociology professors actually showed the video in class and was encouraging us to mock the girl in the video and be glad that she had to basically drop out of public life. Even as a hyper Emily back then I remember thinking “this is immature, but isn’t this a bit harsh?”

That is fucking disgusting and that person should be made to pick on someone their own size, not students they have power over. The dogpile on Alexandra was disgusting and abhorrent.