Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Simulacrum]

lol says the guy still upset I called him a manlet over a year ago

But did you really called him a manlet? Like a tiny man? Did you say he was small maybe? I'm not sure if you did. Did you? Like a year ago? And he was mad? Wow. You're bad ass if you did. Hulk Hogan would be proud of you. Calling someone a manlet is peak manliness. Still can't believe you did that. Keep at it buddy!

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

But did you really called him a manlet? Like a tiny man? Did you say he was small maybe? I'm not sure if you did. Did you? Like a year ago? And he was mad? Wow. You're bad ass if you did. Hulk Hogan would be proud of you. Calling someone a manlet is peak manliness. Still can't believe you did that. Keep at it buddy!

I think we found another manlet

 

[Simulacrum]

I think we found another manlet

You got me. It's all true. I can't hide anything to you. You are way too intelligent. It's incredible.

Hahaha. You are so retarded.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You got me. It's all true. I can't hide anything to you. You are way too intelligent. It's incredible.

Hahaha. You are so retarded.

Only a manlet would tardrage about that word being used as an insult

 

[Certified_Autist]

Yes, some uneducated retard on Kiwi Farms knows more about the vaccine than 99% of doctors and scientists, who got their families vaccinated.

1) This is a classic rhetorical fallacy called the "appeal to authority".
2) It's disingenouous to hide behind claims of scientific consensus, when this consensus is artifical and resulted from censorship of any scientists with a different view. Two examples off the top of my head of vax-skeptical scientists being censored are Robert Malone, one of the early innovators behind mRNA tech, and Michael Yeadon, who wrote a paper some months ago on potential risks from the Pfizer vaccine.

Point is, there are scientists who disagree with the pro-vax side, and have data to back it up, you just don't see them because they have been banned from Twitter and TV ignores their findings.

And this raises an important point- if censorship is needed to maintain the facade that the covid vax is safe/effective/etc, then maybe it really isn't.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

1) This is a classic rhetorical fallacy called the "appeal to authority".

How so? Scientists know more about it than all of us tards on Kiwi Farms combined.

2) It's disingenouous to hide behind claims of scientific consensus, when this consensus is artifical and resulted from censorship of any scientists with a different view. Two examples off the top of my head are Robert Malone, one of the early innovators behind mRNA tech, and Michael Yeadon, who wrote a paper some months ago on potential risks from the Pfizer vaccine.

Right, but when the vast majority, like 99%, are so confident they even got their families vaccinated, it's pretty safe to say they think it's safe. But you know more than them, right?

Point is, there are scientists who disagree with the pro-vax side, and have data to back it up, you just don't see them because they have been banned from Twitter and TV ignores their findings.

Very, very few. There's physicists who think the earth is flat. There's crackpots and grifters on every subject.

And this raises an important point- if censorship is needed to maintain the facade that the covid vax is safe/effective/etc, then maybe it really isn't.

Or maybe it's because of anti-vax retards like you falling for and spreading Russian anti-vax propaganda and boomer FB memes

 

[Certified_Autist]

How so? Scientists know more about it than all of us tards on Kiwi Farms combined.

You seem to think of "scientists" as some sort of priestly class that has knowledge incomprehensible to anyone but them. When in reality results of scientific testing are typically printed in English, thus they can be read by anyone literate. Scientific journals exist for this very reason.

Right, but when the vast majority, like 99%, are so confident they even got their families vaccinated, it's pretty safe to say they think it's safe.

What are you basing the 99% claim on? Talking heads you saw on TV? And how do you know that everyone in their family is vaccinated?

Let's assume though that your 99% claim is true, and that only 1% of scientists disagree. If those 1% of scientists disagree with the other 99%, they probably have good evidence or reasoning for doing so.

Very, very few. There's physicists who think the earth is flat. There's crackpots and grifters on every subject.

Many of these vax objectors are not "crackpots" by any conventional standard. When the inventor of the technology behind the mRNA vaccine you are defending thinks that said vaccine has problems, maybe you should at least hear him out.

And on the subject of grifters, I could just as easily point out scientists getting paid by government and pharma to go on TV and shill for vaccines. But those don't count because they're on your side, right?

Or maybe it's because of anti-vax retards like you falling for and spreading Russian anti-vax propaganda and boomer FB memes

I didn't know the medical condition of myocarditis was russian propaganda.
I didn't know Pfizer refusing to release safety data was a boomer Facebook meme.

And smearing me as "anti-vax" is inaccurate. Personally I am ok with most vaccines and have been vaccianted for tetanus, measles, etc. But have issues with the Covid vax because of reasons I already outlined. I suspect the majority of people opposing the covid vax would fit this description as opposed to being hardline "anti-vaxxers".

The problem, HHH, is not that you disagree with people opposing the covid vax, the problem is that you don't seem to understand the reasoning why they have those positions to begin with.

 

[Simulacrum]

Only a manlet would tardrage about that word being used as an insult

I just told you that you were right. I'm tiny dude. I'm super small and I'm super mad that you found out about my terrible secret. You are so good. How do you do that? And the way you put stickers on all posts. I'm raging right now. You are the king of the kiwi farms. All hail thr tardking!

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

I just told you that you were right. I'm tiny dude. I'm super small and I'm super mad that you found out about my terrible secret. You are so good. How do you do that? And the way you put stickers on all posts. I'm raging right now. You are the king of the kiwi farms. All hail thr tardking!

HHH genuinely has the most entertaining posts ITT.

The vax mandate is tied up (and likely going to die) in court, it's stupid easy to get a religious exemption, and Secret Watcher is giving everyone a free hat. There is literally zero reason to be sneeding this hard my dude.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You seem to think of "scientists" as some sort of priestly class that has knowledge incomprehensible to anyone but them. When in reality results of scientific testing are typically printed in English, thus they can be read by anyone literate. Scientific journals exist for this very reason.

Except uneducated tards like you don't even know how to read said studies

What are you basing the 99% claim on? Talking heads you saw on TV? And how do you know that everyone in their family is vaccinated?

Based on surveys. The number of anti-vax scientists and docs is pretty damn small.

Let's assume though that your 99% claim is true, and that only 1% of scientists disagree. If those 1% of scientists disagree with the other 99%, they probably have good evidence or reasoning for doing so.

Or they're grifters appealing to anti-vax tards like you.

Many of these vax objectors are not "crackpots" by any conventional standard. When the inventor of the technology behind the mRNA vaccine you are defending thinks that said vaccine has problems, maybe you should at least hear him out.

And on the subject of grifters, I could just as easily point out scientists getting paid by government and pharma to go on TV and shill for vaccines. But those don't count because they're on your side, right?

Lol or they shill for vaccines because they think they're safe, even though uneducated simpelton tards like you think you know more about the vaccine than they do

I didn't know the medical condition of myocarditis was russian propaganda.
I didn't know Pfizer refusing to release safety data was a boomer Facebook meme.

It's cute how you claim to have "done your research" and claim to know more than doctors and scientists yet you don't even know that myocarditis is like 100x more common from covid itself than the vaccine. So yeah, it is Russian propaganda that you fell for because you're an impressionable autist.

And smearing me as "anti-vax" is inaccurate. Personally I am ok with most vaccines and have been vaccianted for tetanus, measles, etc. But have issues with the Covid vax because of reasons I already outlined. I suspect the majority of people opposing the covid vax would fit this description as opposed to being hardline "anti-vaxxers".

The problem, HHH, is not that you disagree with people opposing the covid vax, the problem is that you don't seem to understand the reasoning why they have those positions to begin with.

Again, you tards think you know more about this than scientists and doctors because you saw some boomer facebook memes and saw some Bitchute videos.

 

[Certified_Autist]

Except uneducated tards like you don't even know how to read said studies

Ad hominem response. All insult, no argument of substance.

Or they're grifters appealing to anti-vax tards like you.

I haven't given them any money, and many of these have lost money and prestige in coming forward about this, (particuraly Robert Malone who was one of the inventors of the mRNA tech) so where's the "grift"?

If you're really worried about grifters, look at whose making the money. Fauci for example is the highest paid employee in the federal government. The pandemic has elevated his standing and prestige, you think he wants that to go away? He's not the only one, many scientists get paid to go on the news and appear on talk shows to promote Covid vaccines.

Vaccine manufactuers are getting paid quite a lot for their products by governments, and they have every incentive to pay for good coverage to keep the gravy train rolling. It wouldn't be the first time they encouraged doctors and scientists to ignore adverse results, look at the opioid crisis and its the same exact behavior. They have a track record of doing this and have been convicted in court over this before. A few years ago Pfizer paid the largest criminal fine in history (2.3 billion) for pulling shit like this

even though uneducated simpelton tards like you think you know more about the vaccine than they do

More ad hominem insults with no argument of substance

It's cute how you claim to have "done your research" and claim to know more than doctors and scientists yet you don't even know that myocarditis is like 100x more common from covid itself than the vaccine.

This is factually wrong. For males under the age of 40, myocarditis is a greater risk than Covid.

So yeah, it is Russian propaganda that you fell for because you're an impressionable autist.

"Wahhh everything I don't like is russian propaganda"

I could just as easily make the argument that you are pro-covid-vax because you fell for big pharma propaganda due to being an impressionable autist. Not neccesarily true, but it would be a more logically sound argument.

Like, where the hell are you getting Russians from? They don't come into this scenario at all. If you wanted to scapegoat a foreign country over Covid, China would at least be a logical choice.

Again, you tards think you know more about this than scientists and doctors because you saw some boomer facebook memes and saw some Bitchute videos.

And there you go again, you assume anyone who disagrees is dumb and has no basis to their argument, and you refuse to even consider any of the points they raise. I at least understand why people are pro-Covid-vax, even though I disagree.

 

[Simulacrum]

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HHH genuinely has the most entertaining posts ITT.

He kinda is. I enjoy that the manchild makes a fool of himself. It's kinda cute that he thinks totaly owning people on the Internet by spouting the same 5 retarded insults again and again and again. I can't get mad at the mentaly challenged. You just have to skip his autistic walls of text though.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

He kinda is. I enjoy that the manchild makes a fool of himself. It's kinda cute that he thinks totaly owning people on the Internet by spouting the same 5 retarded insults again and again and again. I can't get mad at the mentaly challenged. You just have to skip his autistic walls of text though.

Lol ironic coming from you of all people. Why are you 2020 join dates almost always such autists?

Ad hominem response. All insult, no argument of substance.

I haven't given them any money, and many of these have lost money and prestige in coming forward about this, (particuraly Robert Malone who was one of the inventors of the mRNA tech) so where's the "grift"?

If you're really worried about grifters, look at whose making the money. Fauci for example is the highest paid employee in the federal government. The pandemic has elevated his standing and prestige, you think he wants that to go away? He's not the only one, many scientists get paid to go on the news and appear on talk shows to promote Covid vaccines.

Vaccine manufactuers are getting paid quite a lot for their products by governments, and they have every incentive to pay for good coverage to keep the gravy train rolling. It wouldn't be the first time they encouraged doctors and scientists to ignore adverse results, look at the opioid crisis and its the same exact behavior. They have a track record of doing this and have been convicted in court over this before. A few years ago Pfizer paid the largest criminal fine in history (2.3 billion) for pulling shit like this

They still grift by getting viewers. No wonder you were stupid enough to fall for Russian propaganda.

More ad hominem insults with no argument of substance

This is factually wrong. For males under the age of 40, myocarditis is a greater risk than Covid.

Untrue at all. Covid has a much higher likelihood of myocarditis than from the vaccine. Again, stop taking boomer FB memes as fact just because you have autism. The vaccine uses the same spike protein as covid itself, so how the hell could it be worse in the vaccine?

"Wahhh everything I don't like is russian propaganda"

I could just as easily make the argument that you are pro-covid-vax because you fell for big pharma propaganda due to being an impressionable autist. Not neccesarily true, but it would be a more logically sound argument.

Like, where the hell are you getting Russians from? They don't come into this scenario at all. If you wanted to scapegoat a foreign country over Covid, China would at least be a logical choice.

Russia literally got busted spreading anti-vax propaganda, and congrats, your impressionable, diseased brain fell for it.

And there you go again, you assume anyone who disagrees is dumb and has no basis to their argument, and you refuse to even consider any of the points they raise. I at least understand why people are pro-Covid-vax, even though I disagree.

I understand why people are anti-vax, but their arguments still have no merit. They are usually retards who believe too many conspiracy theories and think they know more than doctors and scientists despite being uneducated simpletons.

 

[Dude Snakes]

Yeah the medical experts all over the entire world are fucking brain dead dummies who don't know what they are doing but somehow you do. Ever since Covid was made official to to world in march 2020 everyone became an expert overnight. When I get sick and go to the doctor for something I tell him he is a fucking dumbass and tell him what to prescribe for me also. I know more then them because I read it somewhere on the internet. Get your head checked you are not as clever as you think you are.

They have been threatened/bribed to push these quacksines, those that speak out against them and slammed by the MSM and some have had their medical licenes revoked. Fauci and others won't even entertain the idea of holding a public debate with alternative voices like Robert Malone/RFK Jr. because he would be exposed as a lying criminal. You are utterly clueless as how deep and bad the corruption of Big Pharma/the FDA is, they aren't into healing people they are about providing treatments and maximizing profits, health impact be damned.

 

[Certified_Autist]

They still grift by getting viewers.

And that same argument applies to pro-vax doctors, so by your logic those are also grifters.

Untrue at all. Covid has a much higher likelihood of myocarditis than from the vaccine. Again, stop taking boomer FB memes as fact just because you have autism.

There is a reason myocarditis cases connected to Covid were nonexistent until the vaccine rollout. I guess reality has a "boomer meme" bias lmao.

The vaccine uses the same spike protein as covid itself, so how the hell could it be worse in the vaccine?

Because the virus attacks a body that (presumably) has an immune system to protect it from the virus spike proteins. But the vaccine modifies the immune system directly, which has the effect of the body's own immune system sending spike proteins to places that are supposed to be protected by the same immune system. And the immune system isn't going to attack itself. Hence why organ issues, heart problems, lung problems, fertility problems, blood clots, etc, only began to pop up after vaccine rollout.

Russia literally got busted spreading anti-vax propaganda, and congrats, your impressionable, diseased brain fell for it.

And big pharma got busted spreading pro-vax propaganda, and downplaying/ignoring negative effects. In my previous comment I pointed out this is not new and they had a track record of doing this with other drugs like opioids. Yet for some reason you don't care about that at all. Is it because those companies are not Russian?

I understand why people are anti-vax,

I don't think you do. You seem to think we're all boomers who get our info from facebook memes and "Russians". Even after I explained several times where we are getting info from and yet you ignore it because it contradicts the idea you have built up in your head.

They are usually retards who believe too many conspiracy theories and think they know more than doctors and scientists despite being uneducated simpletons.

And there you go again with your same couple insults you repeat over and over. At least be creative with your insults. Or at least call me a dumb nigger or something if you actually want to be insulting.

 

[Disheveled Human]

They have been threatened/bribed to push these quacksines, those that speak out against them and slammed by the MSM and some have had their medical licenes revoked. Fauci and others won't even entertain the idea of holding a public debate with alternative voices like Robert Malone/RFK Jr. because he would be exposed as a lying criminal. You are utterly clueless as how deep and bad the corruption of Big Pharma/the FDA is, they aren't into healing people they are about providing treatments and maximizing profits, health impact be damned.

I mean my theory is simple
Global Pandemic ---------> Governments Enact Pandemic Protocols

Your theory requires so many assumptions that cannot be proven easily with a goal that doesn't make much sense. The more you add to the theory the less likely its even remotely close to what the actual truth is.

 

[Simulacrum]

Lol ironic coming from you of all people. Why are you 2020 join dates almost always such autists?

14,714 posts in 8 years and I am the autist? Is being a member of this forum for that long your biggest accomplishment? That's pretty sad brother.

 

[Xarpho]

I got vaccinated back last February just as a compromise. I get vaccinated, but I don't wear a mask and I won't get harassed about it ever again. And with the exception of a Japanese grocery store in a blue county, I don't think I have.

Meanwhile, despite COVID becoming less and less powerful with every mutation (not that it was a super-killer to begin with), I'm being pushed by my family suddenly to get a booster. I think it's probably having to do with my brother who came home for Christmas and is a big subscriber to the whole "SCIENCE!" cult, but I also wonder if it's because I'm basically enslaved to the pharmaceutical companies now.

I'm deeply suspicious of the vaccine otherwise, the effort to stop wrongthink and an unprecedented push to get the jab brings up a lot of the questions, nor do I trust the reports that the vaccine is safe--there's too much money and politics going around, which is perfect breeding ground for scientific fraud.

 

[RussianBlonde]

1) This is a classic rhetorical fallacy called the "appeal to authority".
2) It's disingenouous to hide behind claims of scientific consensus, when this consensus is artifical and resulted from censorship of any scientists with a different view. Two examples off the top of my head of vax-skeptical scientists being censored are Robert Malone, one of the early innovators behind mRNA tech, and Michael Yeadon, who wrote a paper some months ago on potential risks from the Pfizer vaccine.

Point is, there are scientists who disagree with the pro-vax side, and have data to back it up, you just don't see them because they have been banned from Twitter and TV ignores their findings.

And this raises an important point- if censorship is needed to maintain the facade that the covid vax is safe/effective/etc, then maybe it really isn't.

Not to mention every doctor who expressed concerns about the vaccine getting fired and stripped of their license. When have you ever seen The Great Barrington declaration mentioned in tbe media? Never, cos it would be very difficult to make them a target of slander so it's better to make sure as few people know about it as possible.

 

[AnOminous]

My country has such over the top restrictions that vaccines are pretty much mandatory. Can't even take the bus or train without being vaccinated or tested daily (no self-tests allowed).

Good. Suck it. Be super angry about getting a harmless little jab that does nothing but help you. I can't imagine being so mad about being helped. Even though you are stupid, you should be grateful.

I just told you that you were right. I'm tiny dude. I'm super small and I'm super mad that you found out about my terrible secret. You are so good. How do you do that? And the way you put stickers on all posts. I'm raging right now. You are the king of the kiwi farms. All hail thr tardking!

I once disbelieved that HHH had the magical power to cause very small males to go berserk just by calling them manlets, but apparently this is true. Wow you sound so angry! If we could milk manlet anger, we could definitely power the world.