Are Green Initiatives doing more harm than good? - Paying Regimes that hate you for fuel instead of producing your own

Alexander Thaut said:
wonder how many people believe in thorium reactors because of that sam o nella video.
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I'm not gonna lie, it got me thinking. I did further research on my own, though. This was at least 5 years ago, and I could never claim it was a particularly comprehensive or deep dive. There's really no need to become an expert on something you're never going to be in a position to effect meaningfully in any way.
 
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I'm happy for my taxes to go up if that means we start seriously considering nuclear/alternative sources of power.

I bought a hybrid and jammed a 2jzgte into a old BMW to have my money both ways.

Ironically right now I'm only driving the bmw on the weekend and the hybrid everywhere else.
 
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Getwhatyou said:
I'm happy for my taxes to go up if that means we start seriously considering nuclear/alternative sources of power.

I bought a hybrid and jammed a 2jzgte into a old BMW to have my money both ways.

Ironically right now I'm only driving the bmw on the weekend and the hybrid everywhere else.
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That's blasphemy, but at least it's still an inline 6 in a bimmer.
 
Getwhatyou said:
Not going to lie it does bother the purists. E28 535 if you know your bmws. Atleast I didn't do it to a e30 coupe. Might get lynched
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That's a decent swap since it's an older gen 5er. It wouldn't make much sense to swap in a E60 or E39.
 
Car Won't Crank said:
That's a decent swap since it's an older gen 5er. It wouldn't make much sense to swap in a E60 or E39.
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The 4 door feels great with it. E39+ have mostly great platforms in thier own right probably faster and lighter than the 2jz too.

Getting parts these days for old bmws are getting expensive even living in Europe.
 
Getwhatyou said:
The 4 door feels great with it. E39+ have mostly great platforms in thier own right probably faster and lighter than the 2jz too.

Getting parts these days for old bmws are getting expensive even living in Europe.
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It depends on how old. I haven't had too many issues getting parts for my E38 and E46 yet.
 
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Regarding wind power, has anyone mentioned the ongoing issue of blade waste?

Fortunately if the EV Revolution stays on course, we will eventually have plenty of played-out strip mine pits to dump our broken wind turbine blades into. It's the perfect plan, paisanos. 🤌♻️🌏
 
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Ser Prize said:
I mean, water wheels are as old as the hills.
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Water wheels are a thing of the past, maybe small towns lost in the middle of nowhere and the amish still use them, but for the most part, hydroelectricity is generated by dams which damage the environment.

You want to know why solar was the best "green" energy source? It's simply because they don't take nearly as much space as some other green energies (dams), they work atleast for a full 12 hours (unlike windmills), they don't disrupt/damage the environment surrounding them nearly as much as other alternatives (a dam is bad for the fishes who live in its pond, metallic windmills have killed distracted birds before and they disrupt the normal flow of wind, geothermal is one of the causes of earthquakes). The only thing I've heard about solar energy that was bad was the fact that it causes pollution (How much?), they prevent the sun from hitting the ground due to excessive use (How's that bad?) and they need maintenance because they break down easily.

There's not a single clean "green" energy if you look deep into it, any "green" energy causes harm to the environment to some extent. I'm also sceptical of nuclear plants despite the praise they get here because if they blow up I'm going to either die from radiation poisoning or I'll have to abandon my home. Maybe Thorium is way better than Uranium in that regard I don't know really, but I wouldn't want to bet on this.
 
Kiwi & Cow said:
because if they blow up I'm going to either die from radiation poisoning or I'll have to abandon my home. Maybe Thorium is way better than Uranium in that regard I don't know really, but I wouldn't want to bet on this.
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You're misinformed. Nuclear plants aren't made like nuclear bombs: they use the infused uranium/thorium to heat up water and have the resulting steam turn turbines. Even in the worst case scenario the plant won't explode.

And if your counterpoint is "Chernobyl/Fukushima" you got to remember that both of those were made with very old designs and, in the case of Fukushima, only happened because of a natural fucking disaster. And from Fukushima only one person has died.

Quit letting them manipulate you via your feelings.
 
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Ser Prize said:
Nuclear plants aren't made like nuclear bombs
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Where did I say that? You made that one up.
Ser Prize said:
they use the infused uranium/thorium to heat up water and have the resulting steam turn turbines. Even in the worst case scenario the plant won't explode.
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In the case of Chernobyl, the generators heated up and melted down, this resulted in a blast that destroyed reactor 4. The whole sector didn't explode as if a giant nuke fell down from the sky, but the damage was still noticeable.
Ser Prize said:
And if your counterpoint is "Chernobyl/Fukushima" you got to remember that both of those were made with very old designs and, in the case of Fukushima, only happened because of a natural fucking disaster. And from Fukushima only one person has died.
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They still happened and Chernobyl was almost entirely due to human error, an event like Chernobyl can happen twice even with modern technologies. I also really don't care if it only happened a few times when the damage it does is far bigger than anything else you can think of. Nukes are far less destructive in the long term than a plant going off like the one at Chernobyl. It is estimated that over thousands of people might have died of premature cancer caused by the radiation and the area around the nuclear plant is inhospitable for over a few hundred years at minimum if not more, I will die of old age before anyone can safely live in Chernobyl.
Obviously the nuke explodes in mid-air whilst the plant is on the ground, so the uranium will dissipate quickly with a nuke, but not with a power plant. The reactor at Fukushima was also lucky that it was near the sea when it got destroyed.
Ser Prize said:
Quit letting them manipulate you via your feelings.
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Oh the irony coming from you.
 
Retired Junta Member said:
Green initiatives in the West will always be useless and nocive while India and most Asia is basically using oceans as dumpsters and destroying their domestic environments at the speed of light.
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That's why it's laughable when western countries like the US and UK act all high and lofty about reducing their net carbon output when all they've done is outsource manufacturing to China, Bangladesh, India etc.
 
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Kiwi & Cow said:
Where did I say that? You made that one up.

In the case of Chernobyl, the generators heated up and melted down, this resulted in a blast that destroyed reactor 4. The whole sector didn't explode as if a giant nuke fell down from the sky, but the damage was still noticeable.

They still happened and Chernobyl was almost entirely due to human error, an event like Chernobyl can happen twice even with modern technologies. I also really don't care if it only happened a few times when the damage it does is far bigger than anything else you can think of. Nukes are far less destructive in the long term than a plant going off like the one at Chernobyl. It is estimated that over thousands of people might have died of premature cancer caused by the radiation and the area around the nuclear plant is inhospitable for over a few hundred years at minimum if not more, I will die of old age before anyone can safely live in Chernobyl.
Obviously the nuke explodes in mid-air whilst the plant is on the ground, so the uranium will dissipate quickly with a nuke, but not with a power plant. The reactor at Fukushima was also lucky that it was near the sea when it got destroyed.

Oh the irony coming from you.
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You were the one who talked about nuclear reactors exploding like it's fucking Fallout. Chernobyl was a case of everything that can go wrong did go wrong compounded with human error, newer reactor designs make it so another chernobyl can't happen.
 
Ser Prize said:
You were the one who talked about nuclear reactors exploding like it's fucking Fallout. Chernobyl was a case of everything that can go wrong did go wrong compounded with human error, newer reactor designs make it so another chernobyl can't happen.
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I mean it kind of is when the area is so bad for people that the only living things there are plants and wild animals that still get cancer and die due to radiation. No, human error was the only cause to that meltdown, just read what underwent during the reactor's maintenance testing. Newer reactor designs can't stop stupid people from doing stupid things unless it's automated by an AI at which no person can cause another accident.
 
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I mean it kind of is when the area is so bad for people that the only living things there are plants and wild animals that still get cancer and die due to radiation. No, human error was the only cause to that meltdown, just read what underwent during the reactor's maintenance testing. Newer reactor designs can't stop stupid people from doing stupid things unless it's automated by an AI at which no person can cause another accident.
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What are you on about? Chernobyl isn't a wasteland right now. It's a borderline wildlife sanctuary and animals are getting on fine. This is what I meant when I said don't think with your emotions, because it makes you really easy to manipulate. They say "OH NO CHERNOBYL IS A RADIOACTIVE DEADZONE BUT THANKFULLY WE HAVE ALL THESE CLEAN SAFE ENERGY SOURCES" and you fucking believe them.

Do you know wind turbines fuck up bird migration something fierce, on top of being very inefficient? Do you know that solar panels have lingering effects on where they're set up on top of fucking things up for birds? The heat gets reflected up into the air.
 
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