Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 60 12.2%
  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 431 87.8%

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Isn't it practically a meme to use PC parts picker or something else to figure out how to build a computer, even laptop, that's more powerful than an equivalent mac computer at a fraction of the cost?
Desktops no question, its much cheaper.

Laptops I dont think its as easy to compare. From what I have read the Apple silicon chips have smoked Intel and Amd in terms of power and battery life. Its why I decided to not get another Lenovo X1, I couldnt find a Windows laptop I liked around the same price.
 
Overpriced, yes I fully agree, thats all Apple products really.
The Air sort of takes it up a notch. That said, if either being extremely lightweight or extremely "rub it in the face of the plebs" or both is a thing, it's definitely an item. I would generally instead pick a 13 inch MBP but with lots of storage, memory, and at least right now, the most pimped-out M3 CPU.
Isn't it practically a meme to use PC parts picker or something else to figure out how to build a computer, even laptop, that's more powerful than an equivalent mac computer at a fraction of the cost?
Pretty much. I used that for what I'm currently typing on, after being so out of touch with sites like that I asked for advice here. It was good advice. I forget the site I used to use. It's particularly good because it has a user community that shares builds they've made that actually work, so you can put something together and know everything's compatible.

They also have a few generally recommended builds for various purposes, like business or gaming, and this system is a mid-range gaming (because anything gaming can do business while the reverse is not necessarily true), with slight modifications (I chose a WD SSD based on someone here).

When I get Apple products it's generally because I got a discount or even got it basically for free from someone for helping them set up their newest computer. And yes, I usually do tell them dude, you realize you could probably still get a grand or so for this "old" computer by selling it on ebay right?

I am positively Judaic about paying retail and while I love Apple products I rarely buy them.
 
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Desktops no question, its much cheaper.

Laptops I dont think its as easy to compare. From what I have read the Apple silicon chips have smoked Intel and Amd in terms of power and battery life. Its why I decided to not get another Lenovo X1, I couldnt find a Windows laptop I liked around the same price.
Aren't they ARM chips? Doesn't that massively limit your ability to use an actually decent OS?
 
Aren't they ARM chips? Doesn't that massively limit your ability to use an actually decent OS?

Possibly, though there are ARM variants of current Windows or Linux distributions, possibly with x86-64 emulators. I don't fault Apple for going all-in with mobile computing devices, they can't really compete with desktop computers properly.

That said, I can't help but wonder what would happen if Apple decided to release their OS on disk or download so that people could install it on their own custom PC build or something, and see if the OS could be judged on its own merits then. Of which, I imagine, are very few.
 
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I use my iPad a ton honestly. I got it on a relatively cheap sale. It's the main device I use for YouTube and media consumption.
 
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That said, I can't help but wonder what would happen if Apple decided to release their OS on disk or download so that people could install it on their own custom PC build or something, and see if the OS could be judged on its own merits then. Of which, I imagine, are very few.

They used to, Hackintosh used to be an entire subculture, but Apple essentially killed it off a few years back.

 
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Central management of local configuration is a great boon for IT departments in the modern era. It allows us to, for example, make sure that your screen locks itself when you wander off to blather about whatever nonsense you watched last night to your officemates while a bunch of customer social security numbers is in plain view on your monitor. Apple allows this, broadly, but Apple doesn't let you centrally manage certain things (camera, microphone, Location Services) even if you're a corporate customer using an approved MDM so you can't stalk people. OK, fine, I get it, Apple wants to protect people's privacy. (Or more precisely, Apple wants to make itself the gatekeeper of people's privacy...)

This was annoying during the early days of the pandemic when everyone switched to remote access, because they had to manually give permission to videoconferencing apps, but usually it was fairly straightforward to do so - you were quite obviously prompted, and if you didn't, your mic/camera didn't work, so it behooved you to actually read the fucking words on the fucking screen and perform the fucking changes so you could participate in your fucking meeting for your fucking email job.

Recently we've moved away from a "traditional" phone system in our organization to a software-based solution. Your computer is now your phone! Wow such 21st century! Many future! So scifi! There's a problem, though, that apparently that silly Federal gubbamint says that any phone system needs to relay location data when a 911 call is made, so they know where to send the SWAT teams. How this works is Fucking Magic to legislators and the general public, but as a savvy IT professional you understand that what it means is that your telephony app has to be granted permissions by Location Services to share that location data.

Except, unlike in the hoary days of 2020, there's much less in-your-face notification about this, and your phone works perfectly well if you never grant this permission. So despite our pleadings, many people don't turn this on.

Last week we went on organization-wide lockdown after a (hoaxed, as it turns out) terrorist threat was made. Once the xanax had worn off and everyone's assholes unclenched, we began a furious round of finger pointing about all the things that could have been done differently, and as it turns out auditing who hasn't turned on Location Services and made sure our telephony app has access has come into the crosshairs.

So I'm stuck between Apple's snotty indifference to the needs of corporate customers, the laws of the Federal government, and an organization-wide moral panic, and have spent the past day and a half figuring out how to extract this info.

(For the real nerds: Finding out if Location Services is enabled or not is actually pretty easy; the trick is figuring out which users have given which apps permission. Parsing the /var/db/locationd/clients.plist seems one way to do this, but it seems Apple changed how the formatting of that plist works over the last 3 versions, and I'm not 100% clear if interrogating it only tells me what the setting is for the current console user, which is *probably* Good Enough... if that's the case, which I'm not sure of!)
 
So I'm stuck between Apple's snotty indifference to the needs of corporate customers, the laws of the Federal government, and an organization-wide moral panic, and have spent the past day and a half figuring out how to extract this info.
Apple's own tools for AppleCare use a "Promote User" tool that gives the user administrative rights for 30 minutes that gives them the deep control needed to make key changes. And that took can be activated at any time without needing to have permission from it or a manager.

They really do the bare minimum to make the os work on business uses. Every time I start up the iMac I have to enter my password three times, my full username and domain once, agree to a terms and conditions, and dismiss a notice that a backup called "Not the backup" is unavailable. And sometimes I get a request for a FaceTime or messenger password despite those apps being disabled.
 
Apple's own tools for AppleCare use a "Promote User" tool that gives the user administrative rights for 30 minutes that gives them the deep control needed to make key changes. And that took can be activated at any time without needing to have permission from it or a manager.

They really do the bare minimum to make the os work on business uses. Every time I start up the iMac I have to enter my password three times, my full username and domain once, agree to a terms and conditions, and dismiss a notice that a backup called "Not the backup" is unavailable. And sometimes I get a request for a FaceTime or messenger password despite those apps being disabled.

We use an in-house modified version of Rich Trouton's Privileges app to do a similar thing, since our security team decided a number of years ago that everyone shouldn't be an administrator all the time - which, to be totally fair, is a defensible security practice with a pedigree going back the the goddamn 1970s.

It's really funny that Apple made this commercial:
and yet, almost 2 decades later, we're in basically the same boat.
 
There's some mental health monitoring features coming to the Health app.

Apple's health apps and hardware is pretty thorough. I'm convinced that they will eventually start offering telephone medical staff like prescribing doctors, even more then the AppleCare medical devices department.
 
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Typing this on my M3 Air. Loving it, I am actually really happy with the purchase, I was thinking I was going to find a ton of stuff to nitpick. In reality the hardware is excellent, and the user experience has been a real treat. The issues I have are solely because I havnt used OS X in over 15 years so I just dont know what I am doing with a lot of it, but slowly I am figuring it out.

I think my favorite aspect is that everything is just so quick to do. I press a hotkey, open Alfred and just type what I need. The speed of general use like web browsing and office tools is insane, even compared to my decent gaming desktop.

Speaking of Alfred, anyone have a recommendation on if I should pay for the full version? I tried it and Raycast, but I like Alfred because its one less button press to do stuff.
 
Speaking of Alfred, anyone have a recommendation on if I should pay for the full version? I tried it and Raycast, but I like Alfred because its one less button press to do stuff.
I prefer Raycast, not sure if Alfred has community plugins but having them in Raycast really amps up the usability. The AI features are nice but the general quality of life stuff inbuilt like window and clipboard management, file search, running code snippets etc makes it really powerful.
 
I prefer Raycast, not sure if Alfred has community plugins but having them in Raycast really amps up the usability. The AI features are nice but the general quality of life stuff inbuilt like window and clipboard management, file search, running code snippets etc makes it really powerful.

Alfreds full version has scripts that you can run that do similar things. The thing I hated about Raycast is that it was always an extra button press, which sounds really lazy but for my purposes it just wasnt a good experience. Maybe I have Raycast set up wrong but I had to do stuff like

Raycast->Type Youtube -> scroll down to youtube-> press enter

Alfred-> Type youtube -> Press enter

The free version of Raycast is better with the plugins, but the paid version of Alfred is a one time purchase and allows community scripts which do similar things. Im not a programmer or even a power user so in the end its not a huge deal, but I have already caught myself using the Alfred shortcut dozens of times because it makes navigating so simple.
 
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Isn't it practically a meme to use PC parts picker or something else to figure out how to build a computer, even laptop, that's more powerful than an equivalent mac computer at a fraction of the cost?
There's basically two categories of computer where I consider Apple to be potentially superior to conventional commodity PC offerings:

1) Laptops
2) Absurdly high-end desktops like the Mac Studio or Mac Pro using M2 Ultra.

And neither of these are a matter of price, but of secondary factors. For laptops, the battery life and build quality are insane and blow pretty much anything else out of the water (assuming you're fine with MacOS). And for the high-end desktops, they're nice because you can get something comparable to HEDT performance without necessarily needing to devote an entire 20A circuit to a computer (assuming you live in North America or Japan).

Also the Mac Mini is kind of hard to beat at its price point - I can't think of many mini PCs that can significantly beat it on price while offering comparable performance.
 
The lack of useful ports get to me tho. You need dongles and adapters for absolutely everything including a basic bitch usb drive, and the entire thing is starting to seem ghetto as fuck to me.
 
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Announced today:
  • iPad Air: M2 chip, 11 & 13-inch models starting @ $599 and $799 respectively, 128/256/512GB/1TB storage options
  • iPad Pro -
    • 11 & 13-inch models, starting @ $999 and $1199, 0.98 lbs & 1.28 lbs respectively
    • 256/512GB/1TB/2TB storage options.
    • "Tandem OLED" display, two OLED displays laid on top of each other. Achieves "Ultra Retina XDR," 1000nits SDR & HDR brightness, 1600nits peak HDR brightness.
    • M4 chip, 2nd-gen 3nm process. 4P6E-core CPU with Machine learning acceleration, 10-core GPU.
  • New Magic Keyboards for 11 & 13-inch models, $299 and $329 respectively.
  • New Apple Pencil, $129.
 
ipad pro (A$999 - 1200) with <= 512gb ram has:
  • m4 9-core CPU with 3 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores
  • 8GB RAM
pros with 1tb storage and beyond (A$1600 - $2000):
  • m4 10-core CPU with 4 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores
  • 12GB RAM
  • "Nano-texture display glass" upgrade option for an extra A$100
If you didn't hate Apple's sleazy pricing ladder before you sure will now.
 
Holy shit this is one of the most globalhomo-fied things I've ever seen.
"Everything you love and admire will be destroyed to shill our newest piece of underpowered overpriced shit, goyim"
No wonder Japs are losing their shit over it.
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Who asked for this iPad? Why make it thin at all?

The best part about post Jony Ive Apple has been the hardware side getting its act together design wise. My iPhone is thicker, but its battery and performance is excellent, same with my Macbook Air. They talked about the iPads battery being good, but why go for thinness at all? People dont want that anymore.

They clearly had nothing to offer with this lineup besides the spec bump. I am now pretty immersed in the Apple ecosystem with my new computer, and I have zero desire to buy this iPad. I cannot wait to watch someone bend it in half with their bare hands.
 
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