Anti-Vax Movement

[oldTireWater]

I got mine, fuck the rest of you.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Kick their doors down, steal their children and force vaccines on them, but don't give them back because their parents are obviously science-denying whackos who don't deserve to raise their children. Or something.

 

[Pansexual doorknob]

It would probably be best to fuck them to death and take their kids to have them vaccinated.

 

[Gordon Cole]

Give the adults measles to see if they'll put their money where their mouths are.

 

[KittyGremlin]

Let natural selection do its thing

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Let them die from their own stupidity.

 

[PsychoNerd054]

Take away their magic healing crystals.

 

[Lemmingwise]

edit: My posts were not intended for this thread.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

I may well be wrong, but the tool to fight anti-vax would be transparancy, education and open discussion, not equilibrium/logan's run tier mandatory chemical injection.

Agreed. Also, why not just make it possible to charge a parent with negligence if their child gets ill and injured as a result? Or if their child gets ill and transmits the disease to somebody else? Although I suppose we have seatbelt laws because of what might happen in an accident so on second thought I'm being dumb.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Education.
"muh thimerosal has mercury"
There are non-thimerosal vaccines and the mercury in thimerosal is both very tiny in amount and is chemically bound in such a way that it CAN'T fuck you up.
"muh vaccines cause autism"
The vast majority of studies have found no causal link. We don't even know exactly what causes autism anyway, to say that vaccines do it puts cart before horse in the most unhelpful fashion possible because we'd need to identify the MECHANISM for autism before we can say vaccines are a source of it.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

it would be useless legislation.

That's the government's favourite kind!
Also, I already called myself dumb, no need to pile on.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Education.

Education by who? The government? We all know public education is just one big propaganda indoctrination factory. They faked the moon landing and NASA keeps telling us the Earth is round, why couldn't they just fake studies that supposedly show vaccines don't cause autism?

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Education by who? The government? We all know public education is just one big propaganda indoctrination factory. They faked the moon landing and NASA keeps telling us the Earth is round, why couldn't they just fake studies that supposedly show vaccines don't cause autism?

If you know anything about the government to begin with you'd know they're way too fucking inept and lazy to fake that many pretty damn conclusive studies, but I see your underlying point here in the sense that one can't fix stupid.

That being said, I'm not against stupid people failing to vaccinate, if it really comes down to that. I feel a bit bad for their kids, though.

 

[JULAY]

"muh vaccines cause autism"

Ask them if they'd rather have a dead kid or a live autist. If they say the former, you know they have an account here.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

I have serious doubts there is a signicant anti-vax problem.

The fact that there is a campaign in my country with people trying to make adult flu-shots mandatory and enforcable by employers, tells me that there is a push for making it mandatory to have non-essential vaccination. It would be in their interest to put as much of a spotlight on the couple of crazies that are anti-vax, as these homeopathic science deniers have always existed (and died to various ailments for refusing modern medical care).

The relative lack of severity of flu compared to the relative lack of effectiveness of flu vaccination, tells me that this is not an attempt at improving public health. I don't think I would have had that position had they only focused on child-vaccination of terrible diseases.

I think the herd immunity too, while true, is being exaggerated as a reason to pust to make vaccinations mandatory.

I may well be wrong, but the tool to fight anti-vax would be transparancy, education and open discussion, not equilibrium/logan's run tier mandatory chemical injection.

New York ends religious exemptions for vaccines

Amid an ongoing measles outbreak, New York is requiring schoolchildren to be vaccinated, even if parents have religious objections.

www.cnn.com

Measles information for British Columbians

Measles is a highly contagious viral illness that spreads through the air by coughing and sneezing, as well as respiratory secretions. Getting vaccinated is the best way to protect against measles.

www.bccdc.ca

Measles – European Region

www.who.int

There's clearly a problem.

 

[Okkervils]

The relative lack of severity of flu compared to the relative lack of effectiveness of flu vaccination, tells me that this is not an attempt at improving public health.

Burden of Influenza

Learn about how CDC estimates the burden of seasonal influenza in the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

Even if the average effectiveness rate of the flu shot is 20-40%, that's 20-40% less people falling ill, potentially dying and taking up needed hospital beds. To say it's not an attempt to improve public health is retarded.

 

[Niggernerd]

less vaccinated kids means less kids running on my lawn when im a old man.
It's for the better.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Nothing. Government is for LIBERTY.

 

[Lemmingwise]

edit: My posts were not intended for this thread.

 

[SilkGnut]

I would imagine if illegal immigration were to be limited there would be far fewer people in the country neglecting to get vaccinations for themselves or their children.

The fact that this discussion even touches on any other group shows the power of media over a population.