Andrew Torba / Gab (Gab.com / Gab.ai) / Dissenter (dissenter.com) - An incompetent captain sinking millions of other people's dollars.

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They aren't going to sit around and tell competitors which parts of their business model work best. It's purposely vague for their own good.

And your statement that "there's no real way for a social media platform to actually make money" is crazy. Facebook made like $20 billion in profit last year. They're on pace to make more this year.
 
Why would I need a hosting service? I have never had any problems hosting. You seem to be absolutely confused on what the bottleneck is in this space. Hint: technical operations are an easy part to solve, until you get big enough to piss Jews off enough to get your domain names stolen. Hosting is only a problem for absolute total idiots like Torba, who put shit on Azure.
If you've exhausted all the viable registrars and sovereign registries, you can claim a /23 or /24 from a RIR if you fashion yourself as a hosting company. See if you can incorporate 14.88 into the IP address. Normies don't visit websites by memorizing and typing in domains.

You seem to be getting a decent run out of todaynic though.
 
While Gab is down, there's some tweets having some death treats against Trump who's still on.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/179-death-threats-against-president-trump-are-live-on-twitter/
https:/twitter.com/DocumentTheLeft/status/1056614265610747906

I presume for Twitter, there's no guilt of association. :roll:

It's very convenient for Facebook/Twitter/etc that even though virtually every terrorist or mass shooter or other criminal with an active social media presence has had accounts there, absolutely nothing happens to them, but the instant any competitor has a single user who does anything bad, the whole site gets shut down immediately.
 
It's very convenient for Facebook/Twitter/etc that even though virtually every terrorist or mass shooter or other criminal with an active social media presence has had accounts there, absolutely nothing happens to them, but the instant any competitor has a single user who does anything bad, the whole site gets shut down immediately.

I guess it's also ok if it's hate against white man like Joe Bernstein once did.
https://medium.com/@jonathanlockwoo...attack-whites-candace-owens-says-5c727f47f6d8
 
Why would I need a hosting service? I have never had any problems hosting. You seem to be absolutely confused on what the bottleneck is in this space. Hint: technical operations are an easy part to solve, until you get big enough to piss Jews off enough to get your domain names stolen. Hosting is only a problem for absolute total idiots like Torba, who put shit on Azure.
I'm confused then. Can you just tell us what the bottleneck is? Payment processing?

Stuff in the "loses hosting services because of massive complaints" space is generally either extremely undercapitalized or highly criminal.
Richard Spencer seems to have lots of money for tweed blazers and ballrooms.?
 
They weren't there by merit in the first place. Sargon of Akkad, for example, is an uneducated dipshit. If he gets kicked off of all platforms, I'm not shedding a tear. He didn't deserve to be on them in the first place, any more than any other uneducated dipshit I meet in the street.
And who the hell are you to determine who "deserves" to be on social media? And on what metric of "merit" do they "deserve" it? This is the exact same type of thinking that can and has been used to get people to support (or at least be apathetic to) censorship, because the ones getting censored didn't "deserve" a free platform for discussion on "merit".

I would have almost agreed with you, if not for this stupid shit.
 
And who the hell are you to determine who "deserves" to be on social media? And on what metric of "merit" do they "deserve" it? This is the exact same type of thinking that can and has been used to get people to support (or at least be apathetic to) censorship, because the ones getting censored didn't "deserve" a free platform for discussion on "merit".
Sargon is free to upload his videos to a whole load of other platforms, or just start seeding torrents. Information is freer than it's ever been. What he will lose is the massive exposure, automatically showing up in feeds and recommendations as Youtube does all the work for him with its recommender system.

Losing that is what these free speech crowds are constantly crying about. But that level of "free speech" is something that hardly anyone has anyway, and I say that a lot of people, Sargon included, didn't get it on merit.

I'd actually be supportive of some of these folk if they showed some support for the decentralised alternatives, which need exposure themselves. But people like Sargon are also tech illiterates.
 
Pusher.com banned GAB too https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1057294238516424705
It is a company that helps creating apps by hosting parts of the app on their server. (Or something like that)

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Sargon is free to upload his videos to a whole load of other platforms, or just start seeding torrents. Information is freer than it's ever been. What he will lose is the massive exposure, automatically showing up in feeds and recommendations as Youtube does all the work for him with its recommender system.
And exposure is what you need for your speech to be effective. Effective speech is not the exact same as free speech, but it is an important aspect of such.

Losing that is what these free speech crowds are constantly crying about. But that level of "free speech" is something that hardly anyone has anyway, and I say that a lot of people, Sargon included, didn't get it on merit.
Again, what is your metric of "merit" by which on should get massive exposure? Because what I'm hearing is that "people I don't like shouldn't have their voices magnified".

I'd actually be supportive of some of these folk if they showed some support for the decentralised alternatives, which need exposure themselves. But people like Sargon are also tech illiterates.
I would presume that being a "tech illiterate" would make you more ignorant of decentralized alternatives, for which it would be unethical to morally fault them for not explicitly endorsing. On that note, how does being technologically illiterate stop you from supporting decentralized alternatives, if you come across them? Maybe decentralized alternatives are just really hard to find due to pressuring from mainstream big tech.

Also, how is Sargon a "tech illiterate"?
 
"Free Speech" is not a viable business model for any kind of social media website, or any web 2.0 style site with a large degree of user-generated content. "Free Speech", as in being able to say whatever you want, includes things like child porn, death threats, spam, criminal activity, malware links, basically things that will bring a site to its knees without active content control or moderation. This isn't even a moral/ethical argument, if you're trying to run a viable social media platform, 99.99% of your users log on and if they see their feeds full of that shit they'll just leave, or the content will actively break the website on a technical level.

Promoting Gab as an absolute fundamentalist "Free Speech" platform was incredibly dumb and doomed it from the start, precisely because Torba found himself having to take action against some content that even he found disagreeable, which made him look like a hypocrite to the site's userbase. There is a difference between "Free Speech" and "Free Expression of Opinion", and it's the latter that is worth protecting, not the former.

Let's be clear here, Torba is an idiot and his model was self-contradictory and unsustainable. But to see the site chased off the internet like this is worrying, because it really does seem that free expression on the internet is under threat from companies who are more concerned with negative PR from association with today's target of Two Minute Hate than they are about facilitating the free exchange of ideas. Just because Gab never was the solution to this problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem that needs solving.
 
Sargon is free to upload his videos to a whole load of other platforms, or just start seeding torrents. Information is freer than it's ever been. What he will lose is the massive exposure, automatically showing up in feeds and recommendations as Youtube does all the work for him with its recommender system.

Losing that is what these free speech crowds are constantly crying about. But that level of "free speech" is something that hardly anyone has anyway, and I say that a lot of people, Sargon included, didn't get it on merit.

I'd actually be supportive of some of these folk if they showed some support for the decentralised alternatives, which need exposure themselves. But people like Sargon are also tech illiterates.

That's the same defense people who argued Alex Jones deserved his complete lockout from silicon valley made, you realize.
It's also a similar argument made by certain critics of DarkSydePhil's that have gone on to have productive threads on this website.
 
If Torba had spent the past three years behaving like an adult, set up his website properly with some basic guidelines for his users he might have the moral high ground in the free speech debate.

I despise censorship, especially from the technorati in San Francisco, but Andrew's antics have made him very hard to defend.
 
If Torba had spent the past three years behaving like an adult, set up his website properly with some basic guidelines for his users he might have the moral high ground in free speech debate.

What basic guidelines would have helped in this case? "Don't shoot people plx thx?"
 
Gab already disallowed illegal things. Let's face it, as much of a dumb asshole Torba is, there's a deliberate double standard here given that Twitter doesn't even ban Islamic terrorists and nothing happens to them. In San Fran they talk, and this was likely in the works for some time pending bad publicity like this.
 
I mean having at least some rules about what they would or wouldn't allow on gab, so they didn't have to constantly course correct. ie: "No loli pics"

You're right, but I'm not sure how that's relevant here. It's not the lack of a policy against lolis that has caused the Silicon Valley cartel to close ranks against Gab (moreso than usual,) it's the fact that they're holding Gab responsible for one of their users committing a massacre at a synagogue.
 
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