Disaster AP: How frigid weather are affecting electric vehicles - Experts acknowledge that cold weather can be hard for EVs, but they say with some planning and a little adjustment, owners should be able to travel pretty much as normal.

How frigid weather are affecting electric vehicles
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Tom Krisher
2024-01-17 21:58:52GMT

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Ankita Bansal prepares to charge her Tesla, Wednesday, Jan. 17, 2024, in Ann Arbor, Mich.(AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)

PITTSFIELD TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — For nearly a week, frigid temperatures from Chicago to northern Texas have made life painful for electric-vehicle owners, with reduced driving range and hours of waiting at charging stations.

In Oak Brook, Illinois, near Chicago, on Monday, television reporters found Teslas that were running out of juice while in long lines for plugs at a Supercharger station. The temperature hit a low of minus 9 Fahrenheit (-23 Celsius).

Outside of Ann Arbor, Michigan, Teslas were plugged in at six of eight charging stations Wednesday as the wind howled with a temperature of 7 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 14 Celsius). At least one driver was nearly out of juice.

It’s well known that EVs lose some of their travel range in the cold, especially in subzero temperatures like those that hit the nation’s mid-section this week. Studies found that range loss varies from 10% to 36%.

EVs also don’t charge as quickly in extreme cold. Some Tesla owners near Chicago told reporters their cars wouldn’t charge at all.

Experts acknowledge that cold weather can be hard for EVs, but they say with some planning and a little adjustment, owners should be able to travel pretty much as normal.

WHAT’S THE PROBLEM?
Inside EV batteries, lithium ions flow through a liquid electrolyte, producing electricity. But they travel more slowly through the electrolyte when it gets cold and don’t release as much energy. That cuts into the range and can deplete a battery faster.

The same happens in reverse. Since electrons move more slowly, the battery can’t accept as much electricity from a charging plug. That slows down charging.

The problem is that when temperatures plunge, batteries have to be warm enough for the electrons to move. And they have to be even warmer at fast-charging stations like Tesla’s.

“Pretty much anything that’s a chemical substance slows down when you get to a low temperature,” said Neil Dasgupta, associate professor of mechanical and materials science engineering at the University of Michigan. “That’s just something that nature has given us, and we have to deal with that.”

At a Supercharger station in Pittsfield Township, Michigan, just south of Ann Arbor, the battery in Ankita Bansal’s Tesla had only 7% of its charge left. She plugged in, but the car wouldn’t take electricity. Instead, the display said the battery was heating up. After it hits the proper temperature, it would take an hour and 50 minutes to get to a full charge, the display said.

“I have a long way to go,” said Bansal, a University of Michigan graduate student who wanted to get to a full charge because she doesn’t have a charging station at home.

HOW TO MAKE IT WORK
Bruce Westlake, president of the Eastern Michigan Electric Vehicle Association, said most EVs are programmed to warm the battery if the driver tells vehicle’s navigation system that a trip to the charging station is coming.

Many of those who think their cars won’t charge are new to EVs and don’t know how to “precondition” their batteries, said Westlake, who has two Teslas.

“They’re just learning,” he said. “And Tesla isn’t very good at explaining some things.” A message was left seeking comment from Tesla.

In frigid temperatures, it can take a half hour to warm the battery so it’s ready to charge, Westlake said. Preconditioning the battery does cost some range, although it’s usually only a few miles, he said.

Bansal, who has had her Tesla for only a week, didn’t know about preconditioning the car before charging, but she does now.

A few stalls away from her, Kim Burney’s Tesla Model 3 was charging just a little slower than it does in normal temperatures. She had driven farther than she thought on a trip to her dentist in Ann Arbor Wednesday morning and wanted to get close to a full charge for the rest of the day’s travels.

So she told the car she was going to the charging station and it was ready by the time she arrived and plugged in.

Like Westlake, Burney said EV drivers need to plan ahead, especially in cold weather. The car, she said, will tell you where charging stations are and how much range you have left. “The more you drive it the more you’re comfortable knowing how far you can go and how much to charge it,” she said.

Burney said she loses roughly 15% to 20% of her battery range in cold weather, but it gets dramatically worse in cold snaps like the one this week.

THE FUTURE OF CHARGING
In the short run, automakers are likely to come up with better ways to protect battery life and warm them for charging, Dasgupta said. And there are new battery chemistries in development that are more resilient in cold weather.

In the short term, Dasgupta said that as more mainstream consumers buy EVs, and as more automakers enter the market, they’ll develop models using existing lithium-ion chemistry that are tailored to colder climates. In some cases overall range might have to be sacrificed a little to get better cold-weather performance, he said.

Millions are being invested in new battery technology that performs better in the cold that will find its way from military, aerospace and undersea applications into electric vehicles, Dasgupta said.

“You can be an EV driver in a cold-weather climate,” he said. “Be optimistic and excited about what the future holds because it’s only going to get better from here.”

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Electric Car Owners Confront a Harsh Foe: Cold Weather
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Emily Schmall and Jenny Gross
2024-01-17 21:18:33GMT

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A driver charging his car in Denver on Tuesday. Tesla drivers across the United States have struggled with severely cold weather this week. Credit...David Zalubowski/Associated Press

With Chicago temperatures sinking below zero, electric vehicle charging stations have become scenes of desperation: depleted batteries, confrontational drivers and lines stretching out onto the street.

“When it’s cold like this, cars aren’t functioning well, chargers aren’t functioning well, and people don’t function so well either,” said Javed Spencer, an Uber driver who said he had done little else in the last three days besides charge his rented Chevy Bolt and worry about being stranded with a dead battery — again.

Mr. Spencer, 27, said he set out on Sunday for a charging station with 30 miles left on his battery. Within minutes, the battery was dead. He had to have the car towed to the station.

“When I finally plugged it in, it wasn’t getting any charge,” he said. Recharging the battery, which usually takes Mr. Spencer an hour, took five hours.

With more people owning electric vehicles than ever before, cold snaps this winter have created headaches for electric vehicle owners, as freezing temperatures drain batteries and reduce driving range.

And the problems may persist a little longer. Chicago and other parts of the United States and Canada this week have been stunned by bitterly cold temperatures. On Tuesday, wind chills plummeted near -30 degrees across much of the Chicago area, according to the National Weather Service. Dangerously low temperatures and waves of snow are expected to stick through the end of the week.

‘It’s kind of like, I don’t really want a Tesla.’
Vehicles use more energy to heat their batteries and cabin in cold weather, so it is normal to see energy consumption increase, Tesla reminds users in a post on its website, where it offers a few tips for drivers: Keep the charge level above 20 percent to reduce the impact of freezing temperatures. Tesla also recommends that drivers use its “scheduled departure” feature to register the start of a trip in advance, so the vehicle can determine the best time to start charging and preconditioning. That allows the car to operate at peak efficiency from the moment it starts.

In a painfully chilly parking lot in Chicago on Tuesday, Tesla drivers huddled in their cars waiting for a charge.

That morning, Nick Sethi, a 35-year-old engineer in Chicago, said he had found his Tesla frozen shut. He spent an hour in minus 5-degree temperatures struggling with the locks.

Finally, he was able to chisel out the embedded trunk handle to open it, clambering in and driving his Model Y Long Range S.U.V. five miles to the closest supercharging station. He joined a long line of Tesla drivers.

All 12 charging posts were occupied, with drivers slowing the process down slightly by staying inside their vehicles with the heat on high.

“It’s been a roller-coaster ride,” Mr. Sethi, who moved to Chicago from Dallas last spring, said of owning a Tesla through a string of brutally cold days. “I’ll go through the winter and then decide whether I keep it.”

A few charging posts down, Joshalin Rivera was also experiencing a bit of buyer’s remorse. She sat with the heat blasting inside her 2023 Tesla Model 3 as she juiced up the battery.

“If you’re waiting in that line and you only have 50 miles, you’re not going to make it,” Ms. Rivera said, gesturing to the line of vehicles stretched out onto Elston Avenue. She said that she had seen a Tesla run out of battery shortly after a driver attempted to cut the line.

In normal conditions, Ms. Rivera’s car can drive up to 273 miles on a single, 30-minute charge. This week, Ms. Rivera said she has awakened to find about a third of her car battery drained from the overnight cold. As temperatures plummeted, she spent hours every morning waiting in line and recharging the battery.

“It’s kind of like, I don’t really want a Tesla,” she said.

Why does cold weather drain electric vehicle batteries?
Unlike cars with internal combustion engines, an electric vehicle has two batteries: a low-voltage and a high-voltage. In particularly cold weather, the lower-voltage, 12-volt battery can also lose charge, like it does in traditional vehicles.

When that happens, the E.V. cannot charge at a fast charger until the low voltage battery has been jump-started, said Albert Gore III, a former Tesla employee who is now the executive director of the Zero Emission Transportation Association, which represents automakers including Tesla and has released a tips sheet for operating electric vehicles in cold weather.

The challenge for electric vehicles is the two sides of the battery — the anode and the cathode — have chemical reactions that are slowed during extremely cold temperatures. That affects both the charging and the discharging of the battery, said Jack Brouwer, director of the Clean Energy Institute and a professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at the University of California, Irvine.

“It ends up being very difficult to make battery electric vehicles work in very cold conditions,” Mr. Brouwer said. “You cannot charge a battery as fast or discharge a battery as fast if it’s cold. There’s no physical way of getting around.”

Tesla did not respond to a request for comment.

They don’t have these problems in Norway.
As people in the industry study what went wrong in Chicago, some suggest that the charging infrastructure may have been simply outmatched by the extreme cold weather.

“We’re just a few years into E.V. deployment at scale,” Mr. Gore said. “This is not a categorical problem for electric vehicles,” he added, “because it has largely been sorted out in other places.”

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All vehicles, including ones powered by diesel or gas, perform worse in cold weather, a spokesman for an automotive trade organization noted. Dangerously cold temperatures are expected to continue in Chicago this week.Credit...Nam Y. Huh/Associated Press

Some of the countries with the highest usage of electric vehicles are also among the coldest. In Norway, where nearly one in four vehicles is electric, drivers are accustomed to taking steps, such as preheating the car ahead of a drive, to increase efficiency even in cold weather, said Lars Godbolt, an adviser of the Norwegian Electric Vehicle Association, which represents more than 120,000 electric car owners in Norway.

Charging stations in Norway see longer lines in the winter than summer, since vehicles are slower to charge in colder weather, but that has become less of an issue in recent years since Norway has built more charging ports, Mr. Godbolt said, citing a recent survey of members. Also, the majority of people in Norway live in houses, not apartments, and nearly 90 percent of electric vehicle owners have their own charging stations at home, he said.

Around the world, 14 percent of all new cars sold in 2022 were electric, up from 9 percent in 2021 and less than 5 percent in 2020, according to the International Energy Agency, which provides data on energy security. In Europe, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Finland and Denmark had the highest share of electric vehicles in new car registrations in 2022, according to the European Environment Agency.

Cold weather is likely to be less of an issue as companies update electric vehicles models. Even in the last few years, companies have developed capabilities that allow newer models to be more efficient in the cold. “These new challenges rise up, and the industry innovates their way to not completely but at least partly solve many of these issues,” Mr. Godbolt said.

All vehicles, including ones powered by diesel or gas, perform worse in cold weather, noted James Boley, a spokesman for the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, a trade association that represents more than 800 automotive companies in Britain. He said that the problem was less about the capacity of electric vehicles to run well in cold weather, and more about the inability to provide necessary infrastructure, like charging stations.

With a gas or diesel powered car, drivers have complete confidence that they will find gas stations, so are less focused on their decreased efficiency in cold weather, he said. “If electric vehicle charging infrastructure isn’t in place, it can be more of a concern.”

Mr. Spencer, the Uber driver, said the economics of driving an E.V. for a ride-sharing service may not work in Chicago winters. Uber said in a statement that it offers charging discounts for its drivers, but Mr. Spencer still worries.

“The payout is the same, but the cost to drivers, with all these extra charges, is much more,” he said.
 
Could a work-around for this involve a heated tunnel, like a car wash, or does it just take too goddamn long to heat up the battery anyway so you'd still be sitting there with a thumb in your ass, alternating thumbs so neither one freezes?

Pretty sure heating/insulating entire car parks is counter to the 'saving the environment' marketing ploy.

battery I've never once had problems with gasoline or diesel vehicles even in the most heinous of weather conditions.

Diesels actually have fuel warmers, they have some winter startup issues in extreme cold... but it's just that, startup, and I'm pretty sure you just need to heat the fuel lines.
 
Diesels actually have fuel warmers, they have some winter startup issues in extreme cold... but it's just that, startup, and I'm pretty sure you just need to heat the fuel lines.
in cold enough when you start getting below freezing, diesel fuel begins to gel up. it's not really noticible untill you get down into the single digits and sub zero Fahrenheit though. that's when it starts behaving more like a wax than a liquid. granted they make handy fuel additives for people who need to leave their diesel vehicles outside in such conditions
 
That morning, Nick Sethi, a 35-year-old engineer in Chicago, said he had found his Tesla frozen shut. He spent an hour in minus 5-degree temperatures struggling with the locks.

Finally, he was able to chisel out the embedded trunk handle to open it, clambering in and driving his Model Y Long Range S.U.V.
The Tesla app has a way to open your car doors remotely to get around this issue. People don't bother to learn basic functions and then cry about it.
 
Just use good synthetic oil of the proper viscosity and maybe a block/oil pan heater (if you live in some place with insane frosts like -40 and below) and none of your gasoline/diesel vehicles will have any problems.

Complete and total cope.
Block heaters are very commonly used in cold climates. Just a basic part of winterizing your car to plug that in.
 
The Tesla app has a way to open your car doors remotely to get around this issue. People don't bother to learn basic functions and then cry about it.

Assuming the internal handle motors have enough torque to break the ice and that it breaks before the plastic gears slip. I wouldn't risk finding out TBH.

Even in modern gas cars with these stupid, overengineered doors when the battery dies you get to have fun climbing in through the trunk to reach the hood latch, to get to the battery.... and it's just one more set of parts that the manufacturer won't continue to produce and that will certainly die. This is why people end up spending $75 for a brass connecting rod or a $200 on some used solenoid switch.

I'm convinced part of the war on gas cars is that they are too reliable (or were before we started sticking electric motors and computers and CVTs everywhere). There is no profit to be had when the heart of the car is good for 500K. The vehicle needs to be replaced every 5 years not every 25 if auto manufacturers are going to please their investors. See 'cash for clunkers' effectively being a way to destroy the used market, once again under the guise of environmentalism.
 
This happened at a low-travel ebb in January. Very few people are going anywhere for MLK Day week, it's a great off-season rates week for just about anywhere that has seasonally variable pricing all over the US.

Imagine these kinds of polar vortex cold snaps (and remember sometimes they happen with little warning) occurring on Thanksgiving or Christmas weekend. People will literally die in their EVs unable to charge in the super-freezing cold.

Want to see something fun? Try this experiment!

Go find out the expected range on electric vehicles (your choice!) at a temperature of -10 or -20 F.

Haha, it was a trick question! You can't! All the graphs of people's actual test data only go down to 0F.

Good thing it never gets colder than that, ever, and that no one will ever need a good estimate of the impact on their range when a decreased range could leave them stranded in deadly cold far from any way to charge!
 
Hello, I'm an electric car. I can't go very fast, or very far. And if you drive me, people will think you're gay.
It's extra funny that this was meant to be commentary poking at the oil industry for trying to prevent alternatives to oil power, yet it's entirely true in reality, besides the can't go fast bit. They certainly cannot tow as impressively as ICEs, though.
Can you imagine the fire hazard those kind of batteries could be?!
I'd actually prefer flying in a plane powered by a reactor. At least then it'd have to be behind a strong shield wall. It would likely be greener, minus the possibility of a plane crash spilling radioactive material across a wide range.
 
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This is why electric cars are extremely niche. IMO as the technology currently stands it only makes sense in southern Europe or in parts of California. It doesn’t make sense for most working class people or for anyone who is planning on using their car for anything besides a daily commute. Or if you live in a state that gets snow.
Ya, our part of CA is probably perfect for EVs. Almost never goes below 32, rarely gets 80 or above. See a lot of Teslas here. But not for me. Hybrid would be okay, but not an EV.
 
Could a work-around for this involve a heated tunnel, like a car wash, or does it just take too goddamn long to heat up the battery anyway so you'd still be sitting there with a thumb in your ass, alternating thumbs so neither one freezes?
My grandparents have a Bolt ev. If you own a home and you keep it plugged in overnight. The car uses wall power to keep the batteries heated. Once you start moving however you have to keep the batteries warm. And standard driving will not do that when it's below 32f. So you'll lose range to the heat pump/temperature control system. All of this goes out the window if your an apartment dweller. During the winter they lose about 40mi of range. So from 250mi to 210ish. Thankfully it's just a grocery getter and not their only car. If it gets to -10f then forget about it. The BMS can't keep up. It starts losing (according to its own measurements) 20% of range to battery conditioning.
Meanwhile my 40 year old diesel starts a little sluggishly. But turns on in -20f with fuel additives in it. As our fuel here is only nominally rated to -10f. Electric cars can suck it and they can pry my explosions from my cold dead hands.
 
It's actually too late for that :'(I'm just riding it out until it finally dies.
Eh, as long as it's leaking from the oil galley to the outside, and not from the oil galley to the water jacket. Had an old impreza at one point that weeped oil through the head gasket. Usually ok as long as it doesn't start overheating and you don't start finding oil in the coolant.
 
in cold enough when you start getting below freezing, diesel fuel begins to gel up. it's not really noticible untill you get down into the single digits and sub zero Fahrenheit though. that's when it starts behaving more like a wax than a liquid. granted they make handy fuel additives for people who need to leave their diesel vehicles outside in such conditions
Diesels get it from both ends, both their fuel AND the air are susceptible to the cold.


To those who don't know, the air/fuel mix in your regular car's gas engine is piped into a cylinder, closed up, the piston compresses the mix into about 1/8th the area, and a spark from a , well, spark plug, ignites it.

Diesels don't have spark plugs, they are compression ignition.

In a diesel, air/fuel mix is piped into a cylinder, closed up, the piston compresses the mix into about 1/20th the area, and the heat you get naturally from compressing the air that hard causes the fuel to spontaneously combust without outside ignition.

Naturally, this is a lot harder when the engine has to suck on raw, cold air.

Once warmed up, the engine itself makes enough heat from combustion and friction that by the the time incoming air gets into the cylinder it's warm enough.

But, at sub-zero temps? It'll take some effort to get that initial spark.

So, most diesel engines have a contingency for cold starting, either an engine block heater to keep everything warm like an electric bed blanket, or, they have "glow plugs" - small heating elements like in a toaster, that do the same to the incoming air to try and assist starting.

Old school 50's era equipment like the farm's old army truck have a cold start device in the form of a "flame heater" that would start a literal fire on top of the air intake/manifold from either a bottle of something similar to Coleman stove fuel, or siphoned diesel from the fuel pump, and force the engine to swallow the flames to get that heat into the cylinder.

It gets even more impressive when you move up to big, industrial diesels like earth movers or railroad locomotives, they might even have a small dedicated gasoline engine called a "Pony Motor" to crank over the main diesel engine for the several minutes it can take to build enough heat to fire up in frigid temps as no battery/electric starter combo could hold a charge long enough to generate the constant peak cranking amps and not take up excessive space onboard.
 
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