Are Green Initiatives doing more harm than good? - Paying Regimes that hate you for fuel instead of producing your own

[Kiwi & Cow]

there should be some Nirvana solution to these problems which is not feasible.

Solar panels are, you fucking retard.

yet you're still here and making the most of existence.

Ditto, what are you doing here nigger? I only post here because it's the last place that allows free speech that isn't literally boomer Gab.ai or Parler.

Never did I make those assertions with such conviction, I don't make such stringent conclusions.

Niggerfaggot, your whole premise is that nuclear plants can't ever go wrong and thus everyone should use them over anything else. It's literally "muh nuclear plants safe" without outright stating it and you know it.

Chernobyl and Fukushima underwent meltdowns not outright fissile explosions, seriously at least learn the bare minimum of nuclear physics and mechanics before you spout off. Reactors grade uranium is not weapons grade uranium.

It's clear we don't have the same definition of what constitutes an explosion. When there was a large fire ball coming out of the nuclear plant of Chernobyl, THAT WAS an explosion. There was a meltdown, but also an explosion. Eh whatever I don't care, at the end off the day the nuclear plants went off regardless.

Chernobyl, Fukushima, Three Mile Island are the exceptions, not the rule. There are literally hundreds of nuclear fission power plants in the world today with very little incidents in their history, not even close to the travesties aforementioned.

"Muh nuclear plants r saef" You would make a great Fauci puppet.

Honestly the only person here that even convinced me to be less sceptical about nuclear energy was NewRetroVagina23 because I thought solar energy alone could replace nuclear, neither you nor Ser Prize could convince me otherwise because you held onto your same barfed arguments that I've heard dozens of times already from this thread. Good golly, you expect anyone to change their mind when you can't even do the basic of changing your own arguments for a start.

Also you fucking wonder why most people don't trust nuclear energy, it's because they think there's safer alternatives to that. Here's your answer, your inability to actually cover the issue of a possible meltdown/explosion/shitshow does not make people support nuclear and multiple people here share those concerns too. If the nuclear plants were properly supervised including failsafes in case of an accident, plus possibly having to be entirely automated rather than allowing any person near it, then I would fully support it. I already support small-scale generators running in Uranium because I know that if an accident happens it won't cause nearly as much damage as a power plant. Hell even in the case of generators, there was an accident involving a submarine where the generator became very radioactive and the crew on board got sick to some extent.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Oh yeah, almost forgot about the almost obsessive testing of nukes the US did back in the mid 1900s. Bikini Atoll was a popular site along with mid air explosions. Besides, hasn't the US Navy been using nuclear powered ships and submarines for a while now? That should speak to the reliability of more modern nuclear power plants operated with proper oversight.

Ok you know what, they should build a nuclear plant at the same place they nuked, I'd fully support that initiative.

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

The way you keep sperging and filling the responses with blathering nonsense makes me perceive like you're undergoing your own meltdown with the byproduct of ionizing radiation - retardium

You basically answered your own concern here you imbecile.

"Supervised failsafes with automation."

What did you think they were doing this entire time? Don't accuse me of failing to tailor my argument if you don't even understand how you even undercut your own here yet arrived at the proper conclusion purely through ignorance.

Solar panels are not a viable replacement. The mining, disposal, and construction are very much damaging to the environment, exponentially so if they were to be produced en masse on a global scale. Our energy demands are too high as it is, and they only rise higher each decade - well past what photovoltaic technology can progress in time to meet.

 

[Eydallur]

Hell even in the case of generators, there was an accident involving a submarine where the generator became very radioactive and the crew on board got sick to some extent.

What on earth are you talking about?
What the fuck is a nuclear generator?
"AN" accident?

I'm not the dunce you're replying to but come on, at least mention this accident by name. There have been many incidents onboard submarines which have resulted in crew being exposed to significant radioactive contamination. Dyatlov, the shift supervisor at chernobyl had even been involved in one, yet he still found work in the field. Nuclear safety in the soviet union was a joke and the fukushima dai-ichi reactors were built after designs more than half a century old, pretending as if either are relevant in any discussion involving CURRENT technology among which many passively safe design proposals can be identified is fucking infantile, as is your bone headed insistence le solar will save the planet.

Maybe in some fantasy world where there are no budgetary constraints, Musk prints billions of sheets of graphene for pennies, endless battery storage is available everywhere and there is no bad weather then your case for solar might make sense but in the real world modern, modular reactor designs are the obviously superior choice for baseline power generation.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

The way you keep sperging and filling the responses with blathering nonsense makes me perceive like you're undergoing your own meltdown with the byproduct of ionizing radiation - retardium

You basically answered your own concern here you imbecile.

"Supervised failsafes with automation."

What did you think they were doing this entire time? Don't accuse me of failing to tailor my argument if you don't even understand how you even undercut your own here yet arrived at the proper conclusion purely through ignorance.

Solar panels are not a viable replacement. The mining, disposal, and construction are very much damaging to the environment, exponentially so if they were to be produced en masse on a global scale. Our energy demands are too high as it is, and they only rise higher each decade - well past what photovoltaic technology can progress in time to meet.

Cope

Seethe

and Dilate

Tranny

I'm not the dunce you're replying to but come on, at least mention this accident by name. There have been many incidents onboard submarines which have resulted in crew being exposed to significant radioactive contamination. Dyatlov, the shift supervisor at chernobyl had even been involved in one, yet he still found work in the field. Nuclear safety in the soviet union was a joke and the fukushima dai-ichi reactors were built after designs more than half a century old, pretending as if either are relevant in any discussion involving CURRENT technology among which many passively safe design proposals can be identified is fucking infantile, as is your bone headed insistence le solar will save the planet.

I've heard of it years ago, but didn't think much of it until subs were mentioned in the thread. It was a Russian submarine and they got help from either the U.S or another country from NATO that's all the details I remember.
I'm glad for the guy if that's what happened, he was one of the lucky ones.
The issue I and someone else mentioned here are that incompetence and delapidation trumps any system, Chernobyl was a case of both playing together and my worry is that it happens again even with modern designs. If it was fully automated and almost nobody had to intervene other than for inspection and cleaning then I would probably not care, it is because nuclear plants still rely too much on human intervention to function correctly that I do care.

You know, I've been reading about nuclear stuff and apparently scientists are researching a way to both make electricity and create anti-ionising medicine out of mushrooms, that would honestly be a very good way to implement atomic energy and a good enough compromise for me.

Recent developments in mushrooms as anti-cancer therapeutics: a review

From time immemorial, mushrooms have been valued by humankind as a culinary wonder and folk medicine in Oriental practice. The last decade has witnessed the overwhelming interest of western research fraternity in pharmaceutical potential of mushrooms. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Scientists hope that mushrooms from Chernobyl will help protect people from radiation

Unusual mushrooms that grow inside the Chernobyl nuclear reactor and “feed” on radiation, converting it into energy, can become the basis for new drugs that

www.soulask.com

 

[Eydallur]

Chernobyl was a case of both playing together and my worry is that it happens again even with modern designs.

You don't know what you're talking about. This is as far as I'm willing to take things while still maintaining some level of decorum with you, your ignorance is not an argument. You should not need me to point out how fucking foreign ALL of the design concepts of the RBMK are to even contemporary western designs nevermind modern developments.
I'm not going to go out of my way to explain any of these particulars to a moron who posts a picture of an oil refinery fire thinking it's a nuclear plant, you've failed at such a fundamental level all there is to do is point and laugh.

You know, I've been reading about nuclear stuff and apparently scientists are researching a way to both make electricity and create anti-ionising medicine out of mushrooms, that would honestly be a very good way to implement atomic energy and a good enough compromise for me.

Nobody gives a shit if something is an acceptable compromise to you. You are an idiot with a grade schoolers understanding of the topic at hand.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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I've heard of it years ago, but didn't think much of it until subs were mentioned in the thread. It was a Russian submarine and they got help from either the U.S or another country from NATO that's all the details I remember.
I'm glad for the guy if that's what happened, he was one of the lucky ones.
The issue I and someone else mentioned here are that incompetence and delapidation trumps any system, Chernobyl was a case of both playing together and my worry is that it happens again even with modern designs. If it was fully automated and almost nobody had to intervene other than for inspection and cleaning then I would probably not care, it is because nuclear plants still rely too much on human intervention to function correctly that I do care.

You know, I've been reading about nuclear stuff and apparently scientists are researching a way to both make electricity and create anti-ionising medicine out of mushrooms, that would honestly be a very good way to implement atomic energy and a good enough compromise for me.

Recent developments in mushrooms as anti-cancer therapeutics: a review

From time immemorial, mushrooms have been valued by humankind as a culinary wonder and folk medicine in Oriental practice. The last decade has witnessed the overwhelming interest of western research fraternity in pharmaceutical potential of mushrooms. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Scientists hope that mushrooms from Chernobyl will help protect people from radiation

Unusual mushrooms that grow inside the Chernobyl nuclear reactor and “feed” on radiation, converting it into energy, can become the basis for new drugs that

www.soulask.com

That looks extremely painful