Manosphere Amud - The Balloon Loon, Loveshy Extraordinaire

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You accidentally missed my questions, here they are:
the relationship between wives and husbands? Should women be subject to men? Is marital rape possible? Is interracial marriage OK? Should a woman have a say in who she marries?

1. I don't get this question. I hope husbands and wives have a positive, loving relationship.
2. I think the more rational and capable party should take a leadership position, whichever party that may be.
3. If a husband violently forces himself on his wife without her consent, then I would consider it to be rape.
4. I'd prefer to not have interracial marriages, but if people want to do that then I guess it's their prerogative.
5. Yes
 
Please stop projecting. Nothing I have ever said indicates racism, sexism, or Nazi sympathy. You are assuming that I believe these things only because you are projecting them on to me.



Please stop projecting. I never said any of that.



IQ has both genetic and environmental components. Environmental IQ has been rising because we now have a more intellectually stimulating living environment. Genetic IQ has been decreasing, because it is an objective fact that IQ and fertility are inversely correlated. Right now, it seems like the increase in environmental IQ is outpacing the decrease in genetic IQ (hence the net increase or "Flynn effect"), but how can you say that will always be the case?



Yeah, I can't imagine any reason why the FDA would use criteria other than effectiveness to decide which treatments it scienmagistically makes "official".

1 & 2) We are not projecting we are extrapolating, we have seen this behaviour before not just on the farms but through out history one of the main arguments of Closet Racists is a argument call "It stands to reason" backed up by debunked pseudoscience and personal bias.

3) Not really, non of what you said has a grain of truth in it.

4) Now your just being obtuse, there is a reason drugs are licensed for sale after studys have been performed on them it's to make sure that they are proven to work, we know what effects they have on the human body and to stop people from selling harmful things that have no effect, the only reason homoeopathy isn't banned (I would strongly argue it should be banned for other reasons than I am about to write about in another thread) as all's it is is tap water pesudoscience mumbo jumbo that's perplexingly still around but harmless in what is uses to "treat" people with unlike a lot of herbal and quack treatments that kill people.
 
What are you talking about? My post never referenced your gender or implied anything about it.
Sounds like mansplaining to me cis shitlord truscum.
It's not true unless it can be proven by easily replicable peer-reviewed scientific research.

The fact that most of the institutions that teach said research are government funded has more to do with the economics of high-cost education than any belief that the government has to personally certify the truth.

Besides, what do governments have to gain by suppressing your ability to beautify yourself by shoving condoms up your nose? Are they afraid of being overthrown by the leadership power of a new race of superhumanly beautiful men?



Definitely. That's where the greatest reservoir of human intellectual potential can be found - on forums posting shitty comics about how they can't get laid.
Hahaha I did not say that please don't put his words in my mouth.


Do we still try to rip off the head of a greased up goose while on horse back for sport?
No but we should omg
Do we still think women should get back into the kitchen
Modern liberated women can make sandwiches anywhere they want
Once again, we have stuff that's straight out of the socially conservative "family values" playbook - 'Children aren't being raised in heterosexual nuclear families, this will have terrible consequences!'

Seriously can't you guys just go and vote in a Republican primary or w/e?
Hahaha you got voted down by dubya :lol:
Ask yourself: would you have sex with the people on Sluthate?
This. I can't even read it for very long because the hostility there actually makes me feel bad. Get the fuck away from those guys!
These are all things I would like to address later today, when I get the chance. In the mean time, I will provide you with some reading material.

Note that the forum I'm linking to has a lot of advertisements, so I would suggest installing Adblock if you have not done so already.

1. An explanation of the various forms of "nobilid" features: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ich-phenotypes-contribute-the-most-to-society

2. An explanation of the damaged psychological state resulting from environmental and genetic deterioration: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?164029-SUBHUMAN-SYNDROME

3. A gallery of various Ignobilid phenotypes, arranged into five categories: www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?161569-New-racial-classification-schema

4. A handy reference chart to accompany (3.)
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Well google seems to think all this is nonsense.. Just pictures of you guys trading pictures of fat people and calling them potatoes.
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Oh, I see you're trying to dox me. How about no.
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1. Genetic degradation refers to the trend of lower-quality people (low intelligence, ignobility, psychopathy, criminality, amygdala dysfunction, r-selection, etc.) reproducing at a drastically higher rate than people of higher quality. The result is a gradual replacement of higher-quality genes with lower-quality ones.
This has to do with people in shit situations breeding like rabbits because they're dumb and don't have self control. These are two dumb people breeding, Not women flocking to spread their legs for idiots.
It also has to do with us not leaving malformed incels exposed on the cliffs. I have long advocated this but nobody listens.
I'm talking about Tinder, Nicki Minaj videos, etc.

Tinder works great for good looking guys and it's a blessing to those of us who are shy with limited social access to women. It's bad for the fat faggots who write "hihihihihi ur so baeuteful n i think ur bobs are good 2" to every woman on other dating sites and choke out their inbox .
It will all catch up with us sooner or later. These advancements are just engineering, piggybacking off the work of geniuses of times past. They are not groundbreaking discoveries.
Right the change has been consistently exponential by most metrics since the beginning of history and it is still today. Also we're regularly making new discoveries and we're conducting research now that isn't intended to even pay off for 100s of years which is something we have done very little of in the past. No if we don't kill ourselves or run out of energy things are looking good for humanity.
Maybe if more people died from polio, we would have evolved an immunity to it and then we wouldn't have to inject our kids with mercury.
Untold deaths and lifetimes of disability is preferable to mercury injection. You are not the smart guy you think you are. What you wanna wager that your bachelors doesn't end up to be cs?
Now, fields like mathematics and applied technology are still valid, but any subjective, abstract, or theoretical fields like the humanities and social "sciences" are a bunch of opinions. You're going to college to learn opinions, and they try to tell you it's an objective fact. If anything, I would be MORE hesitant to accept the claims of the academic orthodoxy in fields related to social "Sciences". They are all constructed to confirm their bizarre, irrational "progressive" opinions.
I almost agree but many soft sciences do the best they can, psychology, sociology. Others not so much. Pretty much all the specific social sciences are pretty suspect. Just because it's hard to study doesn't mean there isn't value. Sadly these classes get ruined because idiots use them as ways to graduate when they don't belong in college. You'll see when you get your BA in sociology appreciation.
The Slayerid phenotype is usually degenerate. Dolph is pretty cool, though.
They slayerids look cool slayerid jealousy
Also like how is this not racist?
Getting a certain result on a test does not mean I'm claiming anything.

No I never see anyone say talk about their low or normal scores, you're bragging and you're a fucking idiot cause all those tests tell people they're rocket scientists.
Uh, so does this guy.
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Not seeing your point.
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What we need is an environment that fosters productivity of capable but downtrodden individuals. Where financiers don't fuck us over. Where we can expect to have a solid family.
I see so when are you signing up for the military?
 
the relationship between wives and husbands? Should women be subject to men? Is marital rape possible? Is interracial marriage OK? Should a woman have a say in who she marries?

1. I don't get this question. I hope husbands and wives have a positive, loving relationship.
2. I think the more rational and capable party should take a leadership position, whichever party that may be.
3. If a husband violently forces himself on his wife without her consent, then I would consider it to be rape.
4. I'd prefer to not have interracial marriages, but if people want to do that then I guess it's their prerogative.
5. Yes

Yes marital rape is possible, despite how much you wish it wasn't true a woman has the same rights as you do one of them is to say no.

1) They often do.
2) No relationships are a partnership.
3) Good your learning.
4) Tell me how your not racist again?
 
4. I'd prefer to not have interracial marriages, but if people want to do that then I guess it's their prerogative.

Whilst the concept of Race can somewhat be picked out with genetic markers, most human genetic variation doesn't conform to the concept, you would understand as Race. I would suggest, therefore, that any ideas you might have about interacial marriage leading to 'genetic degeneration' are likely to be wrong. Rememeber in many cases, more genetic variation is a good thing, so the idea that interracial marriages are bad would be wrong even if races were a good measure of genetic difference.

ANOTHER REFERENCE:

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html

Sorry for plugging this thread full of science, I just get a bit annoyed when people post a load of pseudoscientific gobbledegook.
 
I'm going to bring up some things from a few pages ago, because I'd like to see you respond to a few things.

Genetic degradation refers to the trend of lower-quality people (low intelligence, ignobility, psychopathy, criminality, amygdala dysfunction, r-selection, etc.) reproducing at a drastically higher rate than people of higher quality. The result is a gradual replacement of higher-quality genes with lower-quality ones.

2. "Our species" = humans. Homo Sapiens. A good example of genetic degradation was the transition from Homo neanderthalensis to Homo sapiens.
Can you please cite a source that shows that homo sapiens exhibit the above mentioned characteristics as compared to Neanderthals?

Though others have mentioned that Thimerosal is longer used in vaccines, I think it's important to make the point that Thimerosal contains ethylmercury, which does not have the same effects on the human body as methylmercury, which occurs where the heavy metal mercury is found. It's methylmercury's ability to build up in the body that makes it dangerous, a characteristic that ethylmercury does not have. (Source) Thimerosal was never dangerous.
 
Can someone explain how disagreeing with interracial marriage makes someone a racist?

Racism is the belief that some races are inherently superior to others or that some races should rule over or exterminate others. I never once posted anything which implies that I hold these beliefs. All I said was that I would prefer for the races to remain genetically separate and distinct, rather then blending together to form a homogeneous mono-racial unit. You are the one who took this and made the leap to assuming that I think some races are better than others. You are projecting.
 
I'm someone who's studied evolution and genetics to degree level. The amount of fallacies and misuses of words like 'phenotype' in @Amud 's posts, is rather cringworthy.

For one thing, genetic degeneration isnt even a real issue outside of inbreeding scenarios. This clearly isnt what Amud is talking about. Secondly the idea that mankind will 'degenerate' through 'promiscious' sex is ludicrous. One thing worth mentioning is that sexual selection by females is driven by many factors. Many women will choose partners based on these characteristics either subconciously or otherwise in order to maximise evolutionary fitness.

These factors include intelligence, parenting ability and immune system compatability.

Here are some real (peer-reviewed) references:

http://www.federaljack.com/ebooks/Consciousness Books Collection/Wiley - The Nature of Intelligence.pdf#page=269

http://pzacad.pitzer.edu/~dmoore/2002_Penn_Scent of Gen Compatibility (MHC).pdf

http://www1.appstate.edu/~kms/classes/psy2664/Documents/trivers.pdf (Chapter 7).


Tl/dr The idea that women only go for 'chads' is complete fucking bullshit. Amud is an idiot.
Be very, very careful with the Trivers stuff, though. This is old-ass shit from the 70s and there's a reason a lot of people have been quietly backing away from it.

Edit: So, I'm a random idiot participating in an online forum for laughing at even worse idiots, like I get I'm not exactly a credible voice of authority here. But still, raw data or gtfo is probably a good way to go.
 
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3. What we need is an environment that fosters productivity of capable but downtrodden individuals. Where financiers don't fuck us over. Where we can expect to have a solid family. Where we can be educated for free. Where the income scale is meritocratic. Where our culture doesn't involve degenerate sexual videos and dating apps.

@Amud , Can you elaborate on this point? What would this type of system look like? Are there any historical or contemporary examples that at least partially reflect your value system?
 
Can someone explain how disagreeing with interracial marriage makes someone a racist?

Racism is the belief that some races are inherently superior to others or that some races should rule over or exterminate others. I never once posted anything which implies that I hold these beliefs. All I said was that I would prefer for the races to remain genetically separate and distinct, rather then blending together to form a homogeneous mono-racial unit. You are the one who took this and made the leap to assuming that I think some races are better than others. You are projecting.

All humans are essentially the same. Ethnicity is more or less superficial and "race" is just a concept create by people to justify they're dislike of certain kinds of people.

Also, you really like using the word "projection". Ever consider getting a job in a movie theatre?
 
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