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Between all the messed up shit Nolan did during his rampage, Im surprised almost no one brings up the fact he pretty much forcefully crashed his son into a subway train so he indirectly speed blitz people by having them splat against him. That would easily mess up anyone in Mark's shoes.
I think one of the things that make Nolan's redemption so hard to buy is the fact that a LOT of his pro-Viltrum actions felt very premeditated and, not only that, needlessly creative. He had to legit think "Oh yeah, I'll crash my son against a train and make him kill people by proxy! That'll show him!"
Because you see, Nolan's goal wasnt necessarily to kill people but have Earth submit to the empire so, at least in theory, if that goal could be achieved with as little lives lost as possible, it would be preferable to go that route, especially if he intended on convincing Mark that the Empire would be best for the planet.
Maybe its hindsight (or Kirkmann's shock value driven writing) but Nolan conducted the whole thing in the worst way possible and, again, you can argue the "conflicted" angle but, again, he demonstrated a sadistic level of creativity when it came to kill people and hurt Mark.
It actually becomes a bit immersion breaking that Mark "forgives" Nolan so quickly, hell, his father was THIS close to beating him to death, only stopping when Mark reminded him of something obvious.
I would give the animated series credit if they actually had Nolan still seeking redemption but nearly everyone rejects it because you cant just swipe that massacre under the bus with the "Forgiveness is earned" talk.
Ironically his conversation with Debbie demonstrates that Nolan is still an inhuman alien at his core, one with vaguely human emotions and regrets but he doesnt seem to have a full understanding of the human condition, because if he did, he would know that altho he may fight to defend Earth, he will understandably not be getting forgiveness anytime soon, if ever because ultimately he is the reason people are understandably terrified/hateful of Viltrumites.
Edit: Well, that and the fact he did oust himself when he described Oliver's mother as a "mistake" because thats what he does, he makes up excuses. "Oh no, I didnt get attached, my human wife was more like a pet to me" or "Oh no, I didnt get attached, my bug wife was more like a mistake to me" when he is smart enough to know better, he is just too "above" it all to give a shit so when he is faced with mistakes he cant undo with violence, he just dismisses them by diminishing their worth.
I think one of the things that make Nolan's redemption so hard to buy is the fact that a LOT of his pro-Viltrum actions felt very premeditated and, not only that, needlessly creative. He had to legit think "Oh yeah, I'll crash my son against a train and make him kill people by proxy! That'll show him!"
Because you see, Nolan's goal wasnt necessarily to kill people but have Earth submit to the empire so, at least in theory, if that goal could be achieved with as little lives lost as possible, it would be preferable to go that route, especially if he intended on convincing Mark that the Empire would be best for the planet.
Maybe its hindsight (or Kirkmann's shock value driven writing) but Nolan conducted the whole thing in the worst way possible and, again, you can argue the "conflicted" angle but, again, he demonstrated a sadistic level of creativity when it came to kill people and hurt Mark.
It actually becomes a bit immersion breaking that Mark "forgives" Nolan so quickly, hell, his father was THIS close to beating him to death, only stopping when Mark reminded him of something obvious.
I would give the animated series credit if they actually had Nolan still seeking redemption but nearly everyone rejects it because you cant just swipe that massacre under the bus with the "Forgiveness is earned" talk.
Ironically his conversation with Debbie demonstrates that Nolan is still an inhuman alien at his core, one with vaguely human emotions and regrets but he doesnt seem to have a full understanding of the human condition, because if he did, he would know that altho he may fight to defend Earth, he will understandably not be getting forgiveness anytime soon, if ever because ultimately he is the reason people are understandably terrified/hateful of Viltrumites.
Edit: Well, that and the fact he did oust himself when he described Oliver's mother as a "mistake" because thats what he does, he makes up excuses. "Oh no, I didnt get attached, my human wife was more like a pet to me" or "Oh no, I didnt get attached, my bug wife was more like a mistake to me" when he is smart enough to know better, he is just too "above" it all to give a shit so when he is faced with mistakes he cant undo with violence, he just dismisses them by diminishing their worth.
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