Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

[Ashenthorn]

I also don't like Spotlight. It has to create indexes on every volume (disk) mounted in order to work. Disabling it screws stuff up. What was wrong with the search feature Panther (10.3) used?

I disable indexing on all my drives, uncheck everything in the control panel, and never use Spotlight. It's worse than Sherlock was (which I didn't think could be possible).

 

[Dingo]

Wow! what a waste even if they were not working they could still have been used for parts or repair.

 

[Fluke]

I tried using an xr yesterday and i didnt like it. Why the fuck did they remove the home button? It worked well and it was simple now you have to use "gestures"
WHY? whats wrong with physical buttons now you have to do this weird corner swipe that never fucking works. Fuck even the android style touchscreen buttons are better then just swipe like a retard until it works.
With each new ios they also seem to fuck with things that could have just stayed the same, who thought it was a good idea to move the settings thing from a convient swipe up to the right corner? Also no power button?

Im also gonna assume that the durabilty on these got to be shit with the no bezels approach.

 

[Splendid]

Small or no bezels has been the norm for a while. That technology is fine.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Thin bezels are fine if the software design plays nice with it, IE palm rejection, unless that's a hardware feature then disregard I suck cocks.

 

[L50LasPak]

I probably have the least experience with Apple in this thread because I've never owned any of their products. I'm just here to gloat about their impending downfall because I made fun of people I knew in school for owning Ipods.

@Pissmaster General put this much more eloquently on page one, but he's totally right. Apple's niche is dead, and the only customers remaining are those who are so used to their products they can't really be bothered to learn anything new. Which I do sympathize with alittle, for instance I was a stubborn brickphone user for years and my first ever smart phone pissed me off like you would never believe. And frankly the fact that I'm using a Google product as my main way of telecomunication pisses me off to no end as well. I hate change too.

Back on point though, Apple has been completely surrounded. Like, literally their current business situation makes me think of that ending scene in Waterloo where the French are bunched up tight and encircled by rows and rows of bayonets. There is no escape. Samsung makes both more luxuriously huge phones for the drooling lunatics who can't get enough of that sweet palm screen but also makes cheaper models for normal people. Google and Amazon are currently having an epic fistfight for who gets to dominate the smart home industry, Safari literally got stolen out from under them by Chrome (I think, anyway, I recall reading up on the taxonomy of web browsers and hearing Chrome's early versions were mostly based on Safari's arcitecture), smart TV tech is totally dominated by simpler stuff like Roku or half the time just built-in now, Windows 8-10 much to my irritation have completely cloned the way a Mac functions and interacts with the user but at a much cheaper price, and if you want a good tablet for a decent price companies will line up out the door to sell you one.

The only interesting thing I've heard of that Apple is doing is that Apple Pencil thing which is basically an electronic stylus with extremely good feedback, but already Microsoft has their own version and its only a matter of time until another company produces it more cheaply and efficiently.

Being a complete non-user I can only speculate on where they went wrong, but I think the tale of Apple will be remembered as The Downfall of Marketing. Apple spent and still spends so much on creating a certain look, mystique and atmosphere around their products and their stores. At first it appears to have been a brilliant idea, but in the long run as these devices became more commonplace most people just wanted something that's no frills, simple, easy, quick to repair or replace. Especially businesses both large and small. The average employee is already so helpless when their computer does anything even slightly out of the ordinary; there is almost no advantage to equipping your company with a bunch of Macs unless you're some kind of arthouse studio and even then there are more professional variants out now.

The marketing style and cult-like atmosphere around Apple is considered a huge symbol of modern capitalism, but capitalism doesn't work that way. At the end of the day people want things that are cheap, strong and disposable. The market has spoken. Apple is surrounded.

 

[Never Scored]

I tried using an xr yesterday and i didnt like it. Why the fuck did they remove the home button? It worked well and it was simple now you have to use "gestures"
WHY? whats wrong with physical buttons now you have to do this weird corner swipe that never fucking works. Fuck even the android style touchscreen buttons are better then just swipe like an exceptional individual until it works.
With each new ios they also seem to fuck with things that could have just stayed the same, who thought it was a good idea to move the settings thing from a convient swipe up to the right corner? Also no power button?

Im also gonna assume that the durabilty on these got to be shit with the no bezels approach.

Apple has a vendetta against buttons. They want to replace everything with touch screens. Remember when they replaced the function keys with a touch screen?

 

[Sangria]

I have to use an iPad for class, and dear lord do I hate it. It's an older model, so it's slow and clunky as hell thanks to Apple's policy of planned obsolescence, and it hurts to type on. It doesn't help that all the apps my classes have me use are poorly optimized, leading to frequent crashes. As a big rotten cherry on top, my school has an exclusive deal with Apple, so we're forced to deal with the company's shenanigans no matter what. I guess macs are better than chromebooks...
Thankfully, I'm planning on getting a laptop soon and my teachers have given me the green light to replace my iPad when I get it. I've heard Thinkpads are pretty good, so I'm looking into one of those.

 

[Never Scored]

I have to use an iPad for class, and dear lord do I hate it. It's an older model, so it's slow and clunky as hell thanks to Apple's policy of planned obsolescence, and it hurts to type on. It doesn't help that all the apps my classes have me use are poorly optimized, leading to frequent crashes. As a big rotten cherry on top, my school has an exclusive deal with Apple, so we're forced to deal with the company's shenanigans no matter what. I guess macs are better than chromebooks...
Thankfully, I'm planning on getting a laptop soon and my teachers have given me the green light to replace my iPad when I get it. I've heard Thinkpads are pretty good, so I'm looking into one of those.

The nice thing about Thinkpads is they're very modular and easy to upgrade and replace parts.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

No love for the Apple II line here? Those were great and reliable.

 

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The nice thing about Thinkpads is they're very modular and easy to upgrade and replace parts.

They were, once. I believe the T440 is supposed to be about the end of that line.

They're probably still no worse than Dell etc.

 

[Kot Johansson]

They were, once. I believe the T440 is supposed to be about the end of that line.

They're probably still no worse than Dell etc.

The T440p and W541 still had socketed CPUs and the P line is still fairly user-upgradeable.
Also, while Dell consumer laptops may be garbage, their business laptop line (Latitude) is actually very nice IMO.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I used a demo of the latest iPad at a nearby store. Typing ' on it gives this fancy non-standard (on a computer) exceptional apostrophe, and typing " gives stupid fancy open and close quotes. I have to go and copy and paste " or ' if I want to type them out on that iPad. Minor bullshit, but bullshit nonetheless.

And that's not even getting into the real bullshit that is "multiple windows" in the iPad's built in Safari browser.

edit: also it tried to autocorrect "MSDOS" to "macOS" lol

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

Macfag owned from being a macfag

 

[Marissa Moira]

There's still no option to have the original alphabetically organized keyboards. The current default layout was because people typed too efficiently and wound up breaking typewriters.

Tim Cook wants to needlessly change things in order to have a more daring future, start doing shit like that. Undo the last 90 years of keyboard tyranny.

Fucking inefficient disorganized bullshit, I hated taking typing classes in school.

 

[Vecr]

Macfag owned from being a macfag

This is why I refuse to have any sort of wireless/Bluetooth watch, and have an old phone that still lets you take out the battery.

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

There's still no option to have the original alphabetically organized keyboards. The current default layout was because people typed too efficiently and wound up breaking typewriters.

Tim Cook wants to needlessly change things in order to have a more daring future, start doing shit like that. Undo the last 90 years of keyboard tyranny.

Fucking inefficient disorganized bullshit, I hated taking typing classes in school.

Ever tried Dvorak?

 

[byuu]

There's still no option to have the original alphabetically organized keyboards. The current default layout was because people typed too efficiently and wound up breaking typewriters.

There are a lot of myths concerning QWERTY mostly spread by Dvorakfags:

Contrary to popular belief, the QWERTY layout was not designed to slow the typist down,[5] but rather to speed up typing by preventing jams. Indeed, there is evidence that, aside from the issue of jamming, placing often-used keys farther apart increases typing speed, because it encourages alternation between the hands.[14]
[...]
Several alternatives to QWERTY have been developed over the years, claimed by their designers and users to be more efficient, intuitive, and ergonomic. Nevertheless, none have seen widespread adoption, partly due to the sheer dominance of available keyboards and training.[54] Although some studies have suggested that some of these may allow for faster typing speeds,[55] many other studies have failed to do so, and many of the studies claiming improved typing speeds were severely methodologically flawed or deliberately biased, such as the studies administered by August Dvorak himself before and after World War II.[citation needed] Economists Stan Liebowitz and Stephen Margolis have noted that rigorous studies are inconclusive as to whether they actually offer any real benefits,[56] and some studies on keyboard layout have suggested that, for a skilled typist, layout is largely irrelevant – even randomized and alphabetical keyboards allow for similar typing speeds to QWERTY and Dvorak keyboards, and that switching costs always outweigh the benefits of further training on whichever keyboard you already use.

I don't see any point in alphabetical keyboards. You would know the order in your head but that doesn't really help in committing the key positions to muscle-memory.
Just play more Typing of the Dead.

 

[Rei is shit]

Ages ago I had a macbook pro that suffered from an expanding battery. I took a few photos of this, uploaded it to my photobucket account (this was ~2010), and then posted those images on a few message boards.

About a year ago I logged into my photobucket account for the first time in ages. The photos of that comically large battery were gone, deleted by photobucket for "rule violations", which basically amounts to copyright violations or adult content. The funny thing is out of all ~200 images I had there, including quite a bit of straight up porn and gore, only the macbook battery photos had been removed for breaking the rules.

I'm guessing it was probably some booty blasted macfag who reported it. But I wouldn't put it past apple to have some bot that just trawls the web for linked keywords like "macbook pro battery expanding", flags it, and then some pajeet gets to make 5 cents an hour while figuring out ways to make the bad pr go away. Whichever one is the cause, its fucking funny to me.

 

[Tookie]

This sums up my thoughts on Apple, and this video is coming from someone whose main business is repairing shit Apple hardware.