Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Shek$il]

There's only so much preparing you can do. Are you mad somebody told you to manage your money better once?

How did you reverse what I said into me being the unemployed, typhoid retard with no money? Are you turning schizophrenic?

 

[AnOminous]

How did you reverse what I said into me being the unemployed, typhoid retard with no money? Are you turning schizophrenic?

I suppose it could happen.

 

[Nobue]

They could still get the vaccine yet still not vaccinate their families and they'd keep their jobs. Plus food stamps and welfare exist, despite you GOP boomers trying to get rid of it.

A lot of docs are rich as fuck dude. After all, you say they're selling out humanity for vaccine profits. You're seriously a retard if you think that docs would willingly kill their own families to keep their jobs.


How would you know how humans think? You clearly have crippling autism and genuinely believe 99% of docs and scientists are willingly killing their own families to keep the conspiracy going. That's not a rational human thought, retard.

Also, still waiting on these dead bodies from the vaccine you claim exist. I know you're uneducated and are stupider than a 3rd grader when it comes to math, but I've shown you the math to back it up. Where are these dead bodies?


You're an obvious QAnoner dude. You believe QAnon level conspiracies. When is Hillary going to jail?

Their kids could be kicked out of school, and they might even assume it's inevitable they'll be forced to.

I just explained why many forms of assistance likely wouldn't be available. That's not taking into account many states will try to deny you benefits if you lose your job over jab-refusal.

I'm starting to think you live in a basement and have never had to support yourself. How does an independent adult think like this?

I'm ignoring the parts I've repeatedly discussed.

People doing what they need to to keep their jobs is Q-level stuff? Yeah, that the same as thinking sone dead Kennedy is secretly alive or something

 

[cuddle striker]

There's only so much preparing you can do. Are you mad somebody told you to manage your money better once?


Many states refuse to see vaccine-refusal as anything other than a justified dismissal. You might want to look up the requirements for any form of public assistance in most parts of the US.

Their money won't last-- they have bigger house payments, bigger property tax bills, multiple vehicles, kids possibly in private school, and years of malpractice insurance and paying back their student loans means many have made less than you think.

Besides, you're assuming people think like that, which they don't. That's why I'm accusing you of not having empathy.

Still on the Q stuff? Are you a Twitterfag when you aren't here? You just smear people by associating them with the groups your TV told you to.


The hospitals were totally overrun last year, and it turned out to only be in a few big cities. Stop buying into the propaganda.

I'm working in two hospitals. Direct line of sight. It's not regurgitated crap I read, unlike most of the denial salesmen.
yes, unvaccinated people get fired. for cause. they refuse to follow company policy.

they cannot collect unemployment if they are fired. they didn't "lose" their jobs, they quit or got fired for cause.

you can't go to work without pants.

edit: schools. from my perspective seeing dead bodies all day, they shouldn't be open, it's fucking catastrophe to do even that. schools with a mask mandate aren't safe, a vaccine mandate, none of it. shit's airborne.
they'll start requiring rapid tests before they ever kick kids out for not getting vaccinated. the rapid tests take a lot of pressure off.


these tards want to be victims so, so badly.

 

[Nobue]

How did you reverse what I said into me being the unemployed, typhoid retard with no money? Are you turning schizophrenic?

I always hear this argument from those types. Do you really think people are prepared for literally everything?

 

[AnOminous]

I'm ignoring the parts I've repeatedly discussed.

No, you're just ignoring the shit that you're obviously wrong about and have been repeatedly proved to be an utter moron about.

 

[Nobue]

I'm working in two hospitals. Direct line of sight. It's not regurgitated crap I read, unlike most of the denial salesmen.

My uncle works at Nintendo. Besides, like I said, it wasn't that no hospitals were overrun.

No, you're just ignoring the shit that you're obviously wrong about and have been repeatedly proved to be an utter moron about.

Nope.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Their kids could be kicked out of school, and they might even assume it's inevitable they'll be forced to.

Not yet they won't. Plus a ton of you scientist-hating GOPers homeschool your kids anyway. Again, I know you lack human emotions, but humans put their children's lives above all else.

I just explained why many forms of assistance likely wouldn't be available. That's not taking into account many states will try to deny you benefits if you lose your job over jab-refusal.

Except they would be available, retard. You still get food stamps and welfare even if you're ineligible for unemployment. Plus there's food pantries and such.Have you never had a job before?

Also, your logic is severely retarded. Let me explain it in a way that even someone as simple as you can understand.

Let's say you're a scientist and you believe that the vaccine is going to kill your children and family, but if you refuse to vaccinate yourself and them, you'll lose your job. Do you:
1. Do it anyway, knowing it'll kill your family, who is your world
2. Not do it, then show the evidence that it's super deadly and come forward with it

Now, I know you lack human emotions and are incredibly dense, uneducated and a simpleton, but humans would generally choose #2.

I'm starting to think you live in a basement and have never had to support yourself. How does an independent adult think like this?

Ironic coming from you of all people.

I'm ignoring the parts I've repeatedly discussed.

So you're ignoring the math because you're stupider than a third grader when it comes to math, or you know I am right and you refuse to admit it. Got it. Thanks for admitting I am right.

People doing what they need to to keep their jobs is Q-level stuff? Yeah, that the same as thinking sone dead Kennedy is secretly alive or something

Yes? You genuinely think people would kill tens of millions of people to keep their jobs. Again, I know you are confirmed to have crippling autism, but humans don't generally act that way.

 

[AnOminous]

Nope.

Reported for your arrogant doubleposting and single word reply. Suck a dick you evil faggot.

 

[Nobue]

Not yet they won't. Plus a ton of you scientist-hating GOPers homeschool your kids anyway. Again, I know you lack human emotions, but humans put their children's lives above all else.


Except they would be available, retard. You still get food stamps and welfare even if you're ineligible for unemployment. Plus there's food pantries and such.Have you never had a job before?

Also, your logic is severely retarded. Let me explain it in a way that even someone as simple as you can understand.

Let's say you're a scientist and you believe that the vaccine is going to kill your children and family, but if you refuse to vaccinate yourself and them, you'll lose your job. Do you:
1. Do it anyway, knowing it'll kill your family, who is your world
2. Not do it, then show the evidence that it's super deadly and come forward with it

Now, I know you lack human emotions and are incredibly dense, uneducated and a simpleton, but humans would generally choose #2.


Ironic coming from you of all people.


So you're ignoring the math because you're stupider than a third grader when it comes to math, or you know I am right and you refuse to admit it. Got it. Thanks for admitting I am right.


Yes? You genuinely think people would kill tens of millions of people to keep their jobs. Again, I know you are confirmed to have crippling autism, but humans don't generally act that way.

Dude, you're just mad a huge portion of the public has rejected your vax God.

Tell me-- in your average state, what are the requirements for food stamps? Also, do food stamps pay your house and car payments, and your taxes? I've known people who've tried to get on welfare. It's not as easy as you think if you've been working, going to school, or doing anything productive.

You keep acting like I've said every vaccination will lead to death. Never said that. You're also continuing to pretend that immediate death is he only possible outcome of vaccination. Again, you're up to tricks.

Reported for your arrogant doubleposting and single word reply. Suck a dick you evil faggot.

Haha, fag. That's two words. Maybe I'll report your double-posting, too.

 

[Product Placement]

I just love how normies actually believe that Facebook is the deepest depths of the wrong-thinking internet.


1. The facts show that SARS-CoV-2 is of no threat of severe population declines to Homos sapiens (which is arguably overpopulated anyways).
2. The facts also show that many individuals are of extremely low risk (>0.001%) of both death & post-viral effects.
3. The facts also show that natural immunity from prior infection is more versatile and comprehensive than any existing vaccine immunity.
4. The facts show that SARS-CoV-2 also mutates exponentially faster (like 3-4 decimal places faster) than any virus historically controlled by vaccines.
5. The facts also show that the virus is evolving rapidly right before our eyes and making the vaccines less effective with each Nth generation.

Yet you probably don't care about those facts because your personal ideological and moral beliefs have already made up your mind, haven't they?

Well, you haven't posted any sources to get me to believe any of what you posted and just said it is facts expecting me to take at face value what you are saying is true or rather not so you can go ha hypocrite but will try to answer your points here.

1. I agree Covid isn't a threat of severe population death and would never say it is, however many deaths are clearly preventable by just taking the vax. I don't like to see so many unneeded deaths even if the world is overpopulated.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

apnews.com

Vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in U.S.

A study estimated that COVID-19 vaccinations prevented nearly 140,000 deaths in the U.S. by May 2021.

www.nih.gov

2. Haven't been able to find anything that says post-viral effects are at (>0.001%), did find something which says more than half of people who get covid get "long covid". If you could post where you got that 0.0001 post-viral effects from that would be great would like to take a look at it.

Short- and Long-term Rates of Postacute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 Infection

This systematic review estimates organ system–specific frequency and evolution of postacute sequelae of COVID-19 infection.

jamanetwork.com

3. The idea of natural immunity vs vax is dumb as fuck, you can still take the vax after getting covid which does offer you more protection. But with the Delta variant yeah having the natural antibodies did offer more protection than being double vaxxed but that doesn't mean you should go out trying to get covid or not get a covid vax.

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19...

This report describes COVID-19 reinfection among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons in Kentucky.

www.cdc.gov

However, research has shown that 32% of people who get covid don't get any protective antibodies which gives another reason why those that have covid should get the vax.

Predictors of Nonseroconversion after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

Nonseroconversion after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

wwwnc.cdc.gov

4. Can't find anything saying it is the fast mutating virus historically controlled by vaccines, did find that it mutated 50% fast than previously but that really doesn't matter to your point here at all. So if you could give a source for this I would be interested in seeing it.

Mutation rate of Covid19 virus is at least 50 per cent higher than previously thought

New study from the Milner Centre for Evolution shows the virus that causes Covid19 mutates almost once a week.

www.bath.ac.uk

5. Also, a study from the UK about the effectiveness of the booster in over 50 with great results. So while vaxes do lose effectiveness any loss is offset by boosters going from the current research.

DEFINE_ME

 

[Shek$il]

I always hear this argument from those types. Do you really think people are prepared for literally everything?

I gave you and autistic rating for this one because the sheer audacity of acting like this was a sudden, lightning strike moment that took us all by surprise made me laugh. We've had two years of this pandemic, with safety requirements and vaccine progress shoved down our throats the entire time, and you're really enough of a retard to think people haven't been sufficiently told to not be a typhoid nigger.

You are Tina here.

 

[AnOminous]

Dude, you're just mad a huge portion of the public has rejected your vax God.

Tell me-- in your average state, what are the requirements for food stamps? Also, do food stamps pay your house and car payments, and your taxes? I've known people who've tried to get on welfare. It's not as easy as you think if you've been working, going to school, or doing anything productive.

You keep acting like I've said every vaccination will lead to death. Never said that. You're also continuing to pretend that immediate death is he only possible outcome of vaccination. Again, you're up to tricks.


Haha, fag. That's two words. Maybe I'll report your double-posting, too.

Bring it, bitch. Sorry you're such a cocksucking faggot that nothing you do will work.

 

[Nobue]

I gave you and autistic rating for this one because the sheer audacity of acting like this was a sudden, lightning strike moment that took us all by surprise made me laugh. We've had two years of this pandemic, with safety requirements and vaccine progress shoved down our throats the entire time, and you're really enough of a retard to think people haven't been sufficiently told to not be a typhoid nigger.

You are Tina here.

Say, why aren't the places that did things "right" doing better? If everyone had done like we have, this would've ended. Remember how everyone forgot this when retards rioted over a dead nigger?

Bring it, bitch. Sorry you're such a cocksucking faggot that nothing you do will work.

Someone's MATI. Can you get a booster for that?

 

[cuddle striker]

Well, you haven't posted any sources to get me to believe any of what you posted and just said it is facts expecting me to take at face value what you are saying is true or rather not so you can go ha hypocrite but will try to answer your points here.

1. I agree Covid isn't a threat of severe population death and would never say it is, however many deaths are clearly preventable by just taking the vax. I don't like to see so many unneeded deaths even if the world is overpopulated.

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

apnews.com

Vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in U.S.

A study estimated that COVID-19 vaccinations prevented nearly 140,000 deaths in the U.S. by May 2021.

www.nih.gov

2. Haven't been able to find anything that says post-viral effects are at (>0.001%), did find something which says more than half of people who get covid get "long covid". If you could post where you got that 0.0001 post-viral effects from that would be great would like to take a look at it.

Short- and Long-term Rates of Postacute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 Infection

This systematic review estimates organ system–specific frequency and evolution of postacute sequelae of COVID-19 infection.

jamanetwork.com

3. The idea of natural immunity vs vax is dumb as fuck, you can still take the vax after getting covid which does offer you more protection. But with the Delta variant yeah having the natural antibodies did offer more protection than being double vaxxed but that doesn't mean you should go out trying to get covid or not get a covid vax.

Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19...

This report describes COVID-19 reinfection among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons in Kentucky.

www.cdc.gov

However, research has shown that 32% of people who get covid don't get any protective antibodies which gives another reason why those that have covid should get the vax.

Predictors of Nonseroconversion after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

Nonseroconversion after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

wwwnc.cdc.gov

4. Can't find anything saying it is the fast mutating virus historically controlled by vaccines, did find that it mutated 50% fast than previously but that really doesn't matter to your point here at all. So if you could give a source for this I would be interested in seeing it.

Mutation rate of Covid19 virus is at least 50 per cent higher than previously thought

New study from the Milner Centre for Evolution shows the virus that causes Covid19 mutates almost once a week.

www.bath.ac.uk

5. Also, a study from the UK about the effectiveness of the booster in over 50 with great results. So while vaxes do lose effectiveness any loss is offset by boosters going from the current research.

DEFINE_ME

the best protection we have seen in clinical trial is someone who was infected early (alpha) then got vaccinated and boosted.
second best protective effect looks to be Delta plus the shots.

Pfizer X2 combined with moderna boost is next best.

any 2+booster is almost as good though.

My uncle works at Nintendo. Besides, like I said, it wasn't that no hospitals were overrun.

my uncle works as a veterinarian. he said you need a rabies shot, luckily those last 3 years.
found online at random. places that did things right have lower death rates post-vaccine and lower infection rates.
I know it's hard to do math, but there's more people in New York City than in the Dakotas. More people in California than the entire flyover. more people equals more everything. more idiots, more DUIs, more Honda accords, more covid.

and before you sperg about NYC, remember that the state is bigger than the city. same with LA/SF and rural CA.

 

[Shek$il]

Say, why aren't the places that did things "right" doing better? If everyone had done like we have, this would've ended. Remember how everyone forgot this when retards rioted over a dead nigger?

Put me back in touch with the original voice inside your head that told you to inform me it's unfair for people to get fired for not following company policies and making customers sick. This new voice is carrying on an argument you must have had with someone else.

 

[Nobue]

the best protection we have seen in clinical trial is someone who was infected early (alpha) then got vaccinated and boosted.
second best protective effect looks to be Delta plus the shots.

Pfizer X2 combined with moderna boost is next best.

any 2+booster is almost as good though.



my uncle works as a veterinarian. he said you need a rabies shot, luckily those last 3 years.

It's funny you mention that. I've got an irrational fear of rabies.

Put me back in touch with the original voice inside your head that told you to inform me it's unfair for people to get fired for not following company policies and making customers sick. This new voice is carrying on an argument you must have had with someone else.

A company can't legally demand sex or money for a job-- why should they be able to demand you subject yourself to medical experimentation?

 

[AnOminous]

Someone's MATI. Can you get a booster for that?

"I'm an idiot therefore you're mad." Nope doesn't work that way, moron. My family has excluded you idiots from our family gathering. Typhoid Maries are not welcome. Lmao, we're the ones celebrating a holiday, you're the ones crying on the Internet because you've been excluded.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Dude, you're just mad a huge portion of the public has rejected your vax God.

Really? More than half of people are vaccinated, so I'd say more have rejected your boomer GOP QAnon ways, son.

Tell me-- in your average state, what are the requirements for food stamps? Also, do food stamps pay your house and car payments, and your taxes? I've known people who've tried to get on welfare. It's not as easy as you think if you've been working, going to school, or doing anything productive.

It's a lot easier to get on right now, despite your GOP overlords best efforts. Again, you act like scientists and doctors are destitute. Like I said, most people, from my scenario, would choose #2 from my list. The fact none are shows you are wrong or are claiming to know more about this than scientists and doctors, despite being uneducated and literally a complete retard.

You keep acting like I've said every vaccination will lead to death. Never said that. You're also continuing to pretend that immediate death is he only possible outcome of vaccination. Again, you're up to tricks.

You've said it's more deadly than covid. Covid has a conservative death rate of 0.3%. So if we assume that 0.3% of people who get vaccinated will die, that's still tens of millions of dead people. Show me these dead people or admit you're full of shit.

It's gotta suck to be a doctor and have to deal with uneducated simpletons like @Nobue who have literal room-temperature IQs that think they know more about your own profession than you do.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

even if covid killed the % you dubiously claim,

It wasn't a population level %, it was an individual level %

And yes, kids are only at like 0.001% of death from COVID, and 1) this isn't taking into account over-reporting/over-estimation of COVID deaths, and 2) still at the age-cohort level and not at the individual level.

but you'll have to come to terms with the uncertainty of life, love and novel diseases eventually.

Right back at you.

my uncle works as a veterinarian. he said you need a rabies shot, luckily those last 3 years.

Considering Rabies has like a 100% lethality rate untreated indiscriminately across all age, race & health demographics, I'd argue there is a better case to get a rabies shot as a healthy individual this side of 35.