Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

They really do need to bring the Mini back, though. And not some disgusting cut down version like the 16e, the real thing.

My oldest daughter has the 13 mini and it’s perfect for her. Really dread have to buy her the 16e.

 

[Rob Wolchek]

Modern macOS is so buggy. I'm not even sure that they do any QA. I miss the cat days.

Agree and disagree. Before I switched to a base model M4 MBP, my 2020 Intel MBP fucking sucked as new versions of macOS came out. Wouldn't take much to have the thing hot enough to cook an egg on and have regular kernel panics over a new Firefox tab. I got this M4 a few months ago, and it has been insanely fucking fast, with it only getting hot if I'm rendering videos or playing a game. Battery life is really decent, I'm not regretting having this off charge like I did with Intel. Unsure what you're using, but I'm not surprised if it's Intel, Apple obviously has no interest optimizing anything for it.

 

[khaine]

Nah, I have an M1 Max MBP. My issues are with things like NetworknExtensions. There are bugs if you use more than one (like a firewall and a vpn). There are issues with Time Machine taking up 100% CPU. The fact that sometimes parts of the settings up will crash and you can't get them to reload to look at or change things.

Bugs, not performance issues.

 

[Doggo]

Well, I just upgraded from a very tired old iPhone 11 to a 16 pro. It’s my first current-gen iPhone since my 6s plus, the 11 being the cheaper model as the 12s were out. I’m still setting it up but I already love it.

I’ve also found an OOBE bug. If you are using another Apple device (in my case my iPad) as a hotspot during setup, it’ll stay stuck on verifying update forever. When I got home and connected it to my wifi, the download started immediately. I’m gonna report that one.

 

[Fcret]

Well, I just upgraded from a very tired old iPhone 11 to a 16 pro. It’s my first current-gen iPhone since my 6s plus, the 11 being the cheaper model as the 12s were out. I’m still setting it up but I already love it.

I’ve also found an OOBE bug. If you are using another Apple device (in my case my iPad) as a hotspot during setup, it’ll stay stuck on verifying update forever. When I got home and connected it to my wifi, the download started immediately. I’m gonna report that one.

Any reason you opted for the 16 pro over the 16? Not throwing shade or anything, I'm just curious as to what sorts of stuff entices people to get the pro.

 

[Doggo]

Any reason you opted for the 16 pro over the 16? Not throwing shade or anything, I'm just curious as to what sorts of stuff entices people to get the pro.

A bit of a story, but it was what they had. I got the phone $500 off at a pawnbrokers. We just had a natural disaster directly (but only mildly) affect us, and there was a payout from the government. I used this, and my partner took up the rest because it was my birthday.

I was looking on our version of Craigslist for a 15 Pro, since it was only a little over budget. I found this 16 Pro for a bit more, and I was able to stretch to it.

When I went to have a look at the phone, it had zero battery cycles and three weeks left for apple care. Someone had bought it, used it for a few days, and hocked it. Unfortunately, there is a small scratch in the middle of the screen, but it’s impossible to see 98% of the time, so I’ll take it for $500 off. I wish I noticed it in the store, because I probably could have taken even more off.

If you want to ask me which one I’d choose given the choice, it would be the pro every time. I’m a photographer so I care about a good camera, and the best camera is the one you have with you. I also appreciate the little pro features, like the flashlight with the adjustable beam, faster (I think?) charging, definitely the better screen, and whatever little niceties they have.

It’s been a week now and I love it. It turns out one of my friends got a 16 nothing on the same day. He went for the 16 over the pro because he didn’t really care about that stuff, and because he wanted blue. He wears his phone naked and has apple care, which I’m going to try to at least do the latter of, if not the former. I would like to actually be able to appreciate the build quality of my phone instead of wrapping the thing in a cheap case which will turn back into oil given enough time. Ditto a screen protector made out of old IKEA glasses.

Edit: actually, the case does have one weird trick. It has a metal fold-out stand. That’s been handy more than once.

 

[Joe Swanson]

Any reason you opted for the 16 pro over the 16? Not throwing shade or anything, I'm just curious as to what sorts of stuff entices people to get the pro.

They're generally nicer then the non-pro iPhones, and should theoretically last longer before needing to be upgraded.

 

[Patrick Bait-man]

He wears his phone naked

Modern iPhones are built to be strong and resilient. Phone cases and screen protectors are mainly used today as insurance for retards that don't take care of their phones; I've seen people with both of them equipped that still have nasty beaten up phones.

Naked phone chads FTW.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

Modern iPhones are built to be strong and resilient. Phone cases and screen protectors are mainly used today as insurance for retards that don't take care of their phones; I've seen people with both of them equipped that still have nasty beaten up phones.

Naked phone chads FTW.

I’ll meet you half way. A decent (Spigen or equivalent) screen protector and the rest as naked as the day it was made.
It’s surprising how many people comment to me about not having a case. “What happens if you drop it?” And my answer is a simple “I won’t.”

ETA-

Screen protectors are one of my major bugbears. I didn’t buy my 16 Pro Max and iPad Pro just to have the pinnacle of consumer electronics displays degraded by the cheapest white label chink screen protector that Amazon could shit out. With Apples autistic attention to colour reproduction on their pro displays and True Tone on top I don’t see why anyone would want do that to themselves.

 

[Susanna]

Screen protectors are one of my major bugbears. I didn’t buy my 16 Pro Max and iPad Pro just to have the pinnacle of consumer electronics displays degraded by the cheapest white label chink screen protector that Amazon could shit out. With Apples autistic attention to colour reproduction on their pro displays and True Tone on top I don’t see why anyone would want do that to themselves.

The exception I’ll make is for the ”paperlike” screen protectors. I put one on my iPad Mini to give the Pencil more friction so it’ll feel better to write and draw with, and it did improve the Pencil to the point where I’m okay with sacrificing the visual quality of the screen for it.

 

[Almighty Space Duck]

The exception I’ll make is for the ”paperlike” screen protectors. I put one on my iPad Mini to give the Pencil more friction so it’ll feel better to write and draw with, and it did improve the Pencil to the point where I’m okay with sacrificing the visual quality of the screen for it.

I have looked into those, whatever the one that the influencer/notion crowd seem to bang on about. Could never justify it, the thing that turns my handwriting into text works fine enough and I don’t draw.
I could perhaps see it being useful in Fusion? But I’ll have to see how things pan out when my 3D printer arrives. To be honest I doubt I’ll use the iPad Fusion app when I’ve a perfectly good MBP to use.
Also, how’s the wear on the pencil tips with those paperlikes? I’ve heard mixed things.

 

[Susanna]

Also, how’s the wear on the pencil tips with those paperlikes? I’ve heard mixed things.

Minimal so far. I ruin my tips by dropping the Pencil on concrete too often for tip wear from the minimally abrasive screen protector to make much difference.

 

[Doggo]

A few weeks later with this 16 Pro, I absolutely love it. Weirdly a couple of bugs I’ve been having in Telegram also exist on this phone/iOS install. Maybe Telegram will fix their shit someday. Maybe.

Apart from that, this thing runs like a raped ape. To think that it benchmarks roughly equivalent to an M1 is wild to me. Good battery life too. Amazing cameras. All in all it’s a better phone in literally every way.

I am interested in upgrading fairly quickly, though, as I’d really like a 48MP telephoto camera. We’ll see what happens.

Also, rumour has it that iOS is getting Samsung DeX-like functionality this year, so you’ll be able to plug your phone into a display and run desktop apps on that display. If it happens, it’ll be about damn time.

 

[Susanna]

Also, rumour has it that iOS is getting Samsung DeX-like functionality this year, so you’ll be able to plug your phone into a display and run desktop apps on that display. If it happens, it’ll be about damn time.

Bye bye shitty Windows work laptops, hello brilliant do-it-all work phone!

 

[Total Annihilation]

Any idea if this means that I'll be able to sideload torrent and hacked music client apps? The reddit fags are mad it'll make it worse for small developers or some dumb cope.

https://www.theverge.com/news/659246/apple-epic-app-store-judge-ruling-control

Archive link: Here

 

[Susanna]

Any idea if this means that I'll be able to sideload torrent and hacked music client apps? The reddit fags are mad it'll make it worse for small developers or some dumb cope.

https://www.theverge.com/news/659246/apple-epic-app-store-judge-ruling-control

Archive link: Here

No. What it means is Apple won't be allowed to ban your app from the app store if your "buy a subscription" button takes them to a website where they can pay without Apple getting a cut.
Reddit is retarded as ever, this is actually great news for small developers since it means they can go from paying Apple a 30% cut on all purchases, to paying PayPal/VISA/Mastercard ~3% cut.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

If Reddit is up in arms over something like that, then they might have proven that there are no depths to which they can't sink.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

If Reddit is up in arms over something like that, then they might have proven that there are no depths to which they can't sink.

They proved that LONG ago.

 

[Jerk Sausage]

This year I put my Windows desktop in the closet and switched to using a Macbook Pro (M4 Pro) as my lone computer. For 30 years I used Windows desktops and slowly watched it become shit. I'm not a hardcore "PC Gamer" anymore. After trying Windows 11 and seeing that they still haven't fixed:
- Hit Start.
- Type in the name of a program I have installed
- Wait for seconds for it to ping the internet, come back with a Bing result, before letting me hit enter on the program I have installed.
After that I went to an Apple store and tried the same thing in Spotlight. Whaddya know? It gives me the program result immediately and allows me to hit Enter on it immediately, and then searches the internet afterwards. What a concept!

I've gone to Linux desktop a few times but I don't enjoy customizing, updating or dealing with workarounds for things. MacOS seems to be made for me. Everything is pretty pleasant by default, and responsive. It's faster than my desktop's Ryzen 4950x for my software development needs, and being in a Unix environment is much nicer than Powershell/WSL2 shit on Windows. Terminal works basically for everything I liked Linux for.

Now I'm looking at my Android phone and thinking the same thing: Have I been wrong the whole time? I really don't enjoy spending much time on phones and have fewer annoyances using it, so I'll probably wait until the phone breaks before considering switching that too.

 

[Fcret]

Now I'm looking at my Android phone and thinking the same thing: Have I been wrong the whole time? I really don't enjoy spending much time on phones and have fewer annoyances using it, so I'll probably wait until the phone breaks before considering switching that too.

I recently switched from Android to iPhone and if you're mostly interested in the "out of the box" experience without needing to fiddle with settings or install custom roms, then iPhone is leagues ahead in terms of the quality of the experience and iPhones aren't even that much more expensive than comparable Android phones these days.

Obviously you do forego some stuff - you can't sideload apps anymore (well you can but there's a ton of limitations), the options for customizing the UI are much more limited, and if you're a burger then you're heavily incentivized to move towards eSIM. Most of these aren't really that much of an issue if you use your phone as a phone though.

I also got into the "Apple ecosystem" by switching to a macbook as well and one of the things that immediately becomes apparent once you start buying other stuff in the ecosystem is how neatly everything ties together. I can answer calls/SMS on my macbook and even mirror my phone screen to it. Airdrop is insanely convenient for moving files between them. And my airpods switch seamlessly between my phone and my laptop without needing to mess with bluetooth shit - it just works. Obviously there's ways to get some semblance of this over in Android-land but it's always a pain in the ass to setup and likes to randomly break.