🐱 All Are Welcome in Middle-Earth.

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Content warning: Discussions of racism/quotes of racist comments included.

Amazon’s Lord of the Rings series, The Rings of Power, has only even dropped one trailer and a handful of images, and people have already been losing their minds with criticism.

Some of it I empathize with (“Why does Daddy Bezos have to have his hands in everything I love?”). Some of it I could take or leave (“Why don’t the female dwarves have beards?”). And some of it is not only premature, but so needlessly aggressive (“They’re gonna RUIN THE LORE! They’re DESTROYING MY MEMORIES and RUINING MY LIFE”).

And then there’s the racism.​

From the expected “not racist but” comments: “I’m just saying, Tolkien said the elves were fair, it’s not racist to say they should be light-skinned, I’m just going of of the established lore.”

To the anti-diversity comments: “Why do they have to bring woke culture into it? It’s just forced diversity. God, just make your own stories if it’s such a problem!”

To the blatant racism — I’ve unfortunately seen multiple comments saying things along the lines of “Keep Middle-Earth white,” or throwing hate at the non-white actors for having the audacity to take part in the series.

The sad thing is, if you’ve been paying attention to the world we live in — like, even a little bit, just a tiny occasional glimpse while your head is pulled out of the sand for a breath — this doesn’t really surprise you. And if you read any of those comments and go, “Well what’s wrong with those? That’s not racist, they have a point.”…then my friend, you probably have not been pulling your head out of the sand.

And it goes beyond the awful comments (of which, nonetheless, there have been entirely too many). There is an active fight from racists to keep people from speaking out against racism, acknowledging that the racism is happening, or even from being welcoming to non-white fans.

You can’t argue, as many do, that it’s just a “difference of opinion,” when the racists are actively working to silence anyone who welcomes POC to the Lord of the Rings community, but that’s what’s been happening. Notably, one of my favorite TikTok creators has been having videos mass-reported and deleted for weeks for making such controversial statements as, “Everyone is welcome to this fan community, regardless of race, whether as a fan or as an actor/creator.”

Reports of similar things happening to others who make the same kinds of sentiments have come up a few times since.

Listen, I’m a long-time fan of Lord of the Rings.​

It’s been a huge part of my life for over 20 years — since I was only about 11 years old. I still have the replica of The One Ring that got for Christmas in 2002. I care deeply about the lore, have read the books every couple years since middle school, have read The Silmarillion multiple times, and own several books about the history, architecture, weapons, cultures, and languages of Middle-Earth.

And any way you cut it — from a fandom perspective, a lore perspective, a “true to the source material” perspective , etc.— there is no excuse for this racism, this adamant resistance to allowing people who aren’t white to see themselves reflected in one of the most influential fantasy worlds in film and literature.

The lore doesn’t justify the racism. And even if it did, that doesn’t mean we as fans should too.​

We have to be willing to criticize the things we love.

I don’t think any of us would disagree that Middle-Earth is beautiful. Its history is rich; its languages impressive; its geography vast and varied. It is full of music, magic, adventure. It’s a place that feels like home, where even in the darkest times, we know that good will triumph. Where even when victory doesn’t feel like we expected, and the future is complicated and uncertain, there’s still joy and light and comfort.

That does not exempt that world from criticism.

The Lord of the Rings wasn’t perfect. It wasn’t fully representative. Hell, there were hardly any women in it, and that’s been a source of criticism for at least as long as I’ve been a fan, and almost certainly longer. Sometimes the omissions of Lord of the Rings are obvious.

That isn’t an excuse to stand by them. It’s all the more reason to expand the world, to keep building on what we love and sharing it with others.

It’s not forced diversity. It’s looking at the world around you — the very real world full of very real people — and recognizing that every single person in it deserves to have a place that feels like home the way Middle-Earth does for many of us.

Maybe some people are right. Maybe a case could be made that people of color simply did not exist in Tolkien’s original vision of Middle-Earth. It’s unlikely, but let’s roll with that for a minute.

We have carried our love of these books, films, fandoms, and communities for decades. We have shared it with our loved ones, with the next generation. We as fans have made it a world that endures through the changes of our own by forwarding its themes of perseverance, compassion, and a determination to heal the world — themes as old and immortal as the Elves.

It doesn’t matter what the racial demographic of Middle-Earth was. The author wasn’t perfect. There, I said it. So while the “purity of the lore” argument is flimsy at best, it’s also not something the fans should cling to in defiance of the core themes of the story that are as relevant as ever. There’s no room for gatekeeping, especially rooted in racism.

Whether as fans or actors or something else; whether to enjoy the story, to add to it, to make art about it, or even to take part in it; everyone has a seat at the table — for breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies, luncheon, afternoon tea, dinner, and supper, if they want it.
 
Tolkien wrote a multicultural, multiracial middle-earth where all the heroes had white skin. I know that makes most progressives’ heads explode- b-b-but all white people are identical doncha know and also race doesn’t exist.
Well, if you present them a society of either

a. Single race but different opinions or
b. Different races but same opinion,

We know well which one they will choose and why they think it's better.



It's cultural appropriation. The LOTRs is based on European history and mythology. It's White through and through.
Being European ain't an argument any more:
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LOTR is an allegory

“I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.”​

 
What I love the most is seeing these oh so moral and good people saying that it doesnt matter what Tolken would have wanted, cuz he is dead and they can interpretate it however they prefer.

These people are evil, just evil. I have never seen such a disrespectful nihilistc asshole bunch like them. Imagine if I said the same about George Floyd or any of their little martyrs ?


I warned LOTR fans that the woke would come from them sooner or later after Star Wars.

But you didnt believe me, WHY didnt you believe me?!

Happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy....

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Why is it always the whitest of white people that write this kind of garbage?

Because they have it so good that they gotta make up issues

Also she got them crazy eyes...I have seen them so many times I can spot them from a mile away.
 
Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s immigration policy?
 
If you don't follow the lore then it's not Tolkien. It might be Tolkien inspired and good on its own but it isn't Tolkien and fans want Tolkien.

Real world racial diversity just isn't part of Middle Earth. Middle earth is diverse with various cultures and creatures but skin colors of that diversity is all pale. The reasons for this are well know. Tolkien got inspired by Northern Europian folk lore, myths, languages, geography and history, so all white peole. He wrote the story for native people of England to make up for the lost native myths lost to time and foreign influences, so to specific group of white people. In every single way it makes sense that these characters are all white.

Lord of Rigns is fundamentally white story and that's okey, regardless of race you can still like it and get inspired by it. Journey to the West is fundamentally Chinese story and it still has inspired games, comics, movies and shows all over the world.

If you took a novel written by brown people and recast it with whites they'd have a fit.

The article complains about gatekeeping but it seems to me as if they are lining up to do just that.

Pretty much all the controversy I see on this is from the woke side. It's Cowboy Bebop all over again. It just sounds like damage control. I'm wondering how many of these authors are just paid shills creating controversy for a show that the producers know isn't really up to par. Thay way when no one likes it they can blame it on racism by pointing to these articles and saying white men sabotaged it.
 
Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s immigration policy?
Thats applying the same political filter these people are doing, except coming from the other side

At the end of it, people just want their escapism
 
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Not even gonna read it, from the past 3 weeks of Amazog defenses alone I will guess the jist of this rag's content. "All are welcome in Middle Earth, especially those who were not in Tolkien's specifically crafted Anglo-Saxon mythology." That about right? All it takes is one round of the Turnabout game to see the agenda. You'll never see Hebrew mythologies/creation stories niggered by PedoWood.
 
Why is it always the whitest of white people that write this kind of garbage?
Funny you should say that, because here's a black man talking about the show; with citations.
 
This is like beginner-level Tolkien fandom. And at the end he lists a bunch of books Tolkien never wrote--he's probably referring to those little books by the notorious David Day--and he gets the capitalization of Middle-earth wrong. Maybe not a fake fan, but definitely a superficial one.
Hang on, I've got Day's Tolkien Bestiary, and I've never heard of his notoriety. Can you give a summary?
 
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Why is it always the whitest of white people that write this kind of garbage?
White guilt. A lot of them believe in whites being better but they feel guilty about it. It makes a lot more sense when you approach it from that angle.

If they were color blind they wouldn’t act the way they do. If they believed that people in other ethnic categories could be on par with them they wouldn’t support the measures they do.
 
Because they have it so good that they gotta make up issues
God Emperor Leto really nailed that one didn't he?

Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s immigration policy?

You just gonna pretend like you didn't steal that from GRRM?
 
Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s immigration policy?
Martin was going for something with a historical bent but he wasn’t initially. Previously he said that in fantasy everything should be bigger. In that regard, his works are arguably higher fantasy than Middle Earth in the third age.
God Emperor Leto really nailed that one didn't he?



You just gonna pretend like you didn't steal that from GRRM?
Eh it’s a copypasta now I guess.
 
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