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This thread is for anything made by the apache foundation. I'll start first: I made once simple site with tomcat, is it good server hosting tool or not in your opinion? I'm just total newfag to tech, that's why I'm asking
 
Well, I might as well start sperging...

I hate the Apache server. I understand the technical reasons why someone would have used it 20 years ago, but that does not make it good.
The configuration always felt awkward even if I ignore that its XML (big if).
The idea that you MUST run your server as a daemon is lunacy.
>"Why yes, I would hate to debug my service just by reading the console and I would love service-1 to go offline while I apply changes to service-2".
Then there is PHP integration. PHP integration. The damages done to the tech industry are immeasurable.
People I know use NiggaX; I like Lighttpd.

The Apache license feels redundant. Practically speaking, it might as well be MIT.

Subversion will be forgotten soon. Tho I guess it was a good historical stepping stone.

The only thing I remember about Maven is some esoteric issue I had to resolve on someone else's machine. Look, I won't argue its bad at what it's doing, but why do we have language specific build systems again?

I had to look up what Tomcat actually does. So, as I understand it, some genius invented CGI, but for Java only. Amazin'.
 
As a tribe they were useless, and were constantly mogged by the even more brutal and cruel Comanches that had the decency to learn from whites that horse warfare was the future at the time. And the "March of Tears" doesn't sound as cool as the "Trail of Tears." I'd rank them in the bottom half of native american species for sure.

I prefer nginx
 
agent_donkey said:
Well, I might as well start sperging...

I hate the Apache server. I understand the technical reasons why someone would have used it 20 years ago, but that does not make it good.
The configuration always felt awkward even if I ignore that its XML (big if).
The idea that you MUST run your server as a daemon is lunacy.
>"Why yes, I would hate to debug my service just by reading the console and I would love service-1 to go offline while I apply changes to service-2".
Then there is PHP integration. PHP integration. The damages done to the tech industry are immeasurable.
People I know use NiggaX; I like Lighttpd.

The Apache license feels redundant. Practically speaking, it might as well be MIT.

Subversion will be forgotten soon. Tho I guess it was a good historical stepping stone.

The only thing I remember about Maven is some esoteric issue I had to resolve on someone else's machine. Look, I won't argue its bad at what it's doing, but why do we have language specific build systems again?

I had to look up what Tomcat actually does. So, as I understand it, some genius invented CGI, but for Java only. Amazin'.
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I feel bad that I didn't understand much out of your comment. Again I made relatively simple site but it did have good UI. It had 0 javascript, PHP, maven (maybe I did use maven? It was a long time ago so I don't remember). I only used Java, html, css, html and css integrated into java code, sql (mysql), xml and I think maybe other stuff for config as well that were probably automatic. Also there was some Java derived language that I used in it, I forgot its name. The site wasn't even launched it was only working from localhost, but I did put a lot of effort into making sure you won't stumble on 404 error pages in the URL, so I made descriptive messages telling you what went wrong and I obviously tried preventing the user from accessing the stuff they shouldn't and couldn't be dealing with. And it also had tomcat, and I made the code on eclipse IDE. That's the vast majority of what I remember out of making it
 
ghastlyretard said:
I prefer nginx
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Hmm, I should look into it. So far I've only used apache, but now I will either switch to nginx or apache2, so there will be some learning anyways. I've heard that nginx is better, but also that apache caught up and its a tossup now. I guess just broadening my horizons is reason enough.
 
Zeftax said:
Hmm, I should look into it. So far I've only used apache, but now I will either switch to nginx or apache2, so there will be some learning anyways. I've heard that nginx is better, but also that apache caught up and its a tossup now. I guess just broadening my horizons is reason enough.
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I've never done anything that actually serves to lots of people. I just do static HTML pages for stuff at work, but the setup is a lot easier than apache has been.
 
ghastlyretard said:
I've never done anything that actually serves to lots of people.
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Me neither, just a few self hosted services either just for me, or me and a few friends. Also a website but not many people read that (although the game jam entries will be hosted there starting today or tomorrow, so I'm excited about that).
I mostly just enjoy tinkering and being able to not be dependent on big tech. The only thing I am dependent on google for currently is e-mail, I didn't want to self host that until having a bit more experience and more reliable hardware, I do have both of those now, so I hope to switch before the end of the year.
 
Requesting rename to the "ASF thread".

Phoronix: Apache Software Foundation Unveils Its Branding Overhaul With New Logo & "The ASF" Name (archive)
The Apache Software Foundation announced last year that they would be changing its corporate logo and overhaul its branding after being criticized by American Indian activists. Today they announced the brand new Apache Software Foundation branding.
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apache_old.webp apache_new.webp
 
Zeftax said:
Hmm, I should look into it. So far I've only used apache, but now I will either switch to nginx or apache2, so there will be some learning anyways. I've heard that nginx is better, but also that apache caught up and its a tossup now. I guess just broadening my horizons is reason enough.
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Don't sleep on Caddy for lightweight deployments.
 
I always thought the "a patchy" thing was real. Now I'm shattered.
 
Apache is still king for me. People who use Cloudflare or Nginx are always looking for an easy solution. If someone is using Apache, there’s a much better chance they actually know what they are doing.
 
Zeftax said:
Hmm, I should look into it. So far I've only used apache, but now I will either switch to nginx or apache2, so there will be some learning anyways. I've heard that nginx is better, but also that apache caught up and its a tossup now. I guess just broadening my horizons is reason enough.
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You are using apache2 if you are using apache. You'd have to go extremely out of your way to get even a sniff of apache 1 in the past 20 years. Apache2 took over in 2004.
 
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