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Got any examples to share? I love a long rant.
Anime/Manga - Discuss Japanese cartoons and comics here; NO CULTURE WAR DOOMPOSTING!
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First, there is vast difference between anime then and now. I'm from when "anime fan" meant things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and Appleseed. Hyper violent grimdark action that had themes that stuck with you and seem prescient in current year. This is stark contrast to modern anime which seems to be moeblob "slice of life" bullshit.
It's not a bad thing, but it has tainted the image of anime. The major showing her tits in GITS might have been seen by normies as "cartoons for paedos", but that was easy to dismiss. You can't really do that when it's some show about schoolgirls showing their underwear.
The other element is that anime and manga is one of the few avenues of escapist entertainment left.
You got it half right.
First, there is vast difference between anime then and now. I'm from when "anime fan" meant things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and Appleseed. Hyper violent grimdark action that had themes that stuck with you and seem prescient in current year. This is stark contrast to modern anime which seems to be moeblob "slice of life" bullshit.
It's not a bad thing, but it has tainted the image of anime. The major showing her tits in GITS might have been seen by normies as "cartoons for paedos", but that was easy to dismiss. You can't really do that when it's some show about schoolgirls showing their underwear.
The other element is that anime and manga is one of the few avenues of escapist entertainment left.
It can lead to censorship, and even taint the shows/books themselves. I don't know if it's still the case in manga and anime, but games have been decimated by activist translators that hate Japanese games and their fans.
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thoughts on High School DxD? had a schizo friend that was into that shit.
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this is your classic indecisive faggot mc who has women throwing themselves at him but is incapable of acting on any of them somehow
also coom
The only one of those types I enjoyed was Rosario + Vampire (the manga, the anime devoted itself fully to the fanservice and was practically all filler for some retarded reason) because Tsukune is actively trying to avoid having a harem and no one is taking no as an answer from him because they're literal monsters. Fuck me, that ended almost twelve years ago. Jesus Christ.
Come to think of it, isekai killed the battle harem genre.
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Hero and Assassins protag is the ultimate sigma male.
Pretty much. My personal theory is that the main consumer base of anime moved up in age from high school adventure to midlife crisis.
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Considering what the Japanese work life is like, I'm not sure if I can blame them, but I am disappointed in their lack of taste, not that battle harems were anything good as much as they were just better than isekai slop
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My biggest issue is the isekai portion doesn't even matter in nearly all of them. If you removed the isekai element the story would barely change much if at all. What's the point in it if it has no impact on the story?
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self-insertion as it turns out
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It has an actual plot and the beginning of the series deals with each characters backstory and issues which is the part that draws people in as it's darker and the power levels are lower. Power escalation for the story was fine and then it got really dumb with shit like the different dimension evil gods that defeat the partial namesake of the story, Great Red who is the Dragon of Dragons (DxD)
Editor forbid the author from allowing them to have sex so the author had to write a reason for why it didn't happen and then has to write them being interrupted every time it could occur. Original reason was Issei was traumatized from being killed by Raynare in the beginning of the series.
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Its usually mid/endgame stuff. It is important, but it's a slow process before an antagonist turns out to be somebody else who is Japanese, a clone, or they have go back to Earth to stop the apocalypse, shit like that.
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@WelperHelper99 I think you are right that Clevatess is going to be awesome. The second episode was fantastic, and I can't remember the last time that a full anime episode felt like it was 3 minutes long. Poor Neru Q_Q
Was really surprised the female hero wasn't raped, though her just fucking killing herself was a great surprise, and made me really respect that she is absolutely not fucking around. I am really hoping Clevatess slaughters all the bandits horribly. I cant help but wonder if the tear jerker Neru is going to suffer some kind of horrific fate in the future regardless, but I am definitely along for the ride.
Was really surprised the female hero wasn't raped, though her just fucking killing herself was a great surprise, and made me really respect that she is absolutely not fucking around. I am really hoping Clevatess slaughters all the bandits horribly. I cant help but wonder if the tear jerker Neru is going to suffer some kind of horrific fate in the future regardless, but I am definitely along for the ride.
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Brother I told you. They are going fucking hard with this show. It's also smarter than the average 7/10 Iseaki that comes out every season. There is magic, rules, and the story takes itself seriously enough that it all works well inside its system. Fuck yeah she killed herself- she can't die lol.
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I believe that Clevatess is actually directed by a guy who specializes in tokusatsu, mainly the Ultraman series.
Between that and Red Ranger Isekai also impressing with a guy who got his start in that field I’m starting to think that the toku medium translates very well into anime, at least when it comes to the directors.
Between that and Red Ranger Isekai also impressing with a guy who got his start in that field I’m starting to think that the toku medium translates very well into anime, at least when it comes to the directors.
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I'm from the same era but, even back then (and I'm limiting this to anime that had commercial releases in the United States by about ~1995), anime also meant much more light-hearted fare like Ranma 1/2, Tenchi Muyo, Urusei Yatsura, Project A-Ko, Oh My Goddess!, and, of course, My Neighbor Totoro so it wasn't all grimdark bullets and gore.
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I liked the shonen stuff with the vaguely chess-based power system but the plot didn't go anywhere after a while. I appreciated that they did at least write some sort of justification for MC not fucking anyone and advancing the plot there was too much fan service for it to not immediately wear thin as an excuse.
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Because I have been playing catch up with the Berserk manga, I also decided to finally check out The Golden Age Arc: Memorial Edition. I never saw The Golden Age movie trilogy, and I was told to just skip the movies and watch the Memorial Edition series (which is just the three movies plus additional scenes spread out to 13 TV episodes).
I found it to be pretty "meh" overall, and I was downright skeeved out by the scene where Griffith/Fento rapes Casca, and not in the way that the scene is intended. In the manga, as horrifically detailed as it is, it is made crystal clear that you should feel disgusted and horrified by it. In the 1997 anime, just enough is shown to tell you exactly what is happening, but holds back where it needs to (as animation is a different medium than comic books). Both of these versions of the scene clearly depict Casca being in unbearable physical pain and that she's being tortured.
In the Golden Age Arc anime, the scene is a lot more sexualized. Casca is blushing and moaning throughout the scene, which makes me wonder, "is THIS how some insane people claiming 'Casca enjoyed it' started?" Then I read that the director apparently hired a hentai animation studio to animate that ONE scene ... Fucking gross and a complete betrayal of the horror of the original scene. I regret watching this adaptation for this alone, honestly.
The 97 anime still reigns supreme in regards to Berserk adaptations. And it will probably remain so.
And don't worry: I have no plans to check out the 2016-2017 anime. I've been warned, and I've seen enough clips to know to stay far away.
I found it to be pretty "meh" overall, and I was downright skeeved out by the scene where Griffith/Fento rapes Casca, and not in the way that the scene is intended. In the manga, as horrifically detailed as it is, it is made crystal clear that you should feel disgusted and horrified by it. In the 1997 anime, just enough is shown to tell you exactly what is happening, but holds back where it needs to (as animation is a different medium than comic books). Both of these versions of the scene clearly depict Casca being in unbearable physical pain and that she's being tortured.
In the Golden Age Arc anime, the scene is a lot more sexualized. Casca is blushing and moaning throughout the scene, which makes me wonder, "is THIS how some insane people claiming 'Casca enjoyed it' started?" Then I read that the director apparently hired a hentai animation studio to animate that ONE scene ... Fucking gross and a complete betrayal of the horror of the original scene. I regret watching this adaptation for this alone, honestly.
The 97 anime still reigns supreme in regards to Berserk adaptations. And it will probably remain so.
And don't worry: I have no plans to check out the 2016-2017 anime. I've been warned, and I've seen enough clips to know to stay far away.
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Then why did Ranger Reject decide to shoot itself in the face?
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With anime/manga that also get Japanese-made Live-action adaptations (and I mean not the crap that Netflix has been pushing out lately), how do those Live-action TV shows and movies fare in comparison? I watched the live-action movie adaptation of King's Game, which was made before the anime was released, and it somehow was even worse than the already shitty-ass anime version. The part where I gave up on it is when Kana loses the vote and jumps out the window, but it's so cheaply done because she walks off-screen to where the open window is, and "jumps" out offscreen, so you only see her bloody corpse on the ground afterwards. Yes, the anime somehow did that scene better. The movie also does the thing from Back to the Future where the students that get killed disappear from a class photo and their desk at school disappears, I think. I don't think I've seen a death scene done that poorly before, or is this a thing with Japanese live-action TV shows/movies in general?
The movie also changes the ending, where Chiemi presumably stabs Nobuaki to "win" the King's Game instead, and then is transferred to another school where presumably the next King's Game starts.
The movie also changes the ending, where Chiemi presumably stabs Nobuaki to "win" the King's Game instead, and then is transferred to another school where presumably the next King's Game starts.
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The live action movie for Cromartie High School is pure kino. The Gintama one was also a lot of fun.
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That would explain Casca reciprocating.
But yeah the memorial addition also had some bad sound mixing compared to the movies, since it was obviously rushed/redubbed to take advantage of Miura's death. I like 97' because it had tact, the scene only has the Behelit Theme playing and Guts screaming.