Are tiny houses/vanlife a good idea or is it all just cope?

Extreme minimalism is an overcorrection from our current hyperconsumerist "BRO JUST GOT MY 500TH FUNKO POP, COME SEE IT AT THE FUCKING HELLHOLE I VOLUNTARILY PAY $5000 A MONTH TO LIVE IN" culture. It's like seeing a fat person and becoming anorexic.

It's good to be frugal. It's good to only buy what you need. It's good to lower your overall impact on the environment. But you can do those things without living in one of the holes at amigara fault.

That said, if you're genuinely one of those extremely rare super Buddhists who are content living in a 5x5 room with nothing but the infinite energy of the universe to keep you busy, you should. Everyone should have exactly enough to be totally happy and no more.
 
I think they're a great idea. So many people bleed out their nonexistent money to some shady landlord month after month their entire lives...all for the right to crash in a fartbox full of ghetto rats for neighbors forever. I think ANYTHING that gets such people into real houses is a fine thing. It doesn't have to be a zillion s.f. faux chateau just to be a proper house for one.

But no to the van-hobo thing...don't be a cow.
 
Are people really doing these things because they're tired of mcmansions and consoomer society, or to cope with the fact they can't afford it?
I agree that it's to cope with the costly nature of housing, but sometimes it make sense I knew a guy who worked at google that lived in a van out front of the building because rent was so high it was taking almost all of his salary. Then when he got enough time with google. He moved up worked for a place remotely and got a nice house with the money he saved. In muh modern society living in a closet or something is pretty much to be expected doubly so if your a student. Might as well enjoy it.
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It's massive cope pushed on the servant class by the usual suspects in all except one situation:

You're investing your finite resources in more land/animals/tools/supplies instead of a larger house/cabin.

See also: SUPER CHEAP VEGAN MEALS, HOW TO FEED A FAMILY OF 4 ON 25 CENTS A WEEK!!!!
 
Every time I stay at a Marriot over night, I think its my tiny house time-share, and I can't wait to get back to my forever home..

I'm sure there are people who have that nomadic gene in their bodies, and they need the open road or to have the ability to move around freely without tethers attached. Normally, I would refer to those folks as homeless, but if you're living in a van or hauling your house behind you I guess you are one rung up from urban outdoorsman..
 
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My apartment is 409 sqft, and it's good for me. Cheaper to decorate, easier to keep clean. I rarely have visits too.
But I do live in one of the most expensive cities in Europe too, so it's not uncommon for adults here to live small. Could get a bigger one in the more ghetto parts of the city, but chose a smaller one in a nice area. It was planned to be built an asylum centre here. But there was an uproar, so the plans got canceled.
I rather live small, than be close to fucking niggers.

Only reason why it could be nice to live in an actual house, is having no neighbours making sounds. Not that really is a problem, because I'm in the habit of using noice cancelling headphones almost 24/7 anyway.
Was in an much bigger apartment in same city, belonging to an attorney. Because those apartments are like 600 000 usd. Nice apartment, nice potential. Filled up with shit from Ikea, it made my apartment look more expensive in comparison :|
 
I've thought about doing the van life for a bit once I sell some land I own. Mostly because I want to travel until I figure out where I want to move without spending RV money.
 
I'm in the habit of using noice cancelling headphones almost 24/7
That sounds like something out of a dystopian novel from the 30s.

"In the future, people will wear special machines on their heads, all day, every day, just so they can experience quiet. Without it, they go mad from the constant sound. It is otherwise inescapable."

But come to think of it, most of urban western Europe is a dystopian hellscape straight out of a precautionary tale, so I guess that makes sense.
 
Vanlife is just a fancy way of saying "homeless". As for tiny houses, they seem a bit copey to me.

As for minimalism, the nicest form (at least in my experience) is having a house that has far less shit in it than a house its size would usually have. Do you really need a couch if you're living alone? How many things do you need to put on the wall? If you don't have a fuckton of Funko Pops, you don't need a bookcase to hold them all.

The most comfortable I've ever felt in a house was when I was living in a 2500ft2 house that I had all to myself, and I had just enough stuff in it to fill two Honda Fits. I still had two Fits worth of stuff when I moved out.
 
If you're living by yourself and don't need the space, why not? No different then living in a tiny apartment, and at least you actually own the place. Just be sure to save up so that you can buy a larger house if you actually start a family at some point.
 
Its either something someone is forced into (poorfags and californiafags), or its cope and its the most bourjy person out there.

When we're talking about the hipsters who want to live in a van, its just a dumb thing. Ive considered going out to live in a van, because it seems romantic and novel and all that shit, but consider the following:

1) less privacy, you can maybe get curtains on your windows, but chances are, people will prowl around your van

2) Parking. Can you park your van anywhere? Walmart parking lots, I guess- but driving between cities and trying to figure out where to crash overnight is a job unto itself. Imagine having to search for a new spot to park on a constant basis, unless -

3) Cost. The later part of the last problem. There are places that you can crash for weeks at a time, but they often have their own costs. Now, add in the fact that youre going to have to pay on insurance on your vehicle (which is likely going to be higher depending on the model, custom add ons, etc), you have to pay for gas, you have all your previous living fees, you will likely have to pay to supe up your van to be solar powered among other things, and youre going to have to actually maintain the vehicle if youre going cross country, youre going to be paying a relatively high bill.

I'd honestly just rather rent a room in a place outside of a major city, and have the normal comforts of life and go on vacation instead when I can afford it, if I want to see "the country".

Now, if youre a poorfag who thinks they can save money by living in a van, unless its an actual van and not one of these suped up camper vans that hipsters live in on their parents dime, youre going to need money, and certainly more money than either an apartment and no car, or just a basic shitty van. Almost every hipster I see on youtube, with "vanlife" either has rich parents, is some influencer with money from sponsors, or has some higher level project management or programming job position they can do remotely. If you have that money, literally go to Vietnam instead, harass the population there, and live at a much higher standard of life, or if you really like the country just rent a cottage somewhere picturesque domestically.

If we're talking about tiny houses, and not vans, seriously, why the fuck would you want to live in a tiny house if you had another option? If youre some slimey character trying to save money, okay, I get that, you do you. But like, seriously? A cramped lifestyle is a sacrifice, no matter how you put it.
 
I could probably live alone in a tiny house while I built my actual house. I'm not sure I have ever seen anyone live in such a thing more than a year or so.

I sometimes think it would be interesting to buy a RV and drive around for a year or so, but I am not sure it would be cheaper than a hotel in the end. I have watched a few vloggers talk about finances and it is really not that cheap to live in an RV, particularly if you are still making payments on it and the truck you use to pull it (if applicable). Living in a van or small class B thing, yeah, no. Even doing it to save money...would need access to certain things like showers and whatnot to make it work.
 
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It's massive cope pushed on the servant class by the usual suspects in all except one situation:

You're investing your finite resources in more land/animals/tools/supplies instead of a larger house/cabin.

See also: SUPER CHEAP VEGAN MEALS, HOW TO FEED A FAMILY OF 4 ON 25 CENTS A WEEK!!!!
This. I remember seeing globohomo propaganda on TV a decade ago - Daily Show or Colbert or something like that - about how cool it would be to live in a box and have the Democrats own all your property. I thought it was bizarre at the time, but then I started reading Malthus, and the usual suspects' attempts to normalize low standards of living suddenly didn't seem so mysterious.

A tiny house on a large parcel of productive land would be fine, but living in a pod and eating bugs is definitely a cope.
 
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