Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Lmfao politifact. Yeah ok i am not surprised.

Imagine needing professional debooonker to form your opinion because you are too shit to look up numbers yourself. The same shit rag also debooonked the claim that the virus came from the wuhan lab. Im done.


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I do not watch the news about Covid. I have never watched a briefing by Fauci. The only one I ever watched was the one where Trump then recommended injecting UV light to kill the Virus. I watched it because I was told the content was better than SNL and they weren't bloody wrong. I've read some quotes in investigative journalism but never listened to "news" on Covid so to speak. I will read silly news about someone who died who shouldn't but as far as the science of Covid, news sources of all kinds are unworthy unless investigative by nature and robust with study references and CDC stats.

Your statistics you use are a problem.

The Mortality rate of Covid is a useless statistic because it divides the number of the population by the deaths, so included in the calculation are ALL people of a population, not just those infected. The case fatality rate is what should be used: People who died; who were infected. So Mortality rate only GROWS, it never decreases as a pandemic goes on.

As an example, Ebola has a mortality rate FAR LOWER than Covid.

For a real look at Covid, use Case Fatality Rates (CFR). Number of people infected/probable infection and divide by the of deaths.

Here is an example of how stats are made to look wrong and I will use your stats quoted (which are wrong anyways, but not your fault, you used Santos):

Someone says chances of NOT dying from Covid are 99.9% if vaccinated.
Then they say if I am NOT vaccinated then my chances of NOT dying go down to "only" 99.8%.

What does that mean?

It means (if you use these stats) that 1 in a 1000 will die of Covid if we vaccinate.
But if Not vaccinated it will be 2 in a thousand.

That means your chances of NOT dying from Covid if vaccinated improve 200%.

For a population of 300,000,000 that means in a vaccinated population 200,000 will die.
In an unvaccinated population it means 600,000 will die.

But I assure you if the entire population of 300,000,000 are infected with Covid WITHOUT a vaccine you can kiss this
statistic as utterly useless - which it is. Because it is using the Mortality rate and NOT the Case Fatality rate which is what we want.

Perhaps you buddy Santos should put up a card saying "Ebola has a Mortality rate a thousand times less than Covid" which would be true.

There have been 50,000,000 infections in the USA. 700,000 have died. That means 1.4% have died. Lets for arguments sake double the infections to 100,000,000, it still gives a IFR of .7%.

This is 700% times the figure you are using for the population. And that is being pleasant given that tens if not hundreds of thousands have received life saving medical treatment that prevented their deaths which would have increased the IFR dramatically.

Using your statistic or mortality rate for your argument is always going to fail because the figure will only grow as there are more deaths each day even in your age group and thus the Mortality rate increases. And if we exclude vaccinations that have saved people your statistic gets even more out of kilter.

And remember, I'll say it again: Perhaps you buddy Santos should put up a card saying "Ebola has a Mortality rate a thousand times less than Covid" which would be true.
 
That does not matter, as long as you can still get and spread the virus as a vaccinated person, you have no right to tell anyone to get the jab.
Again, did your crippling autism cause your diseased brain to not register what I said for the millionth time? It's not 100% effective, but it's still effective. Again, I realize you have a case of debilitating autism and thus can't comprehend things that are not black and white, so something being only 80% or whatever effective just is beyond your comprehension.

Ivermectin has clinical studies proving its safety, decades of them. Your wonderjabs earliest is done in 2022.
Lol no it doesn't. The data was literally made up. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809

Again, I realize you are inept at science and that article will be tough for you to follow, but give it a try.

Yes he did, he went with whatever narrative the news was pushing last year even tho in his private emails he said masks dont work. How come retards like you never blame him? He was literally second in line in Trumps COVID task force. You must have forgot that he was the person who suggested not to stop flights coming in from China and later Europe, luckily they ignored his rat face.
Not true at all. He said masks didn't work after his public stance changed. Check the dates on the emails.

Vaccines do not stop transmission. Again, Lord Fauci literally said so. If you call him a liar you inadvertently prove my point right that he is wrong or lying about most shit he says.

Again, I realize you have autism and thus context is really difficult for you. Let me explain this to you in a way you can even understand.

In the very beginning of the video, he mentions he is talking about "break through infections". Do you know what a break through infection is? I am guessing not, since you are inept at science and a complete retard. A "breakthrough infection" is when the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission or infection. Now, in a break through infection, the virus can still spread. However, did you know why they call them "breakthrough infections"? Because they're pretty rare and don't happen in the vast majority of cases. So in the cases where it's not a break through infection, it does indeed prevent spread and infection.

And again, I realize your math and stats ability is about first-grade level, but when hundreds of millions of doses have been administered in the US, there are going to be cases where it doesn't hold. Ask your tardwrangler to explain stats to you

So thank you for proving my exact point. I just wish your debilitating autism didn't cripple your brain so much you couldn't even watch and understand the video you posted

A relative of mine is jabbed and still got the coof while on vacation. It was bad enough she was bedridden for a while. So much for prevention.
My cousin wore a seat belt and still died in a car accident. I guess seatbelts are useless
 
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Lol no it doesn't. The data was literally made up. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809
Ivermectin has been FDA approved since 1969 and was prescribed hundreds of millions of times. It is a safe drug with countless studies proving its safety.
Not true at all. He said masks didn't work after his public stance changed. Check the dates on the emails.


In the very beginning of the video, he mentions he is talking about "break through infections". Do you know what a break through infection is? I am guessing not, since you are inept at science and a complete retard. A "breakthrough infection" is when the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission or infection. Now, in a break through infection, the virus can still spread. However, did you know why they call them "breakthrough infections"? Because they're pretty rare and don't happen in the vast majority of cases. So in the cases where it's not a break through infection, it does indeed prevent spread and infection.

You have break through retardation. And yes, Fauci is the highest paid retard in the federal government who has been wrong since Day 1.

Fuck him and his dickrider.
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My cousin wore a seat belt and still died in a car accident. I guess seatbelts are useless
For you they would be, brain damage in a car accident is something you don't have to worry about.
 
Ivermectin has been FDA approved since 1969 and was prescribed hundreds of millions of times. It is a safe drug with countless studies proving its safety.
That's not the point, though. It doesn't work against covid, which is the whole damn point. Stop changing the goal posts. No one is saying it's unsafe, they're saying it doesn't work for covid and the studies showing it worked had made up data (shown in the link I posted).

You have break through retardation. And yes, Fauci is the highest paid retard in the federal government who has been wrong since Day 1.

Fuck him and his dickrider.
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Lol you can't refute what I said so you burst out in a tardrage. Typical. Sorry you have crippling autism, but it's your cross to bear. Try to understand what I posted and maybe you'll see why you posted incorrect and retarded information.

For you they would be, brain damage in a car accident is something you don't have to worry about.
You'd know first hand about brain damage based on your posts in this thread, son. Is that what caused your crippling autism and low-IQ?
 
That's not the point, though. It doesn't work against covid, which is the whole damn point. Stop changing the goal posts. No one is saying it's unsafe, they're saying it doesn't work for covid and the studies showing it worked had made up data (shown in the link I posted).
Neither does the vaccine and yet here you are shilling for it. "Breakthrough cases" my ass. Harvard had a 100% vaccination rate yet had to shut down due to "breakthrough" cases. If the vaccine does not prevent you from getting or spreading the virus, its not "safe and effective"

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Lol you can't refute what I said so you burst out in a tardrage. Typical. Sorry you have crippling autism, but it's your cross to bear. Try to understand what I posted and maybe you'll see why you posted incorrect and retarded information.

There is nothing to refute, fauci fags are the cringiest people on planet earth, just get a fauci tattoo and fuck off.
 
Neither does the vaccine and yet here you are shilling for it. "Breakthrough cases" my ass. Harvard had a 100% vaccination rate yet had to shut down due to "breakthrough" cases. If the vaccine does not prevent you from getting or spreading the virus, its not "safe and effective"

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It sure does. Again, I know you have crippling autism and it's clouded your brain so much that you can't comprehend things that aren't black and white. Re-read my explanation and you'll see why you were mistaken.

It's also really cute how you pulled a brainlet move and shared a screenshot so that I couldn't refute it. However, I used google and found the article. It turns out that there was a grand total of 74 positive covid tests, out of 41,864 tests. Of those, 60 were from business student tests. 28 total students tested positive (some had multiple positive tests for confirmation and whatnot). I'd say the vaccine did a pretty good job. Again, I know your autism makes you unable to comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%. It's caused your brain to develop incorrect, it's not your fault.


There is nothing to refute, fauci fags are the cringiest people on planet earth, just get a fauci tattoo and fuck off.
Does your autism also make you unable to understand how calendar dates work? Because apparently it does.

It's cute how you're so retarded yet you think you know more about covid than doctors and scientists.
 
Ivermectin has been FDA approved since 1969 and was prescribed hundreds of millions of times. It is a safe drug with countless studies proving its safety.


You have break through retardation. And yes, Fauci is the highest paid retard in the federal government who has been wrong since Day 1.

Fuck him and his dickrider.
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For you they would be, brain damage in a car accident is something you don't have to worry about.
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" I just am nailed to the wall with your knowledge. I mean fucking nailed. Tell me more brother."
 
It sure does. Again, I know you have crippling autism and it's clouded your brain so much that you can't comprehend things that aren't black and white. Re-read my explanation and you'll see why you were mistaken.

It's also really cute how you pulled a brainlet move and shared a screenshot so that I couldn't refute it. However, I used google and found the article. It turns out that there was a grand total of 74 positive covid tests, out of 41,864 tests. Of those, 60 were from business student tests. 28 total students tested positive (some had multiple positive tests for confirmation and whatnot). I'd say the vaccine did a pretty good job. Again, I know your autism makes you unable to comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%. It's caused your brain to develop incorrect, it's not your fault.

Talk about autistic retardation when i literally linked the article under the picture.

It's cute how you're so retarded yet you think you know more about covid than doctors and scientists.
I rather take diet advice from amberlyn reid than listen to anything fauci says.
 
Talk about autistic retardation when i literally linked the article under the picture.
I missed that, but you didn't address my points. It's cute when you link articles and videos that actually help my case and hurt your case. If you understood basic terminology or actually read the article instead of just blindly sharing shit your boomer uncle posts on Facebook you'd look like less of a fool.

I rather take diet advice from amberlyn reid than listen to anything fauci says.
Arrogance and narcissism at its finest. Your uneducated retard ass thinks he knows more about a virus than 99% of world-wide doctors and scientists :story:
 
I missed that, but you didn't address my points. It's cute when you link articles and videos that actually help my case and hurt your case. If you understood basic terminology or actually read the article instead of just blindly sharing shit your boomer uncle posts on Facebook you'd look like less of a fool.
Because your point is invalid. If it does not protect you from getting or spreading the virus, its not safe and effective. I must have missed all the countless polio breakthrough cases and smallpox breakthrough cases in the 35 years im alive.

Arrogance and narcissism at its finest. Your uneducated retard ass thinks he knows more about a virus than 99% of world-wide doctors and scientists :story:

Nothing they advised worked and we are 19 months in. Imagine dickriding "world-wide doctors and scientists", the same doctors and scientists from the W.H.O who wouldn't even acknowledge Taiwans existence in an interview because they are all bought and paid by China.
 
Because your point is invalid. If it does not protect you from getting or spreading the virus, its not safe and effective. I must have missed all the countless polio breakthrough cases and smallpox breakthrough cases in the 35 years im alive.
It does, though. Just because you have crippling autism and your diseased brain can't see a difference between 0% effective and 90% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective. I have explained to you how breakthrough cases work. Instead, you're just upset your anti-vax talking point you got from your boomer uncle on Facebook is wrong.

Parachutes aren't 100% effective, either. Nor are seatbelts. Nothing in life is. I know this will completely overwhelm your diseased brain, but try to understand that just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective.

Nothing they advised worked and we are 19 months in. Imagine dickriding "world-wide doctors and scientists", the same doctors and scientists from the W.H.O who wouldn't even acknowledge Taiwans existence in an interview because they are all bought and paid by China.
Oh, right, I forgot you think the lockdowns literally prevented 0 covid deaths and cases. Someone who doesn't even understand that people have to be near each other to spread diseases thinks that he knows more about medicine than doctors and scientists :story:
 
It does, though. Just because you have crippling autism and your diseased brain can't see a difference between 0% effective and 90% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective. I have explained to you how breakthrough cases work. Instead, you're just upset your anti-vax talking point you got from your boomer uncle on Facebook is wrong.

Parachutes aren't 100% effective, either. Nor are seatbelts. Nothing in life is. I know this will completely overwhelm your diseased brain, but try to understand that just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective.
If that many people out of a parachute class would end up dead on the ground because their parachute failed, those sports would be banned nationwide.

Hint: Its no longer a breakthrough case when a shit ton of vaccinated people get it. Its a sign that the jab is not protecting you from getting the coof.


Oh, right, I forgot you think the lockdowns literally prevented 0 covid deaths and cases. Someone who doesn't even understand that people have to be near each other to spread diseases thinks that he knows more about medicine than doctors and scientists :story:
The lockdowns helped jack shit, look at sweden in comparison. You are 19 months in and some of those retards are calling for new lockdowns. Also, people back then, including those great W.H.O Doctors and scientists told people that the virus can't spread from human to human. Forgot that too right?

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And im done arguing with a branch covidian. I sometimes wonder if you are actually that retarded or just some chinese dude paid to astroturf.

I am too busy chilling with all my childhood friends who suffered from breakthrough polio
 
I would say that the firmware upgrade for the nano mind control chips packs a wallop. It is identical to the second dose, but it adds pronounced lymphadenopathy (Swollen and painful lymph nodes) in the axilla (armpit) and base of the neck as well as mild tachycardia, both indicating that my body is strongly convinced that it is under some kind of severe attack. However, my experience with adverse effects from the second and third have been unusually strong. Only about 10% of people experience a fever and nausea.

However! Given I needed to monitor myself for the potential for myocarditis, I was actually able to come up with a cheap, simple protocol for Kiwi's who have to get vaccinated or get a booster, for whatever reason, to know if they are experiencing any serious cardiac compromise, before it becomes mortally serious or before they have any obvious symptoms. The benefit of this is that you can seek treatment before you reach the point of most people who have experienced symptomatic presentation, where the chances of full recovery become more remote.

I'll just need a little time to write it up for everyone here. The post-vaccine sequelae is still making it difficult to maintain a sustained effort.
 
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If at any point during monitoring you experience consistent chest pain, and/or an inability to catch your breath, go to the hospital ASAP, those are both signs of severe cardiac compromise and the need for immediate medical attention.

A cheap, easy, and simple way to monitor yourself for potential myocarditis. A finger digital pulse-oximeter! You can get them for as little as $10, and they are foolproof. They all typically display two things, your pulse rate, and your oxygen saturation.

Average typical pulse rate for most people is right around 70-80. Yours could be much lower, it depends on how much of an athlete you are. If you are super-athletic, you could even fall into what is generally considered the bradycardic range, which is a pulse rate less than 60. That is nothing to be concerned about. A pulse rate of less than 60 being bradycardia is only for normies. If you are a normie and your pulse rate is less than 60, consider talking to your primary care provider about a referral to a cardiologist, since that is not normal. Some people have a typical pulse rate around 90-100. Again, nothing to be concerned about. If you pulse rate exceeds 100 it is considered tachycardia. If your pulse rate exceeds 100, at rest, and you aren't consuming caffeine, or other stimulants or stimulant medication, again, consider talking to your primary care provider about a cardiology referral as tachycardia at rest is also not normal. If you have a known medical condition that causes your heart rate to be below 60 or above 100, knowing what your expected average typical rate is usually is all that is important.

So, before you get the vaccine, determine what your average pulse rate is according to the pulse-oximeter. Consider talking it in the morning, afternoon, evening, and before you go to bed. This will give you an idea of the typical range for your pulse rate, and yes, it is normal for it to vary throughout the day. Try to take it when you are able to sit and rest for a few minutes, and you haven't consumed any stimulants recently. If you take stimulant medication, don't worry about it, since you will probably be taking it in the day after the vaccination, it will be accounted for in your baseline pulse rate.

The second number on the pulse-oximeter is the oxygen saturation % of your blood. A average typical range for a healthy person is 100 to 93. If your pulseoximeter consistently shows your oxygen saturation below 92, consider that your pulse-oximeter is not working properly. If you measure it with another one, and it says the same thing, make an appointment with your primary care physician for an evaluation because that isn't normal. Note when you take your pulse what the oxygen saturation is as well. You will notice this can also change throughout the day by a few points, which is totally normal. If you have a known medical condition that causes you to have a oxygen saturation rate below 92, knowing what your expected average typical oxygen saturation rate is usually is all that is important.

Once you know your baseline, you can get your vaccine and you can monitor yourself for potential issues using the pulse-oximeter. Generally you would want to use your pulse-oximeter to check your pulse and oxygen saturation every 4-6 hours, depending on how you are feeling. Getting a vaccine is not terribly different for your body than being mildly ill. As a result, just as with illness, you may see your pulse increase. Seeing a pulse increase of upwards of 20, at most, would be considered something to be expected. This tolerance is lower for people that have higher average pulse rates. If your average pulse rate is 70, then a pulse rate of 90 would be ok. If your average pulse rate is 95, anything above 108-110 is pushing it. If your pulse rate is usually 80, and it spikes to 115, that would be something to be concerned about. If you see your pulse rate spike, and it remains that way, consider taking readings every hour from that point forward to track your pulse rate and oxygen saturation. It could just be that your body is really reacting to the vaccine, or it could be the very first sign of a potential problem.

Even though a vaccine is like a minor illness, it shouldn't have much of any effect on your oxygen saturation. Generally your oxygen saturation should track within a point or two of what you saw when you established your baseline. If you see more than a consistent 5 point discrepancy, along with a significant increase in heart rate, start monitoring your heart rate and oxygen saturation rate every hour. If you become tachycardic and your oxygen saturation dips to 92, consider going to the hospital, or you can continue to very closely monitor yourself taking measurements at least every hour if not more frequently. If you are tachycardic and your oxygen saturation is consistently below 92, go to the hospital immediately, as those two signs are a strong indicator that your hearts ability to pump oxygenated blood throughout your body has become compromised. If your oxygen saturation rate is typically lower than the average range, your lower bound would be 90, as anyone who has a oxygen saturation below 90 who does not have established severe pulmonary (lung) issues and is not already on oxygen, should never see a reading below 90.

So, why have I mentioned all of this? The reason is that in some of the cases of fulminant (severe) myocarditis related to COVID vaccination the people didn't seek help until they were severely out of breath or had severe chest pain. At that point, they were in very bad shape, they were extremely tachycardic with oxygen saturation in the 80's with what is known as ventricular dysfunction and a left ejection fraction of 15% or less. That means their heart was compromised to the point where they were just barely alive. Some of these people recovered, but some of them now have permanently reduced cardiac function. That isn't something anyone should have to live with just for getting a vaccine.

Okay, the discussion from here on out is assuming the absolute worst, you are actually one of the people that has been impacted by myocarditis. This is what you will likely experience and what you need to ask the medical staff taking care of you to do. Why am I including this section? Because people die in hospitals everyday because they fall through the cracks, the healthcare providers don't take their symptoms seriously, etc... You and anyone with you, need to be your best patient advocates, as sometimes that can be the difference between life and death or serious permanent injury.

You arrive at the hospital, your heart rate is tachycardic and your oxygen situation is just barely 92, you are experiencing mild chest pain. Tell them you have been vaccinated recently, that you have chest pain and shortness of breath, and that your oxygen saturation is at 92 and dropping. Once they hear this, they should move their asses like no tomorrow. The first thing they need to do is hook you up to a monitor and start an IV, directly after that they need to do an EKG, preferably what is known as a 12-lead EKG. A 12-lead EKG is the most accurate kind that can pick up even small deviations from the typical. The EKG, if it is myocarditis, will probably show diffuse ST-segment changes, usually elevation, but decreases have been seen, as well as non-specific T-wave changes. At this point they will probably want to draw blood for laboratory evaluation, they want to run Troponin-T, and CK-MB (which is a certain for of an enzyme known as creatinine kinase), both of which are likely to be highly elevated. They may also do an echocardiogram, which will provide functional imaging of the heart and it will demonstrate any overt dysfunction. The best treatment known at this time are high dose corticosteroids, such as Prednisone. It should stop the immune reaction and allow your heart to heal. It is also possible they may want to start you on a diuretic (water-pill) and/or an ACE or ARB (angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitor or angiotensin receptor blocker) to temporarily decrease the load on your heart so it can heal more easily. If you get treatment soon enough, and the reaction wasn't too severe, there is no reason to think you won't make a full recovery.

One aspect of recovery you need to take absolutely seriously is the restriction on physical activity. Overwork a recovering heart, and you may end up dead, or with permanent damage. The general guideline is 3-6 months restriction to light physical activity, and your physician should define "light" for you, so there is no misunderstanding. Typically before giving you the go ahead to resume normal physical activity will involve an echocardiogram to know if there is any residual dysfunction of the ventricles.
 
I missed that, but you didn't address my points. It's cute when you link articles and videos that actually help my case and hurt your case. If you understood basic terminology or actually read the article instead of just blindly sharing shit your boomer uncle posts on Facebook you'd look like less of a fool.


Arrogance and narcissism at its finest. Your uneducated retard ass thinks he knows more about a virus than 99% of world-wide doctors and scientists :story:
I just love these guys when they get called out on their stats backpedal and show why they failed at school.

Not a single reference has been read by these guys...except a card held up by the Florida Gov. at a press conference.

More enjoyable is seeing them using their multiple accounts to give reactions - can you imagine being so consumed that their only way of retaliation against being beaten in conversations is to troll through your every post and "react" to them? It's like j walkers holding you up - its the only power they have in the world against you.
 
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If that many people out of a parachute class would end up dead on the ground because their parachute failed, those sports would be banned nationwide.

Hint: Its no longer a breakthrough case when a shit ton of vaccinated people get it. Its a sign that the jab is not protecting you from getting the coof.
If you dropped hundreds of millions of people out of planes with parachutes, quite a few would die.

Your posts are proving how completely inept you are at statistics and it's hilarious. If a vaccine is even 99% effective and you vaccinated 200 million people, that would still mean 2 million people would get it and be able to spread it. And due to our news cycle, you'd only hear about those 2 million people, not the 298 million people. Now, again, I know you anti-vax spazes have a well-deserved reputation for being inept at math and statistics, but you're really proving it here. Thank you for helping prove the stereotypes about you guys.

Most people getting covid are in fact unvaccinated. And again, I know you have autism and thus can't comprehend anything that isn't 0% or 100%, but ask your case worker to help you with that.

The lockdowns helped jack shit, look at sweden in comparison. You are 19 months in and some of those retards are calling for new lockdowns. Also, people back then, including those great W.H.O Doctors and scientists told people that the virus can't spread from human to human. Forgot that too right?
Lol Sweden had way more deaths per capita than their Nordic neighbors. Again, I know you are going to ignore this info because it doesn't suit your narrative and thus it gives you prickly wicklies, but that's how it is. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113834/cumulative-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-nordics/

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And im done arguing with a branch covidian. I sometimes wonder if you are actually that retarded or just some chinese dude paid to astroturf.

I am too busy chilling with all my childhood friends who suffered from breakthrough polio
PROTIP: Look at the date of that tweet. Again, I know you are inept at how science works, but scientists change their stance as new data comes in. If they were like you and refused to ever change their mind as new data comes in, they'd never change their stances and we'd still think the universe was geocentric and that disease was caused by humors being out of whack.

I have no idea how you are still completely unable to read what I write. I have to write the same things over and over again because your debilitating autism is so bad that you just can't comprehend the very simple things I am writing.
 
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