Are the genderwar threads hurting the the website and encouraging infighting?

[Squishie PP]

Why does male happiness have to rely on sex

My happiness doesn't rely on it, but it does rely on cuddles and tummy rubs c:

 

[draggs]

Sex by itself is an empty distraction no different than any other addiction or hobby; used to pad out life's mundanity while you wait out the clock until you're dead and it no longer matters.
Life isn't about filling holes its about people; companionship, friendships, family ect.

Well that's a rather cold perspective imo

Sex is kind of important to the pair bonding that creates the long-term companionship and friendship of successful pairs

It also literally creates the families lol

 

[The best and greatest]

Well that's a rather bleak perspective imo

Sex is kind of important to the pair bonding that creates the long-term companionship and friendship of successful mating pairs

It also literally creates the families lol

I'm not saying it doesn't play a role, but by itself is as I describe.

 

[draggs]

I'm not saying it doesn't play a role, but by itself is as I describe.

My point is it isn't by itself, despite popular wisdumb of the last several decades that you can separate sex from pair bonding

People who are that way, they get no connection to the people they have sex with, are commonly just as lonely and miserable in their head as the stereotypical incel. Yes that is what you're saying but that is not the way sex works for the overwhelming majority

It plays a fundamental, foundational role that isn't by itself

 

[Blue Gem Kosher Queen]

I strain to think of a single female poster I'd marry. Maybe @Blue Gem Muslim Queen , but that's about it.

I'll keep that in mind.

 

[The best and greatest]

My point is it isn't by itself, despite popular wisdumb of the last several decades that you can separate sex from pair bonding

People who are that way, they get no connection to the people they have sex with, are commonly just as lonely and miserable in their head as the stereotypical incel. Yes that is what you're saying but that is not the way sex works for the overwhelming majority

It plays a fundamental, foundational role

Okay well the post I was responding to said very simply sex by itself, or at least failed to specify further as though it were a given we're all just fuckboys.

 

[RichardMongler]

I'll keep that in mind.

I'm not seeking your hand, but inshallah, you will find a devoted, loving, productive man. Ameen.

 

[Gravemind]

I strain to think of a single female poster I'd marry. Maybe @Blue Gem Muslim Queen , but that's about it.

I don't think you should marry any Farmers whatsoever. The trophy is not worth it.

 

[community member]

It plays a fundamental, foundational role

The issue comes from the inability to accept that sexual bonding isn't something anybody is actually entitled to and the lack of ability to derive enough happiness from other nonsexual forms of human connection. It's ultimately mental weakness and therefore pretty hard to sympathize with

 

[JambledUpWords]

It’s rather telling that the only acceptable way to be a woman on the Farms to so many of these moids is to be a pick me. Moids are fragile

 

[The best and greatest]

The issue comes from the inability to accept that sexual bonding isn't something anybody is actually entitled to and the lack of ability to derive enough happiness from other nonsexual forms of human connection. It's ultimately mental weakness and therefore pretty hard to sympathize with

Claiming loneliness as mental weakness is a pretty callous and unempathetic take even if I do ultimately agree we're not entitled to any of it.

It’s rather telling that the only acceptable way to be a woman on the Farms to so many of these moids is to be a pick me. Moids are fragile

Yes yes, I see you and your need for attention. Be more obvious

 

[crazedaze]

I really like where this thread is going lmao
You are fat and we would not have sex with you.

 

[community member]

Claiming loneliness as mental weakness is a pretty callous and unempathetic take even if I do ultimately agree we're not entitled to any of it.

the conflation of sexual desire with "loneliness" is exactly the problem. people should be able to solve enough of their loneliness problems to make peace with their lives in other ways but they simply refuse to

 

[Hubelublub]

I'll keep that in mind.

Blink twice if you need help.

 

[The best and greatest]

the conflation of sexual desire with "loneliness" is exactly the problem. people should be able to solve enough of their loneliness problems to make peace with their lives in other ways but they simply refuse to

I think that's a pretty uncharitable read as well. Most people want companionship which usually (but not always) implies sexual intimacy yes. Even the most sapphic lesbian doesn't want to be alone more often than not and casual hookups are a temporary balm at most.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Claiming loneliness as mental weakness is a pretty callous and unempathetic take even if I do ultimately agree we're not entitled to any of it.

Pretty typical take among KF women.

 

[community member]

I think that's a pretty uncharitable read as well. Most people want companionship which usually (but not always) implies sexual intimacy yes. Even the most sapphic lesbian doesn't want to be alone more often than not and casual hookups are a temporary balm at most.

Of course they want it. But when faced with the reality that they might never get it, they refuse to adapt and the continued focus on the desire becomes malignant

 

[Gravemind]

Claiming loneliness as mental weakness is a pretty callous and unempathetic take even if I do ultimately agree we're not entitled to any of it.

This is not a personal criticism or argument towards you specifically, but doesn't this just circle back to the age old debate of "women expect men to be open, vulnerable, and communicative, but they also perceive any vulnerability as a failing on their part and emasculating"?

 

[draggs]

The issue comes from the inability to accept that sexual bonding isn't something anybody is actually entitled to and the lack of ability to derive enough happiness from other nonsexual forms of human connection. It's ultimately mental weakness and therefore pretty hard to sympathize with

In the head that is relatively easy to accept. Although incels certainly don't demonstrate that

In the heart, in the belly... humans are hardwired biologically to derive nearly all their happiness from various levels of social companionship, and the most important one is almost certainly the sexual-romantic companionship that leads to familial companionship (they aren't the same thing ofc but they're so closely connected obviously lol)

I find it easy to sympathize with, it affects both men and women, men moreso with the incel thing, women moreso with the failing to find long-term partners to have a family with. Both men and women are declining in happiness and I think it's pretty obvious that is the reason why, a smaller proportion of them are following that natural human life progression (reach sexual maturity -> find a long-term sexual-romantic partner -> make and raise family with that partner)

 

[Gravemind]

Of course they want it. But when faced with the reality that they might never get it, they refuse to adapt and the continued focus on the desire becomes malignant

...Which, again, when a man does decide to adapt and redirect his focus elsewhere, it's another criticism and considered a personal failing on his part, even if he is successful in his endeavors and enjoys the new focus without being sex-obsessed or interested.