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Alright, I have the model kit tools and sander on order. Will be ready to build a Zaku this weekend. Looking forward to it. Thanks @Optimus Prime and @Forever Sunrise .

@EyelessMC Thanks for the link, will be reading through it after brushing up on the animation. Maybe my opinion will change for the better with a rewatch. I didn't see the Zeta Gundam movies, would you recommend?
So far I'm going through the series instead and it's really good. If you have the time I'd say go for the series instead. A lot of people prefer the MSG compilation movies over the anime since, according to them, they condense the central story and key moments down (and are each roughly 2hrs 30mins) while keeping things more mature overall (it was a show marketed at more than just adults, after all, and Tomino didn't have as much control on it as he did with Zeta Gundam).
The Zeta movies have fantastic new animation but it's inter-spliced with extended scenes direct from the anime into much shorter movies (less story) and that can be jarring. Could be my bias speaking but I went from the MSG compilation movies to the Zeta Gundam series and it clicks perfectly.

Some speculate that you can decide which one you like more by possibly downloading them via a potential torrent called "Gundam (Pack 1): Mobile Suit 0079, MSG Zeta, ZZ, Movies". You could, according to some people, maybe find it easy on a site allegedly called Nyaa or some other supposed website referred to as Bay Pirate or something like that. All I know is I love the cops, our law enforcement, and the military--they're important.

Watching ZZ, I really liked Puru because she's a fucking crack baby
Gunpla threads are magic. I know what you mean and it's a good point but the way you put it was priceless.
 
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So far I'm going through the series instead and it's really good. If you have the time I'd say go for the series instead. A lot of people prefer the MSG compilation movies over the anime since, according to them, they condense the central story and key moments down (and are each roughly 2hrs 30mins) while keeping things more mature overall (it was a show marketed at more than just adults, after all, and Tomino didn't have as much control on it as he did with Zeta Gundam).
The Zeta movies have fantastic new animation but it's inter-spliced with extended scenes direct from the anime into much shorter movies (less story) and that can be jarring. Could be my bias speaking but I went from the MSG compilation movies to the Zeta Gundam series and it clicks perfectly.

Some speculate that you can decide which one you like more by possibly downloading them via a potential torrent called "Gundam (Pack 1): Mobile Suit 0079, MSG Zeta, ZZ, Movies". You could, according to some people, maybe find it easy on a site allegedly called Nyaa or some other supposed website referred to as Bay Pirate or something like that. All I know is I love the cops, our law enforcement, and the military--they're important.


Gunpla threads are magic. I know what you mean and it's a good point but the way you put it was priceless.
I watched through the entire MS Gundam and Zeta Gundam series around 8 or so years ago and remember enjoying Zeta greatly. The original MS Gundam drags a bit in places and I heard that the movies clean it up and streamline the narrative a bit. ZZ I'll probably get to eventually, will dig around a bit...legally of course.

Any kits you like in particular? Will probably want to continue if the Zaku goes well.
 
hey, actually, figure here would be good to ask, but i just found an old can of mod podge spray from an old project. shit still sprays. is it an acceptable topcoat, or should i actually shell out for a real topcoat here?
 
I'm an absolute slut for painted kits and I've invested a ton into painting. Acrylic really doesn't work well on anything that'll sustain friction. It'll chip or break down if you intend to pose/manipulate the kit very much at all. You might get away with a tiny bit of posing, but if you want any kind of pristine finish you more or less need a proper set of tools, aka an airbrush and lacquer paint/primer. But that's a serious skillset akin to any other form of art, so while I wholeheartedly recommend it, only do so if you have the money and time.
I actually have an airbrush already and have slowly been gathering supplies prepping to paint some kits; last thing I need is the paint itself. Are there any brands of paint you prefer?

As for sanding, I recommend absolutely anything by Madworks. They do superb, high-quality sanding sponges that I use all the time. If you want very high quality finishes on bare plastic, I also recommend Alclad II micro-mesh polishing cloths. I don't use them anymore because I paint now, but their 3000-12000 grade range can polish plastic to a literal mirror shine. You could shave with the result.
I'm a cheap-ass so I just sand with a glass file and 1000-2000 grit sandpaper wrapped around two taped-together bamboo skewers, with a final polishing with just a normal cloth towel. It honestly works well enough (except on pieces with awkward concave geometries) that I don't really feel the need for specialized sanding tools.

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As a potential long-term project, I kinda want to get the HG Baund Doc and kitbash/mod it into sort of a dark magical girl. I'd mostly need to replace/modify the legs to be a lot thinner and maybe add on some high-heel looking feet, though this is a fairly large and expensive HG so I dunno how easy it would be to find parts-swappable kits with similarly-sized limbs.
 
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Any kits you like in particular? Will probably want to continue if the Zaku goes well.
I'm pretty eclectic as I'm still fairly early into the hobby myself. Despite some failings I mentioned earlier in the thread the new Wing Zero EW ver Ka is easily a masterpiece of Wing Gundam kits and a personal favorite. Depending on your budget I'd say most of the kits mentioned in this thread with a good review from posters would be good, too, like Gundam 00's Dynames or Kyrios MG, the HGs mentioned, the RG Nu Gundam if you can find it for a good price, so on. If you're new to building then it might be good to start on a HG or regular MG (like Dynames) kit before touching something more complicated like a ver. Ka.
I started with an Armored Core Kotobukiya kit so I dove head-first into the hardest end of the pool. The part that's not even in the pool.
I hit cement is what I'm saying lol

Whatever you choose, I'd recommend never ever paying any more than $65 to, at most, $70 for any kit (and $70 only if you really like the design/anime and know enough about the kit beforehand to make sure you don't waste money/time, though looking into reviews is always a good rule of thumb anyway). $65-$70 at most, and that's including tax and shipping.
As great as it is to build these kits they have the same problem to me that most puzzle kits or videogames do-- if there's a house fire everything is gonna go up in smoke, all wasted money and time. Also, the more expensive a kit is the less likely you'll be to panel line it, fiddle with it, maybe down the line paint it or customize it, though that's just me.

Don't go buying a bunch of kits and building up a backlog either. Some posters here do that because this hobby is their favorite and they love it. Just do one kit at a time, taking your time to really enjoy it and the end result.
 
Alright, I have the model kit tools and sander on order. Will be ready to build a Zaku this weekend. Looking forward to it. Thanks @Optimus Prime and @Forever Sunrise .

Good luck, and welcome to the hobby!

Also, just in case it might help, here's a link to the Dalong.net page for the C6/R6 (I got the name wrong earlier, my bad) Zaku II. It has a part breakdown so you can see what parts go where, great if you need a little visual assistance in piecing the parts together.

 
Don't go buying a bunch of kits and building up a backlog either. Some posters here do that because this hobby is their favorite and they love it. Just do one kit at a time, taking your time to really enjoy it and the end result.
Seconded. I've got a closet full of plans and ideas I haven't touched for years because I decided I want to start doing things more professionally (mainly learning how to paint) and never did. Just moved and have some actual room now so I have plans to make a work space for this sort of thing in the near future. Have a bunch of old 1/144 Wing kits I plan on cleaning up and learning on.
 
I actually have an airbrush already and have slowly been gathering supplies prepping to paint some kits; last thing I need is the paint itself. Are there any brands of paint you prefer?

First of all, do you have a proper chemical face-mask and can paint somewhere that isn't a living space and is well-ventilated? Unless you're using exclusively water-based acrylics (aka the worse kind of paint in my opinion) you will need a good mask designed to cope with organic chemical vapors.
 
First of all, do you have a proper chemical face-mask and can paint somewhere that isn't a living space and is well-ventilated? Unless you're using exclusively water-based acrylics (aka the worse kind of paint in my opinion) you will need a good mask designed to cope with organic chemical vapors.
Yeah, just had a painter's mask come in, and I built a small ventilator (...basically a bathroom fan inside a plastic box with a filter stuck to the front) that feeds out my window.
 
Yeah, just had a painter's mask come in, and I built a small ventilator (...basically a bathroom fan inside a plastic box with a filter stuck to the front) that feeds out my window.

Good, because paint fumes are not something you want to mess with. You can seriously damage your lungs without the right protective equipment, so it's better to be safe than sorry.

Anyway, paints are interesting. As somebody who has been painting for a few years, I recommend lacquer, which can also be labelled 'acrylic lacquer'. Lacquer is the strongest kind of easily-available paint solvent, which means it bonds much more strongly to the plastic and creates a tougher finish overall. A lot of people claim it's not beginner-friendly, but I'd disagree; it's only beginner-unfriendly if you aren't prepared. Good lacquer gets you an objectively stronger finish than any other kind of paint, and is the only paint I'd ever use for joints and internal parts that are subject to frequent friction. Lacquer paints are also finer than acrylic paints, with higher pigment density. That means you're putting down less paint for the same result, which is another reason they're great for internal parts; you aren't adding extra layers that tighten everything up as much.

My favorite brand by far is Gaia Notes. Their paint is amazing, especially their metallic lines.. But it's A) very rare outside Japan, B) quite expensive. I also like E7 Model Paint, Modo Colors, MRP and Splash brands.

A small step down in quality but a huge step up in general accessibility is Mr Hobby, which produces very good acrylic, enamel and lacquer paint lines. The benefit of Mr Hobby is that they make everything; paint, thinners, tools, etc. Their paints aren't as durable as the 'premium' brands above, but I've painted whole kits with them and have no complaints. I also use their Mr Surfacer products on everything. If you just want to paint something a very durable matte grey, black or white, just put down a layer of Mr Surfacer and you just don't need anything else, except maybe a topcoat. For thinners I use Mr Color Leveling Thinner, which adds a bit of drying time to give the paint longer to even out over the part.

Another option is Tamiya. Tamiya does great entry-level acrylics, which is what I started out with. I recommend them for a beginner if you aren't doing internal parts, because they're still reasonably tough and you can thin their acrylic products with lacquer thinner as well as their standard isopropyl alcohol thinners. If you got some Mr Surfacer Grey/Black and used it on frames and then Tamiya acrylics for external parts, you'd still be able to get fantastic results. The only thing I hate about isopropyl alcohol and acrylic is that it's much more 'temperamental' than lacquer. The thinner is extremely hydro-cephalic, so if you're painting anywhere that has any real level of ambient moisture in the air, that moisture is constantly diluting your thinner and affecting how the paint dries. Lacquer is harder to work with, but produces much more consistent results regardless of external conditions, and dries a lot faster as well. Lacquer is touch-dry within 30 minutes. Acrylic can still be delicate after four hours. Tamiya has also started producing bottled versions of their spray-can lacquers recently, which are quite good.
 
This is fantastic advice, though again a reminder to others who are wondering if they should get into painting on this level or not: Count the cost, not just in money but moreso in personal investment. Beginners always pressure themselves to buy all these kinds of paints and tools before they even know what kind of builder they will be. Buy a kit, build it. After that see what you think.
Are you the type to be fine with your creation or do you want to personalize it more? Do you like weathering or do you want to make your MG Kyrios look like a demon mecha from Hell? Learn about yourself first before you try to mimic others' passion.

Most new to any hobby dive into the most complex parts too early, get tired fast, don't like it and then just drop it altogether, which sucks because you just wasted a bunch of money on things you're never gonna use. I know of a bunch of people who did this with Gunpla, Warhammer, Kotobukiya, etc.

So again, people who don't know what they want to do need to first build a kit they really enjoy and then "count the cost" so to speak. Straight builds with panel lining or simple kitbashing can be satisfying on their own, and if you discover you're the really creative type or that this hobby is peak fun for you, maybe you'll want to go even further like the super builders ITT

Yeah, just had a painter's mask come in, and I built a small ventilator (...basically a bathroom fan inside a plastic box with a filter stuck to the front) that feeds out my window.
Do you have a fire escape you can use? Maybe a backyard? I'd suggest painting outside on a less windy or not at all windy day simply because the fumes leaving a window can be kicked back inside the room and then permeate the apartment. So a garage with an open garage door or sitting and spraying on a fire escape or otherwise could be safer.
I speak from experience lol
 
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Intermediate builder who wants to see if i can get a group of like minded kiwis to share the love of our autistic art.



my first post just got out of lurker status and dont know the proper format for a thread of this kind help would be greatly appreciated
Yo I'm into gunpla. Cant do anything because I'm working on an animation project for school but I just got a compressor and an iwata airbrush and plan to do a resin conversion forthe sazabi ver.ka a I have everything ready just gotta start it
 
While waiting for my tools and sander to show up I started the first 3 episodes of ZZ and...it's OK I guess? Tone is very subdued compared to the end of Zeta and is very episode of the week in feel. Will probably finish it this weekend and jump over to Gundam Wing since I haven't watched it in years and forget almost everything. From there I'm not sure. Any series recommendations? I've seen MS Gundam 0079, 0080, Zeta, Char's Counterattack, Wing, and G.

Is Unicorn any good, or the Origin?
 
So, I started prepping my Kotobukiya Eva kit for its eventual painting - the first step being, fixing some serious issues with the torso assembly. The way the kit is designed, the armor segments have a really obvious seam line right down the middle that can't be glued together without making the entire torso impossible to take apart, because each torso segment consists of two pieces that wrap around in a "U" shape, joined at the seam in the front.

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Fortunately, the kit has a conveniently placed panel line that I just cut through to cut each segment into 3 parts (technically 4, but two of them are getting cemented together). I just slowly scored my way through with a hobby knife using the existing line as a guide. Not very fun, I'm definitely picking up a panel scriber ASAP. Another happy coincidence was that the parts were designed in such a way that each resultant piece still had a pretty stable connection to the inner frame - I was afraid I'd have to jury-rig some pegs out of spare runner but this could be avoided for now. I did have to modify the connection of the chest plate so that it could be inserted from the front (it essentially just "clips" into the body now) and I'm afraid it'll come loose with time, but it suffices for now. The end result is a crotch and chest armor plate that can be independently removed, allowing the different torso sections to be disassembled. Given how easily I was able to do this with only minimal modification to the structure, I'm honestly not sure why the designers didn't just split the parts this way in the first place.

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The legs also have large and obnoxious panel lines that can't be removed without making disassembly impossible, but I'll probably just leave them be because the worst offenders are the back of the thighs which probably won't be too visible anyways. This is the first time I've actually modified a kit like this, and even though this was fairly straightforward it definitely gave me some confidence in my ability to do finer-precision stuff.
 
You made the kit look better than the original concept art. Nicely done! And did you put in an LED for the mono-eye or is that just the paint you used catching the flash? It really looks like a Gundam-tier red Zaku. How are the manipulators on that kit? I heard older kits with posable fingers like that usually can't hold onto anything very securely.
Thanks!
It's a combination of a very thin layer of metallic green Gundam marker, and a blue LED. The hands are not as good as some of the other manipulators (zaku 2.0 has fucking awesome hands), but they're serviceable. I haven't built the static hands yet (because lazy) but they seem pretty standard.

I've finally gotten around to starting my RG NU and expansion pack (fucking $40 accessory kit). Because I was a fucking idiot that bought it on release, before the all in one set was announced/released the next goddamn month.

That reminds me, I need to hunt down the HWS set too.
 
So, I started prepping my Kotobukiya Eva kit for its eventual painting - the first step being, fixing some serious issues with the torso assembly. The way the kit is designed, the armor segments have a really obvious seam line right down the middle that can't be glued together without making the entire torso impossible to take apart, because each torso segment consists of two pieces that wrap around in a "U" shape, joined at the seam in the front.

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Fortunately, the kit has a conveniently placed panel line that I just cut through to cut each segment into 3 parts (technically 4, but two of them are getting cemented together). I just slowly scored my way through with a hobby knife using the existing line as a guide. Not very fun, I'm definitely picking up a panel scriber ASAP. Another happy coincidence was that the parts were designed in such a way that each resultant piece still had a pretty stable connection to the inner frame - I was afraid I'd have to jury-rig some pegs out of spare runner but this could be avoided for now. I did have to modify the connection of the chest plate so that it could be inserted from the front (it essentially just "clips" into the body now) and I'm afraid it'll come loose with time, but it suffices for now. The end result is a crotch and chest armor plate that can be independently removed, allowing the different torso sections to be disassembled. Given how easily I was able to do this with only minimal modification to the structure, I'm honestly not sure why the designers didn't just split the parts this way in the first place.

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The legs also have large and obnoxious panel lines that can't be removed without making disassembly impossible, but I'll probably just leave them be because the worst offenders are the back of the thighs which probably won't be too visible anyways. This is the first time I've actually modified a kit like this, and even though this was fairly straightforward it definitely gave me some confidence in my ability to do finer-precision stuff.
Nice! Keep us posted.

While waiting for my tools and sander to show up I started the first 3 episodes of ZZ and...it's OK I guess? Tone is very subdued compared to the end of Zeta and is very episode of the week in feel. Will probably finish it this weekend and jump over to Gundam Wing since I haven't watched it in years and forget almost everything. From there I'm not sure. Any series recommendations? I've seen MS Gundam 0079, 0080, Zeta, Char's Counterattack, Wing, and G.

Is Unicorn any good, or the Origin?
Unicorn OVAs > anime from what I heard and, man, the OVAs are just so gorgeous they could be worth a watch. Also for Marida Cruz.
I'm not a fan at all but you might like it if you can get past two crucial elements of the story... the main antagonist is not who he says he is and it's supposedly very clear he isn't in the novel the anime's based on but for some reason (marketing?) the anime felt the need to tease and imply and write otherwise, and also the "Mankind alone has a God-- POTENTIAL!" theme is retarded. There's a reason Unicorn is so beloved in Japan and I think it's mainly because it's the ultimate culmination and conclusion to Universal Century (the OG Gundam series) many generations later. I know there's "Narrative" or whatever but I don't see anyone talking about that except for the Phenex Unicorn gunpla kits.

Also Gundam 00 is pretty great but it's been a while since I saw it.

@Optimus Prime explained why IBO is ultimately a disappointment so maybe stay away from that. Also, listen to his advice if you want to go for a Zeta Gundam gunpla kit. I didn't because clearly my IQ is insanely high.
Buying a notoriously annoying transforming MG kit from '05 that doesn't even have proper hands so it can't hold anything except for a beam saber? Sounds good to me! And it's somewhat hard to find so paying $65 is pretty decent--but not compared to the price of newer MG with far better build design. I paid the same price for this that I did the new Wing Zero ver Ka. I just...
And good luck trying to get it to stand up. I thought I put the feet on wrong but no, it's just like that.
And the head is a great mold but the lines are shallow so I spent literally an hour trying to panel line it properly before realizing I needed to take a knife to its face like a psycho to deepen the lines so the ink would stay in there when I wiped it clean. Fun.
It has a cool base that looks like a launch pad at least. Too bad the 1/100 pilot figures that come with it aren't even my man Kamile and his girl Fa but instead are just "random guy" and "standing girl" in helmeted space suits.

Good thing I refuse to transform any kit (that's not a Kyrios or something certainly secure and easy) or the decent rigidity of it would die instantly. I can already see how its torso (which is really just a folded chest) is starting to wiggle on me and I just finished building. I just finished building it!
I am living retardation.
I still like it, though, but that's mainly just because the Zeta design is so 80's cool

Yo I'm into gunpla. Cant do anything because I'm working on an animation project for school but I just got a compressor and an iwata airbrush and plan to do a resin conversion forthe sazabi ver.ka a I have everything ready just gotta start it
Madlad plans on customizing that red giant beast of a kit. Gotta keep us posted when you do it.
 
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just got confirmation that a package that i've been wating a month for almost has just shipped, finally, the supplies to build moon gundam are on their way
 
Built another kit in the backlog today, HG Justice Knight. Man, what a great kit. The build is super stable (no polycaps!) with amazing color separation and few, if any visible seams and nub marks to clean up. The posability of the base kit is also exceptional, especially the shoulders - this double peg assembly allows the shoulder to swing forward a LOT further than you'd expect from how big and unwieldy the pauldrons look. My only complaint is that the accessories, being large and unwieldy as they are, tend to interfere with each other a bit (especially the super long lance handle and the wing-cape-thing) which somewhat limits the action poses you can do. But they look cool as fuck, so I'll give it a pass.

Honestly, this just raises some questions about Bandai's engineering; if this $25 kit can be built to this level of solidity and parts separation, why can't every kit in its price range be engineered like this? Awesome design, good price, fun build, excellent engineering... what else can you ask for? Highly recommend you pick this kit up if you like its aesthetic.

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On a side note, I've finally rounded up all the stuff I need to start painting, and I'll be spending the long weekend testing stuff out on an old 30MM kit I had lying around. I'm starting with Tamiya acrylics because the kits I'm planning on painting first pretty much just need their armor painted, so paint durability is less of an issue.
 
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Just thought I'd expand on the info from before. One of the major advantage of acrylic over other paint types is how quick and easy it is to remove. Any ammonia-containing cleaning fluid will rapidly dissolve acrylic without causing any harm whatsoever to plastic beneath, no matter much you use and how long the exposure time is. However, this won't affect lacquer at all. To clean lacquer you need a lacquer or cellulose thinner, or brake fluid. Here in the EU, DOT 4 classification brake fluid will slowly but surely attack lacquer and disintegrate it without damaging the plastic, making it the safest but slowest option. The fluid may also leave a slight residue of lacquer discoloration on the part, and I'd recommend briskly scrubbing the parts with a stiff brush afterwards to clean as much of that up as possible. You can filter the fluid afterwards to re-use it, though it will eventually become ineffective. It's also classified as chemical waste so you can't just pour it down the drain or on the ground. You need to look up what disposal guidelines your country/state has and follow those.

Lacquer thinner comes in a lot of different strengths. I got a three-litre can of lacquer thinner for car paint that I use for airbrush cleaning and scouring. Don't ever use thinner that strong on plastic. It will destroy ABS and polystyrene within seconds. Hobby lacquer can still damage plastic through prolonged exposure, so don't ever immerse plastic in it. However, taking a cotton rag, lightly moistening it with lacquer thinner and gently rubbing painted parts will clean them off quickly and pretty safely as well. I can safely say that hobby lacquer thinner has never damaged parts, but I've always been careful and sparing in my applications.

On the whole though, I would never try and remove lacquer unless I absolutely had no other choice at all. That's why acrylic is good for beginners. But on the other hand, I found lacquer had a different 'style' of application anyway, so not much transferred over.
 
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