Amadeus (2025) -- Sky - Mozart's dad Tiger Mom'd him so hard he turned Asian

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I am presenting this without comment, just making sure you're all aware of it. Apparently it will be a 5-part miniseries dropping in December on Sky. I'm not sure how one can view it in the States.


I have Many Thoughts about this but I'll hold fire until I see how much interest there is in this thing.
 
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This is a triple whammy of gay retarded bullshit. The first two you already know, it's a nigger aristocrat in 18th century Austria.
The third?
His fucking hair.
It's clearly meant to be a powdered wig, except they forgot the fucking powder, because nigger. Gutta purserve muh ebbony lookz muhfugga, can haff dem crackas messin wif ma KUNG hairzzzzzz. wypipo don season dey chicken but season dey hair LAIMOA.

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And then there's this.
 
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This is a triple whammy of gay retarded bullshit. The first two you already know, it's a nigger aristocrat in 18th century Austria.
The third?
His fucking hair.
It's clearly meant to be a powdered wig, except they forgot the fucking powder, because nigger. Gutta purserve muh ebbony lookz muhfugga, can haff dem crackas messin wif ma KUNG hairzzzzzz. wypipo don season dey chicken but season dey hair LAIMOA.

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And then there's this.
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Yes, the raceswapping is clearly absurd. Not just the Asian Mozart and the random wogs in the background, but casting as Salieri the pastiest Englishman who ever lived. That is a little more forgivable in that northern Italians are quite fairskinned, the surviving portraits of Salieri aren't generally all that swarthy, and numerous Englishmen did just fine as Salieri onstage (including Ian McKellen), but F. Murray Abraham just made such an impression it feels like a step backward. Also, Bettany is so white it feels like he's still got some of the White Vision makeup on, which makes one suspect they want a "evil whitey vs. genius minority" subtext that is nowhere in the original work.

But oh dear God it's the writing I'm worried about. We don't hear much of it in the trailer, but Mozart's "Oh yuck, who wrote this?!" is so on the nose, so unsubtle, so tawdry, that I think a disaster of major proportions is in the offing, lunatic racial casting notwithstanding.
 
I don't care if they raceswap fictional characters because I view every version of a story as a new and distinct universe, but I get mad as hell about them raceswapping historical figures. Mostly because they're only doing it to erase/piss off white people. Sure, white people used to play Egyptians, Indians and Arabs back in the day, but they at least tried to emulate them, appearance -wise. Hell, Jews played all three and looked pretty convincing at it. But now you can't have a historical drama without Bixnoodius Cumberbatch the third playing some pasty English medieval king or some Shaneequa playing Joan of Arc. I dare them to make a docudrama about the life of Mohammad and fill it with black drag queens.
 
Vect said:
This look like dogshit. The original is great.

MAKE SOMETHING NEW
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I'm not normally one to watch the kind of movie the original was.... but it's actually fucking fantastic.
Don Giovanni was a shaking portrayal, and to know it was filmed in the very same theater Mozart conducted in was pure mirth.
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Hell, Jews played all three and looked pretty convincing at it.
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The old Amadeus literally had a Jew playing pretend as an Italian and he won an award for it.
 
Pokemon Conquistador said:
I don't care if they raceswap fictional characters because I view every version of a story as a new and distinct universe, but I get mad as hell about them raceswapping historical figures.
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I blame Bridgerton.

Brigderton is an woke Series with black/asian/indian people in old english aristocracy. It's garbage but it has it's fat, woke, dumb audience. They made queen Charlotte black because they are hideous anti-white woke ideologoues.
 
Sinner's Sandwich said:
I blame Bridgerton.

Brigderton is an woke Series with black/asian/indian people in old english aristocracy. It's garbage but it has it's fat, woke, dumb audience. They made queen Charlotte black because they are hideous anti-white woke ideologoues.
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I've read a bit about this new Amadeus, and apparently it's not merely a remake but a "reimagining" of Peter Shaffer's play and the screenplay he did with Milos Forman, and I think any Kiwi worth their salt knows what an ominous red flag that word is. That being the case, if you absolutely had to make Mozart Asian -- and per my subtitle for the thread, the domineering presence of Leopold and his constant disappointment in Wolfgang despite the latter being one of the most profoundly gifted composers who ever lived, you could actually lean into Asian Mozart really hard for comedy's sake if nothing else -- then why the fuck not just set it in 2025? It's not like Amadeus is anymore historically accurate than any of Shakespeare's plays. Update it to a modern setting and cast whoever you like, if racelifting is that fucking important to you. Just tell a story we can believe in, not one that's very obviously been okayed by HR.
 
Oh hell no. One of the worst things to do is to inaccurately portray a real life historical. If he ain't Asian, don't cast one to play one of the most famous composers in history.
 
The thing that annoys me is that the whole Mozart-Salieri rivalry was a myth for the most part. They competed for jobs, but they were cordial to each other. So, the og movie (and the play is based on) plays with this myth for drama which works well for the movie. But for this new movie, making Salieri a white guy while Mozart is Asian, has a political connotation that didn't exist in the 80s movie.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
The thing that annoys me is that the whole Mozart-Salieri rivalry was a myth for the most part. They competed for jobs, but they were cordial to each other. So, the og movie (and the play is based on) plays with this myth for drama which works well for the movie. But for this new movie, making Salieri a white guy while Mozart is Asian, has a political connotation that didn't exist in the 80s movie.
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The myth predates Shaffer's play, first being dramatized in an 1830s Pushkin play that was later adapted into an opera. Supposedly in his dotage Salieri really did claim to have killed Mozart, but even at the time (assuming it happened in the first place) it was attributed to senility. But the salient point is that the play and movie are not even about a rivalry; it's a very-one sided rivalry at best, with the real focus being obsession, envy, and the unfairness of how talent works. In any event it is not at all a 50/50 piece; it is absolutely about the fictional take on Salieri as a figure consumed by obsession and not about the Life of Mozart.

Anyway, the writer of this thing has apparently decided to allay the public's concerns by going the Rian Johnson / Taikia Waititi smartass route, which always bodes well for how good something is going to be.

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