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Two things to note here:

1) FB/Twitter is censoring those ISIS accounts as soon as they find them, so it's not like they're unjustly tolerated.

I think in general social networks in non-English languages AREN'T effectively purged of extremists, often because the extremist positions are not particularly extreme in say Pakistan.

If you believe in killing Islamic apostates, well that's nothing unusual in many Muslim countries, but it's a position that's not acceptable in the West.

Non-English FB is absolutely infested by people who want to exterminate Jews, form an Islamic caliphate, and so on, but FB is not equipped to control them, given that their numbers are much higher % of the total than the equivalent extreme positions would be in the west, the difficulty of finding censors who speak local language but have a liberal Western viewpoint, and also cultural relativism.

Recently the fact that the Burmese hate Muslims and are spreading anti-Islamic hate on FB has come to world notice, but in general non-English social media is absolutely fill of unacceptable (in Western terms) hate.

It doesn't make any sense to hold Robert Bowers to higher standards of speech on a Western-hosted network than a Mohammed Abdul or a Sein Kyaw.
 
Make no mistake, once the right wing picks up some serious momentum they will start getting censorious, and the left will pick up the banner not only to protect themselves, but as a totem to rally around. And yet this too will be temporary
Its already happened.
Back in 2013, 4/pol/ used to pride itself as the last bastion of free speech, them gamergate happened(last i heard, saying "nigger" there is now a bannable offense)
Then 8/pol/ said the same thing until the Trump elections, then questioning ebin drumpf could be a bannable offense, the of course there were some users who said that we needed to teach how /pol/ was actually a natsoc board amd that freedom of speech just enables jewish subversion.
Last I heard, the BO of /pol/ got demoted after binge banning people for no reason, But i don't know if the board has gone anybetter:optimistic:
 
This is exactly why you get a contract for hosting. Any service that wants to be serious needs to ensure that they aren't just going to be dropped at the whim of political inconvenience. It may cost extra to have assurance, but cost doesn't matter if you can't even run your service.
 
Make no mistake, once the right wing picks up some serious momentum they will start getting censorious, and the left will pick up the banner not only to protect themselves, but as a totem to rally around. And yet this too will be temporary

Remember the right was big into prosecuting porn and other shock sites for obscenity during the Bush years. The story of nowthatsfuckedup.com is worse than anything happening to these new sites because this was government restriction of speech. How many times do we see people in the right asking for cops to start bashing skulls during a lefty protest?

Neither side cares about free speech. They only care about free speech when it affects them or has the opportunity to score some political points. If this was happening to some site filled with extreme commies, Andrew Torba would be celebrating.
 
I think in general social networks in non-English languages AREN'T effectively purged of extremists, often because the extremist positions are not particularly extreme in say Pakistan.

If you believe in killing Islamic apostates, well that's nothing unusual in many Muslim countries, but it's a position that's not acceptable in the West.

Non-English FB is absolutely infested by people who want to exterminate Jews, form an Islamic caliphate, and so on, but FB is not equipped to control them, given that their numbers are much higher % of the total than the equivalent extreme positions would be in the west, the difficulty of finding censors who speak local language but have a liberal Western viewpoint, and also cultural relativism.

Recently the fact that the Burmese hate Muslims and are spreading anti-Islamic hate on FB has come to world notice, but in general non-English social media is absolutely fill of unacceptable (in Western terms) hate.

It doesn't make any sense to hold Robert Bowers to higher standards of speech on a Western-hosted network than a Mohammed Abdul or a Sein Kyaw.
FB and Twitter have regional offices that handle things like taking down ISIS accounts or verifying people/businesses. And both of those things happen pretty regularly btw.
 
i mean technically lefties attack conservatives back on twitter/anywhere else so

also is it just me or are right-wingers the only ones who screech a lot about free speech like as if it was their long lost lord and savior?

(btw this is also my observation, so i could be wrong...)
I see left wingers talk some about free speech but its mostly conservative. And youre right that leftists tend to attack conservatives on twitter. Both sides just love to yell at each other
 
You kidding? What do you think "hide your powerlevel" involves?

I’m talking about subject matter. Almost anything is discussed here freely. You can discuss subjects without directly affiliating with it (should you choose). People here, despite the warning, powerlevel quite often without repercussions.
 
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Stop using privately-owned social media as a substitute for the public square.

There is no "public square." It's covered in a layer of human feces and discarded hypodermic needles and your only audience would be the junkies and drunks.

The "public" square is now privately owned.
 
I’m talking about subject matter. Almost anything is discussed here freely. You can discuss subjects without directly affiliating with it (should you chose). People here, despite the warning, powerlevel quite often without repercussions.
Maybe this isn't the case with you, but the intersection of subjects I'm interested in are near enough a fingerprint.
 
Everyone's "favorite" Texan is none too happy
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FB and Twitter have regional offices that handle things like taking down ISIS accounts or verifying people/businesses. And both of those things happen pretty regularly btw.

I'm not talking about ISIS specifically, but general extremism, which is certainly not effectively policed.

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This post, by the Mayor of Banda Aceh, pledging to drive gays out of Aceh, was active on Instagram for over two years and had thousands of likes, and many comments urging the massacre of gays. It was not deleted in May 2017 when it was mentioned on the BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40024204 But only eventually was removed in April 2018 after it got more attention. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...citizens-take-sharia-law-into-their-own-hands

And the rhetoric spread on US-owned social media most certainly resulted in persecution of gay people.
 
I think in general social networks in non-English languages AREN'T effectively purged of extremists, often because the extremist positions are not particularly extreme in say Pakistan.

If you believe in killing Islamic apostates, well that's nothing unusual in many Muslim countries, but it's a position that's not acceptable in the West.

Non-English FB is absolutely infested by people who want to exterminate Jews, form an Islamic caliphate, and so on, but FB is not equipped to control them, given that their numbers are much higher % of the total than the equivalent extreme positions would be in the west, the difficulty of finding censors who speak local language but have a liberal Western viewpoint, and also cultural relativism.

Recently the fact that the Burmese hate Muslims and are spreading anti-Islamic hate on FB has come to world notice, but in general non-English social media is absolutely fill of unacceptable (in Western terms) hate.

It doesn't make any sense to hold Robert Bowers to higher standards of speech on a Western-hosted network than a Mohammed Abdul or a Sein Kyaw.
Globalism: Bad and impossible
 
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