Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer

[ToroidalBoat]

In the corner of my eye for a split second, I somehow read "Cobratate" as "Cerebrate" -- a grub-brain-looking creature that directs a brood of the Zerg Swarm in StarCraft...

 

[A Cat in a Minefield]

Andrew Tate was never part of the Alt-right. It had collapsed by the time the brown Muslim got popular. Tommy Robinson wasn't either. He was kept away from it because of his ties to Israel. The movement dubbed the alt-right doesn't mean manosphere which is what Tate is part of.

That he wasn't part of the alt-right might be true to some extent. But he was close with the likes of Candice Owens husband (leader of TP UK), Tommy Robinson, which I definitely would consider alt-right, or at least alt-light, having contact with Trump jr., rubbing shoulders with Farage, and the list goes on. Sure those people are no Owen Benjamin but generally they are considered to have been a part, or at least adjacent to the alt right.

Lauren, Milo and Gavin were there own weird gay side thing to the alt right. Lauren was the closest to it but everyone knew she was a grifter and was sleeping around.

Maybe, maybe not. Many of those rumors have been started by Milo. He isn't known for being an honest guy.

Was it actual rape or does she like being choked and considers it rape after the fact? The whole chapter reads like trolls remorse trying to become relevant again. It confirms the rumours about her sleeping with non-whites while grifting the pro-white sphere. So it confirms a lot about her actual history and not the dramatized version for the book.

" I said no, very clearly, multiple times, and tried to pull his hands off me. He put his arm around my neck and began strangling me unconscious. I tried to fight back. He repeatedly strangled me every time I regained enough consciousness to pull at his arms. I’d prefer not to share the rest. It’s pretty obvious."

I guess you are right. Women getting raped is there fault. It's like rich people that get stabbed and robbed. They were asking for it.

No proof? Repeatedly choked out and raped? I would expect there to be some bruising around the neck, plus evidence of sex, genetic material and maybe seamen if he didn't protect himself from STDs. What country was she in at the time? Western or some shit hole like Romania?

Had she immediately reported it to the police the next day she would have had a good case with evidence.

Also, coming out with her story when it happened might have been rough. But it would have saved more women. The big difference would have been that she had actually filed a police report.... which she didn't do.

Everything you asked/said is addressed in the Substack.

Why didn’t you go to the police? That would be the right thing to do. Why didn’t you go to the hospital? That would be the right thing to do. Ironically, my extreme judgment of others pushed me to make some of the right choices early on. I embraced denial, but deep down I knew what really happened. I reluctantly reached out to the UK authorities the next day, feeling it was the right thing to do, only to be met with indifference. They told me an investigation could only be pursued in Romania, a country where I had been explicitly warned about police corruption. I went deeper into a dissociative state as a result, feeling certain there would never be a resolution.

Attempts to involve Canadian authorities later led to similar dead ends. While I’m sure plenty would like to claim the investigation into Tate is a deep-state operation, if anything, the state didn’t help at all. They honestly didn’t seem to give a shit.

I wasn’t looking to start a legal battle. I was just looking for any interest at all in helping me make sense of what was going on in Tate’s compound in a way that would keep me anonymous. Years passed before Tate’s antics made it onto the radar of Western authorities, due to repeated claims from other women that had nothing to do with me. Eventually a larger U.S. investigation reached out for my assistance, and I provided what information I could off the record.

Equally hard to pass off as mere coincidence is the fact that I went to a women’s hospital and had a report made around a week after the event. The report documented my account of asphyxiation, five years before Vice News would report in 2023 that Tate used the same method on other victims in the UK in 2015. If this were some elaborate ploy for attention, I’d have to be a clairvoyant to have predicted the rise of this man’s profile and his methods before anyone even knew who he was.

Not that anyone wants this kind of attention. No one wants to be a victim, especially not when you come from my political background. I know exactly what’s coming. I’ll be crucified online. I’m not looking for sympathy, and I don’t expect a victim trophy from any side. I’m publishing this simply because it’s the truth and far too few people are telling the truth these days.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to add, that it wasn't even Lauren who first discussed her rape. It was the gay cameraguy that traveled with Tommy who thought it necessary to allude to it to some journos.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

Tate has bragged about slapping a knife out of a woman's hand and violently grabbing her. No, he did not include details about why she was pointing a deadly weapon at him or what happened after.

The guy should not be free, and honestly, I think an old fashioned death by boiling would be more appropriate than prison.

 

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

Tate has bragged about slapping a knife out of a woman's hand and violently grabbing her. No, he did not include details about why she was pointing a deadly weapon at him or what happened after.

Two of his girlfriends are also on record obliquely saying they've seen girls get choked to death.
In other news at one point Andrew Tate was detained by Romanian police in conjunction with the death of a Romanian influencer.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

No proof? Repeatedly choked out and raped? I would expect there to be some bruising around the neck, plus evidence of sex, genetic material and maybe seamen if he didn't protect himself from STDs. What country was she in at the time? Western or some shit hole like Romania?

Had she immediately reported it to the police the next day she would have had a good case with evidence.

Also, coming out with her story when it happened might have been rough. But it would have saved more women. The big difference would have been that she had actually filed a police report.... which she didn't do.

She claims she didn't want to make any noise about it because Australia was refusing her access to the country. So she went completely quiet online while all the evil alt right nazis started a smear campaign about her being a slut and grifting online. Those rumours were going around when she was at her peak because guys were talking about sleeping with her. It wasn't secret that Lauren was an easy lay if you could help her career.

" I said no, very clearly, multiple times, and tried to pull his hands off me. He put his arm around my neck and began strangling me unconscious. I tried to fight back. He repeatedly strangled me every time I regained enough consciousness to pull at his arms. I’d prefer not to share the rest. It’s pretty obvious."

I guess you are right. Women getting raped is there fault. It's like rich people that get stabbed and robbed. They were asking for it.

If you get into a guy's bed and start making out with him you're putting yourself in a bad situation. He is going to try and fuck you. The problem with her story is the previous sentence contradicts what she's saying here. She says she's too wasted and had to be carried to bed but has a clear memory of being choked out that night? Being choked out causes your memory to be blurry, so does alcohol.

Don't travel the world fucking random people, high and drunk in random guys beds then claim one raped you a decade later. Especially when you're naming the current most popular target for click bait anti-right wing media.

That he wasn't part of the alt-right might be true to some extent.

It's completely true, you're dishonestly representing the situation. Andrew Tate got popular in 2022 from what I can find online. The Alt-right collapsed after Charlottesville 5 years before that.

He associated with Tommy Robinson, Alex Jones and others in those circles. They were never part of the Alt-right movement, they were conspiracy news networks that occasionally touched upon pro-white politics. Tate was a PUA kick boxer and that is manosphere. It has cross over with the alt-right but it's a different thing. MGTOW and tradcon larpers hated each other

Do you think the alt-right's pro whites side would welcome in a Muslim? Milo's crowd were seen as trouble because Milo was a known informant, a homosexual and would try to cause drama and stab people in the back. He tried to move in after Gamergate and built up relationships with the weird Jewish grifters. The people you named everyone else avoided because they were showing their arseholes on live streams or talking about fucking teenage boys.

Lauren is trying to use Tate's name to drum up PR. If she fucked him willingly or not I don't know. I do know "I was raped by Andrew Tate and now I've changed my political views" is a good way to get media attention for your new book. And Lauren and her associated history makes it hard to believe a thing she says. She didn't have to make evidence of her rape happening but the timing is too suspicious. She is exactly what the media wants her to be and she's savvy enough to know that.

 

[Mound Dweller]

She was literally married to an FBI agent and chose him over being an Internet-person nothing she ever says or has said should be taken seriously, she was around (((those people))) though which means the raping possibly credible if in anyway actually substantiated.
inb4; it wasn't rape-rape, oh wait:

That's the rape story. She got wasted and then got into bed with a guy and started to respond to his advances. I

Bish literally said no but it somehow isn't rape?
It's nothing that should ever stand up in court but it's just what we already knew about the swarthy raper; he rapes.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Bish literally said no but it somehow isn't rape?
It's nothing that should ever stand up in court but it's just what we already knew about the swarthy raper; he rapes.

I don't believe she remembers the encounter if she was in the state she says she was in. I think it's Lauren trying to rebuild her media career by calling an old hook up rape. It's too commercially presented.

 

[Mound Dweller]

I don't believe she remembers the encounter if she was in the state she says she was in. I think it's Lauren trying to rebuild her media career by calling an old hook up rape. It's too commercially presented.

She's 100% a grifting slag alright but that doesn't make her account of what she says happened any less believable; it's 100% in character for how taint acts and presents himself afterall, do you not think he'd do it? I do.
She's never coming back anyway, her thing was being blonde and pretty and based but having a half chink muttbaby has seen that off, nevermind the MARRIED AN FBI AGENT part lmao.

 

[A Cat in a Minefield]

If you get into a guy's bed and start making out with him you're putting yourself in a bad situation. He is going to try and fuck you. The problem with her story is the previous sentence contradicts what she's saying here. She says she's too wasted and had to be carried to bed but has a clear memory of being choked out that night? Being choked out causes your memory to be blurry, so does alcohol.

Yes, she put herself into a bad situation. So? Does she therefor deserve to get raped? Also, you can be wasted, have to get carried and still remember stuff. Not as clearly but you not always just have a blank spot in your memory.

It's completely true, you're dishonestly representing the situation. Andrew Tate got popular in 2022 from what I can find online. The Alt-right collapsed after Charlottesville 5 years before that.

True, it collapsed before Tate's rise, but Tate had connections way before his rise to popularity, with figures in this circle. True, he belongs more to the manosphere and is not alt-right, but he was deeply connected to many, many people in the alt-right. He set himself up to swoop in and fill the void, just the way he did.
Also, Tommy was financially and politically heavily supported by the alt-right. Sure he had his own motives and political aspirations, but the people he surrounded himself with were alt-right.

Lauren is trying to use Tate's name to drum up PR. If she fucked him willingly or not I don't know. I do know "I was raped by Andrew Tate and now I've changed my political views" is a good way to get media attention for your new book. And Lauren and her associated history makes it hard to believe a thing she says. She didn't have to make evidence of her rape happening but the timing is too suspicious. She is exactly what the media wants her to be and she's savvy enough to know that.

I don't think it matters one bit. There have been rumors about her being raped by Tate out there for years. Her confirming it changes nothing, even if she's doing it to sell a book.
And think of her what you will, as soon as she got the baby and moved to Australia she cut the activism and Internet stuff completely. And I tend to believe her more then a kike faggot, who is the embodiment of a venom spitting snake and making everything around him wither.

I don't believe she remembers the encounter if she was in the state she says she was in. I think it's Lauren trying to rebuild her media career by calling an old hook up rape. It's too commercially presented.

This is just stupidity or willful ignorance. Are you also one of those who thinks the women ran to him and asked to get pimped?

 

[Kofi Drinka]

She's never coming back anyway, her thing was being blonde and pretty and based but having a half chink muttbaby has seen that off, nevermind the MARRIED AN FBI AGENT part lmao.

She's at the right age for trying to recover now the kid is old enough to not need her attention all day long. And she's saying the right things to get into the media again.

This is just stupidity or willful ignorance. Are you also one of those who thinks the women ran to him and asked to get pimped?

He's a Muslim, it says all that needs to be said about him. I'm questioning a slut saying she was raped when she was known to sleep with people like Tate willingly.

 

[Mound Dweller]

She's at the right age for trying to recover now the kid is old enough to not need her attention all day long. And she's saying the right things to get into the media again.

She's a literal riceboiler her old audience is never gonna accept that, and she's not getting a new one either (HAG lmao), her only avenue is to embrace being a glowie asset much like her e-daddies milo and tommeh.
I actually think taint might be on the same train, reeks of (((controlled opposition))) with how in your face it all is.

 

[Vibralldo]

I always thought Lauren Southern was boring, but now we're getting constant revelations that she was married to an Australian intelligence officer, she dumped him and forced her to go into poverty, that she was (I think) a Russian asset, that she fucked Destiny, and now she was raped by Andrew Tate.

Insane shit.

 

[Spatula]

If you get into a guy's bed and start making out with him you're putting yourself in a bad situation. He is going to try and fuck you. The problem with her story is the previous sentence contradicts what she's saying here. She says she's too wasted and had to be carried to bed but has a clear memory of being choked out that night? Being choked out causes your memory to be blurry, so does alcohol.

She also said she puked at the club. Puking won't make you sober, but it's your body throwing away the toxins it can't process and is on the route to recovery.

You are making it seem like she was grinding on him or something, when it's so obvious that he was the one that initiated everything. Adnrew is probably a guy turned on by rape.
If she is telling the truth, this was obviously a sex trafficing exchange by tommy and tate.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

If she is telling the truth, this was obviously a sex trafficing exchange by tommy and tate.

Outside of the rape question because we don't know the details on this.

Is it sex trafficking is a woman travels around sleeping with people to help her career? When does it become sex tracking and when is it a woman being a slut for her career?

 

[Spatula]

Outside of the rape question because we don't know the details on this.

Is it sex trafficking is a woman travels around sleeping with people to help her career? When does it become sex tracking and when is it a woman being a slut for her career?

if she travels on the pretense of getting funding a business, yes. there is deception going on for the trafficking to succeed.
This was defined by the US Department of State, not me

Sex Trafficking​

Sex trafficking encompasses the range of activities involved when a trafficker uses force, fraud, or coercion to compel another person to engage in a commercial sex act or causes a child to engage in a commercial sex act.

The crime of sex trafficking is also understood through the “acts,” “means,” and “purpose” framework. All three elements are required to establish a sex trafficking crime (except in the case of child sex trafficking where the means are irrelevant).

The “acts” element of sex trafficking is met when a trafficker recruits, harbors, transports, provides, obtains, patronizes, or solicits another person to engage in commercial sex.

The “means” element of sex trafficking occurs when a trafficker uses force, fraud, or coercion. Coercion in the case of sex trafficking includes the broad array of means included in the forced labor definition. These can include threats of serious harm, psychological harm, reputational harm, threats to others, and debt manipulation.

The “purpose” element is a commercial sex act. Sex trafficking can take place in private homes, massage parlors, hotels, or brothels, among other locations, as well as on the internet.

 

[ADN_VIII]

I think regardless of how credible Lauren Southern is, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Tate raped her or others. His misogynistic stances on just about every topic regarding women lend credence to my view that he's not particularly uncomfortable with forcing sex on others. His past of loverboy scams and sex trafficking further convince me.

What I think is more interesting is whatever process he uses to reconcile his racism and his ancestry. Having trawled Slayed's Xitter account and the specific replies regarding the Tates, I find it indicative of Tate's cognitive dissonance that he's very obviously a mutt but rails against his own blood.

 

[Perun]

What I think is more interesting is whatever process he uses to reconcile his racism and his ancestry. Having trawled Slayed's Xitter account and the specific replies regarding the Tates, I find it indicative of Tate's cognitive dissonance that he's very obviously a mutt but rails against his own blood.

there's a lot of non whites lapring as nazis and alt-right, i know some browns irl even that hate on other brown immigrants just cause they are newer than them and they see themselves as being integrated/white. Half the save-the-white-race twitter posters are poos or hispanics. They just think they are different than the other browns. Trying to understand how a low IQ brown thinks is an exercise in futility.

 

[MunsterCheeseJr]

Are you also one of those who thinks the women ran to him and asked to get pimped?

Of all of the women mixed up at Tate's Romanian compound, I think that SOME of them knew what they were getting into.

Tate is playing at the macho bad boy who abuses women. That fits some women's kinks and fetishes. Former boxer. Slightly swarthy too.

And then he was also promising the women all of the money they could make by setting up their online Only Fan's style streaming house. Look at all of the Only Fans whores that get with notorious people to try and either up their profile, or to rake in the money from Only Fans. Look at the Only Fans whores who hooked up with Jack Daughtery. Same model. Jack is open about what his online hoeing plan is all about. Women are and and out based on how good the money is. It is a radical step up in notoriety for any nobody-women who agrees to play along.

I don't think any of the women who traveled to Romania to stay at Tate's compound had no clue what they were getting mixed up with. They either were attracted to Tate's brutal persona, or were in it for the sex streaming money and notoriety. The one thing they have been wrong about was their ability to say 'no' at any time and walk away.

 

[Sammich]

Tate is a faggot, a sex trafficker, a rapist, and a goofy retarded half breed manlet. That said, I don't think the bitch that fucked destiny and claimed he "had the most beautiful mind" was going to turn down anyone with even a drop of clout. She's a massive slut, and a huge liar.

 

[Edict of Expulsion]

desTiny and the Tate rumors were (somewhat/partially) true.

She really was/is the town bicycle.

I thought with fucking (literally) stephen bonnell the drugged up carpet cleaner faggot, but wow.

Literally the meme of a girl going into men’s spaces.

Also literally can be summed up as fatherless behavior. Leave this as a bright flashing billboard sign of warning of women to FUCKING STAY AWAY FROM.

Makes sense that southern, tate, and Robinson would all be hanging out, years and years ago also.

Cancerous garbage. Permanent deportation to africa, south sudan or djibouti whichever is cheapest, or a bullet.