Apple Thread - The most overrated technology brand?

What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 60 12.2%

  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 431 87.8%
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Pissmaster said:
Horrifying rating because:




like I know that includes people who just have the cheapest iCloud storage option and people who just have Apple Arcade but damn man, I don't know a single person with a sub to any of those
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I don't have the numbers in front of me but I think it's a safe bet that Apple Music is actually their most popular paid service.
 
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Here we go, yet another Apple Event. Apple just sent out emails. November 10 (a week from tomorrow) at 10:00 AM PT.

We're expecting details, including release dates, of the first Apple Silicon Macs, and possibly the last round of Intel Macs. The latter might be in the form of a 16" MBP and the former will be in smaller/cheaper laptops and possibly a smaller Mac Pro because apparently Apple wants to make that mistake again: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-nov-10-event-to-announce-macs-with-own-chips
 
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Oh god, Apple, don't try that smaller MacPro again. You did it with the Cube and with the trash can, both... were meh.

That being said, yes, the rumours are currently pointing at a 13 inch MacBook Air, and a 13 inch MacBook Pro. But there's also 21 inch iMac, 16 inch MacBook Pro, 24 inch iMac, etc.
 
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That being said, yes, the rumours are currently pointing at a 13 inch MacBook Air, and a 13 inch MacBook Pro. But there's also 21 inch iMac, 16 inch MacBook Pro, 24 inch iMac, etc.
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Are you referring to rumors specifically about new Apple Silicon Macs? or general refreshes of those lines?

My feeling is that they'll release a 16-inch MacBook Pro w/ 10th-gen Intel and the first Apple Silicon Macs will be plain old "MacBooks" for the first ~6-12 months. It would be smart for them to just do away with MacBook Air and replace it entirely with the Apple Silicon MacBook. The "Air" branding doesn't even make sense anymore, given that current MacBook Pros are just barely heavier and are actually thinner (when comparing the thickest point of the folded body) than MacBook Airs.
 
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I have an old huwite Macbook from early 2008 (with 4gigs of ram) and since the system is slow and I can't get the latest versions of Firefox (or install Brave) I was wondering what I should do with it. I'm tempted to add a SSD and install Manjaro.
 
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I have an old huwite Macbook from early 2008 (with 4gigs of ram) and since the system is slow and I can't get the latest versions of Firefox (or install Brave) I was wondering what I should do with it. I'm tempted to add a SSD and install Manjaro.
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Certainly get an SSD for that MacBook, it should speed things up immensely, and you can upgrade the RAM on your model to 6 GB (667 MHz PC2-5300).
 
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A couple of A14X (for reference, the X and Zs are larger, more powerful versions of the As that appear in iPad Pros, the occasional Air, and whenever the AppleTV gets updated) benchmarks have been reported, which show some interesting results.

The A14X is the standard 4x4 configuration, clocks at 1.8 GHz, but boosts up to 3.1 GHz, with 8 GB RAM.
Single core was 1634, which is very slightly above the A14's 1583.
Multicore is 7220, compared to the A14's 4198 and the A12Z's 4657.

16 inch MacBook Pro with the 9th gen i9 scores 1096 and 6869, respectively. (And that's the top end model, the base clocks in at 1017 and 5337.)

Now, while it's mostly in line with what was expected, there's some caveats, namely, is it a Mac (and if so, what type) or a iPad Pro tested.
 
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I wanna sell my iPhone X and get a flagship Android phone (such as Oneplus 8 Pro), what will I miss?
Last Android phone I owned was a Note 3 and it was pretty shit.
 
L13utenant said:
I wanna sell my iPhone X and get a flagship Android phone (such as Oneplus 8 Pro), what will I miss?
Last Android phone I owned was a Note 3 and it was pretty shit.
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It's hard to say what you'll miss about subjective things like look and feel. It's definitely a difference in that regard, and enough to be annoying. More concretely, the first thing that comes to mind is that if you count on Apple's Keychain (built-in password manager) to manage your passwords, expect those all to be gone, so expect to be using the "Reset Password" feature of everything you log into. I suggest you hold on to your iPhone at least until you have all of your email accounts working on the new phone as well as any two-factor authentication apps you use like Google Authenticator or Authy. If you don't already use Google's spyware services like GMail and Google Calendar (or whatever it's called), it's probably a good idea to get an account for that up now and let it import all of your phone's contacts and events so that you don't lose those too. And of course you're going have to say goodbye to any third-party apps and games you have that don't have Android equivalents. EDIT: You might have to migrate any Safari bookmarks you want to keep by hand as well. Maybe copy-and-paste the URLs into an email to yourself.

Really, unless you're already using Google's crap for everything, I imagine switching to Android is going to be at least a minor pain in the ass, but there are people who have done so and are happy, so good for them.

So the "special event" is tomorrow. I've been keeping an eye on MacRumors all day but there's been no concrete leaks about what will be announced, unlike September's and October's. I might have to be AFK during the event itself, so I'm kinda salty because I'm really curious what both the first gen of Silicon Macs and the last gen of Intel Macs are gonna look like. I guess I'll just have to suffer for a couple hours knowing that some people know more than me about a particular brand of consumer electronics. Life is pain.
 
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L13utenant said:
I wanna sell my iPhone X and get a flagship Android phone (such as Oneplus 8 Pro), what will I miss?
Last Android phone I owned was a Note 3 and it was pretty shit.
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Galaxy Notes have been good starting with the Note 8, the Note 7 battery explosion debacle really packed Samsung's shit in. They also don't use cheap RAM or whatever made their older Androids crap out in like a year, so there's that. Then again, Galaxy Notes also cost as much as high-end iPhones too so if you don't wanna spend serious skrilla, don't bother.

Everything I used on iOS had an Android equivalent, there doesn't seem to be much left that's exclusive to one platform or another anymore. The smattering of things that are Android exclusive are always because of Apple's autistic control over their app store, like how they won't allow remote game streaming services or emulators.

You might miss Apple's keyboard. Maybe it's just me, but for whatever reason, iOS has always been unparalleled for phone keyboards. Samsung's keyboard is alright, and SwiftKey's the best one I've found.

Camera quality for Androids tend to be a step or two behind iPhones, though I'm not sure how much that matters at this point because even flagship Androids from two years ago can shoot reasonably competent 4k60 footage, though then again phone cameras never adopted optical zooming, but instead just slapping on multiple fixed lenses at different zoom levels and the quality can be all over the place. Check reviews and comparisons first if that's important to you

And if you're clumsy, it's a good idea to look into availability of replacement parts and just how repairable the phone is. Apple stuff's extremely popular, so it's trivial to find replacement screens and batteries, but Androids can be all over the place. Samsung stuff is readily available, I'd imagine OnePlus probably is too, considering their popularity, but that's a serious danger if you go with an obscure brand.
 
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I just saw a snippet of the Apple event. They're releasing a MacBook Air with their ARM-based M1 chip that apparently is faster than most other laptops.

Edit: Heh, they brought back PC from those old Mac vs. PC ads for the ending of the event
 
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tl;dr, new processor is the M1, made on 5 nm process, in the MacBook Air, Mac Mini and MacBook Pro 13 inch. Supports Thunderbolt 4 and USB 4.

Up to 3.5x faster CPU, 6x GPU, and 15x neural learning over previous models. 8-16 GB RAM, up to 2 TB SSD.

MacBook Air is fanless, Mac Mini drops by $100. MacBook Pro has goddamn 17-20 hour battery life. Orders start today, and ship next week.
 
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L13utenant said:
I thought ARM was going to make Macs cheaper?
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Cheaper to manufacture, sure. But nobody promised us they'd pass the savings on to us - this is Apple we're talking about here. Regardless, I think they did, kind of - aside from the Mini being cheaper, which they advertised, a 13" Silicon MBP with 512GB storage and 16GB memory (8GB base plus a $200 upgrade) is $1700, whereas the same with an i5 is $1800.

My prediction that we'd see new Intel Macs has clearly not come to pass. I thought Apple had said they were going to introduce new Intels this year. I guess there's still next month, but… I'm a little hesitant to make the switch to ARM when I don't know if I'll be able to do any of the important parts of my workflow on it. I'm a little bummed because I was all but certain I'd be charging a new toy to my credit card today… I'm a sad little consoomer.
 
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Okay, some further deets have come out. Two variants of M1, one with a 7 core GPU for the base Air, and one with 8 core GPU for mid-range Airs, the Pro and the Mini.

Benchmarks on Apple's site showing 5x-6x better graphics performance? Shadow of the Tomb Raider, 1920x1060, medium graphics. If that holds up, that puts it dangerously, dangerously close to a nVidia 1060 6 GB.

Wifi 6 is standard, ports are Thunderbolt 3/USB4. eGPU support's dead, however.
 
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eGPU support's dead, however.
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None of these devices use anything other than the integrated GPU for that matter. Can't help but wonder if that's a limitation of the first generation of this thing; they didn't get around to support for "external" (to the SoC) GPUs. After all it's not a problem they had to solve for the iOS devices…
 
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