Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Wormy]

Ye of so little faith in the scientific sacrament. May lord Fauci judge your sacrilegious nature lightly.

Thou can proceed to urinate heavenward upon a hempen binding.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Medicine isn't a religion and your treating physician is the one who knows you. The CDC is just a government entity. It isn't my doctor.

Fauci I Am The Science / Senate Meme

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You dare go against the science? I bet you watch Tucker Carlson as well. If your doctor is in CA then watch out because he could lose his license going against The Science.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

All the vaxniggers here are gonna get their updated shot for the holidays, right? Don't want to kill grandma at the Christmas table.

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1600196243745013780?cxt=HHwWqICw9ayAhbUsAAAA

US President Biden isn't a physician; I'll take any advice regarding inoculations from my doctor or any other qualified medical professional and make my own informed decision thereafter, not due to some pontificating politician who's appealing to his base on Twatter of all places.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

US President Biden isn't a physician; I'll take any advice regarding inoculations from my doctor or any other qualified medical professional and make my own informed decision thereafter, not due to some pontificating politician who's appealing to his base on Twatter of all places.

Unless of course they put a mandate in requiring everyone to get it. Then all the "cdc isn't my doctor" people willingly line up to get an experimental shot for the sniffles.

Or were you one of the few who tried to get an exemption only to have it squashed by the same system who mandated you to get it?

So pathetic watching the same mandate compliant people now trying to act tough against Biden calling for updated vaccines.

 

[Lurker]

At least she at least vaccinated. Think how much worse it could have been if she wasn't.

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condolences if you are real posting

that was actually a realpost. my grandmother on my mom's side died of colon cancer when i was either in late middle school or early high school, though it's hard to remember. it felt like maybe a month between when we were told and when she died. my mom was the only one who went to see her in the hospital - she didn't want my brother and me to see her in the state she was in, and to remember her as she was. so i never got to say goodbye.

as for the vaccine, either you get it or you don't at this point. i admire that @Hollywood Hulk Hogan attempts to reason with anti-vaxers, but ultimately i know your mind is made up. i'm just here at this point to shitpost and contribute to the continued trashfire that is this thread.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

that was actually a realpost. my grandmother on my mom's side died of colon cancer when i was either in late middle school or early high school, though it's hard to remember. it felt like maybe a month between when we were told and when she died. my mom was the only one who went to see her in the hospital - she didn't want my brother and me to see her in the state she was in, and to remember her as she was. so i never got to say goodbye.

Tragic. I'm sorry. Personally think it's more important to give the final goodbye regardless of how they look. You can't sugarcoat death but depending on age I can understand the reasoning for wanting the "remember how they were".

as for the vaccine, either you get it or you don't at this point. i admire that @Hollywood Hulk Hogan attempts to reason with anti-vaxers, but ultimately i know your mind is made up. i'm just here at this point to shitpost and contribute to the continued trashfire that is this thread.

Trash fires are the best fire. I just hate how politicized into a purity test this shit became and now they are trying to walk it back

"No real lock down happened."
"You weren't forced to get it because they didn't hold you down"
"Cdc isn't my doctor so I'm not listening to them"
"My body my rights unless it's the vaccine mandate then you gotta get it"
Etc

When they were cheering on this clown world garbage to begin with

 

[clownworld]

Not getting it because it doesn't work, causes myocarditis and because it's cursed. Also I had covid already and it was nothing.

 

[Sithis]

You are literally proving my point more and more, lol. You gotta take into the account the ratio of the denominator. You are proving the reputation that you anti-vax simpletons are low IQ, uneducated retards more and more each post.

Alex Jones was never a professional fighter and is a fat manlet. He used to be a weight lifter but I am, too lol. He also looks like he gets winded going up a flight of stairs and has very high blood pressure based on his red skin. But of course, you claim he's the epitome of health because you Republican boomers love your conmen grifters.

"Ratio of the denominator"
Nigger the denominator in the new example I'm providing is 10, I even used a lower number than your previously given figure of 100 since even with nice round multiples of 10 you seemed to be confused and unable to stick with it. If you have 100 deaths, 100 is the denominator, because that's the subset of the population you're working with, not the 800 who got vaxed or the 200 who didn't.

And you still haven't answered how far you've moved your goalposts about vax effectiveness or safety btw. Last year you were seemingly in agreement with your pharma masters that it was the most effective vaccine ever. Now you refuse to even commit to a figure, you just keep making your retarded claim that "it's safe and effective enough" to make it worth it in the face of declining effectiveness and increased evidence of risk. So what will be the magic number? When 80% of people dying were vaxed? Because if the trend holds we should be at those figures by March or April.

I could've sworn that I had seen he had a history in MMA before as well but Google results for Alex Jones right now are about as helpful as asking twitter trannies what Kiwifarms track record against pedos is.
I did find this old weightlifting photo and a more recent one though. Still confident you're a manlet compared to him lmao




You realize there are numerous skin conditions which can cause the red skin without it being tied to blood pressure, right?

 

[AnOminous]

My personal opinion is Bill Hicks never died and is, in fact, now Alex Jones.

 

[coof coof]

Fine with me. I'm not going to be the one toe-tagging you.

Good one, dude. See you after New Years.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

"Ratio of the denominator"
Nigger the denominator in the new example I'm providing is 10, I even used a lower number than your previously given figure of 100 since even with nice round multiples of 10 you seemed to be confused and unable to stick with it. If you have 100 deaths, 100 is the denominator, because that's the subset of the population you're working with, not the 800 who got vaxed or the 200 who didn't.

And you still haven't answered how far you've moved your goalposts about vax effectiveness or safety btw. Last year you were seemingly in agreement with your pharma masters that it was the most effective vaccine ever. Now you refuse to even commit to a figure, you just keep making your retarded claim that "it's safe and effective enough" to make it worth it in the face of declining effectiveness and increased evidence of risk. So what will be the magic number? When 80% of people dying were vaxed? Because if the trend holds we should be at those figures by March or April.

I could've sworn that I had seen he had a history in MMA before as well but Google results for Alex Jones right now are about as helpful as asking twitter trannies what Kiwifarms track record against pedos is.
I did find this old weightlifting photo and a more recent one though. Still confident you're a manlet compared to him lmao

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You realize there are numerous skin conditions which can cause the red skin without it being tied to blood pressure, right?

Lol of course a retard like you is arguing that Alex Jones, the man with dark red skin who gets winded just sitting on a chair, is fit as fiddle and used to be a fighter (despite there being no record of him as a fighter). He used to lift weights and had a mediocre physique, whoopty do. I am far more muscular than that now and don't get winded just spazzing out about QAnon or whatever it is he is talking to you alt-right manlets these days.

And yes, the ratio of the denominator matters a lot. If 80% of the denominator has something, the odds are going to be higher than one of those 80% are in the numerator. Again, I know you hate everything to do with education like a good 75 year old senile Republican boomer, but you should listen to me on this. It's similar to seat belts.. most people in accidents who die were wearing seat belts. Do you know why that is? Most motorists are wearing seat belts. That doesn't' mean seat belts are less safe than not wearing one, though. Again, because the denominator has more people wearing seat belts.

Again, you are just digging your uneducated simpleton ass deeper each post you make. You'd think the alt-right retards who say "13% OF THE POPULATION COMMITS 50% OF THE CRIMES" would understand this, but then again, you guys have a world-wide reputation for being incredibly dense and retarded, so you gotta keep that up

 

[Sithis]

Lol of course a retard like you is arguing that Alex Jones, the man with dark red skin who gets winded just sitting on a chair, is fit as fiddle and used to be a fighter (despite there being no record of him as a fighter). He used to lift weights and had a mediocre physique, whoopty do. I am far more muscular than that now and don't get winded just spazzing out about QAnon or whatever it is he is talking to you alt-right manlets these days.

And yes, the ratio of the denominator matters a lot. If 80% of the denominator has something, the odds are going to be higher than one of those 80% are in the numerator. Again, I know you hate everything to do with education like a good 75 year old senile Republican boomer, but you should listen to me on this. It's similar to seat belts.. most people in accidents who die were wearing seat belts. Do you know why that is? Most motorists are wearing seat belts. That doesn't' mean seat belts are less safe than not wearing one, though. Again, because the denominator has more people wearing seat belts.

Again, you are just digging your uneducated simpleton ass deeper each post you make. You'd think the alt-right retards who say "13% OF THE POPULATION COMMITS 50% OF THE CRIMES" would understand this, but then again, you guys have a world-wide reputation for being incredibly dense and retarded, so you gotta keep that up

And yet you worry yourself into fits over the coof like a fatass. Yeah my money is still on Alex.. you realize we are talking about the real you, not the retarded tan wrestler you have as an avatar, right?

"If 80% of the denominator has something, the odds are going to be higher than one of those 80% are in the numerator."
You realize that you basically just said "if 80% of people have the vax, then more people with the vax are dying," right? So thanks for finally agreeing with me lmao yes more people with the vax are dying and that share has been going up while the rates of people vaxed have stayed at 80% for over a year. Which has been my point this whole time - if the vax rates are still the same they were in September 2021, which they are, and the people dying from the coof while being vaxed have doubled and then doubled and then nearly doubled again within that same time span, the non-retarded conclusion to arrive at is that the vax is losing effectiveness over time, or possibly never was as effective as touted. Otherwise, as I tried explaining to you multiple times, the share of vaxtards in any given selection of death counts over time would decrease or stay constant since you'd be burning through the population subsets that had glaring comorbidities etc first. That's not what's happening, and it bears investigation as to what it is about the vax itself that is providing less "protection".
Using your own retarded example about seatbelts - if you somehow knew that 80% of people had been using one of only 3 brands of seatbelts consistently for over a year and you had X amount of deaths and X stayed the same over that year, sure, you could conclude that those brands of seatbelts are at least safe and effective.
That's not what's happening with the coof example though. If you had your seatbelts setup and discovered that Month 1 you had X deaths w/ a specific few brands of seatbelts, then in Month 6 you had 2X deaths, then in month 12 you had almost 3X deaths, and you didn't at least wonder whether those branded seatbelts were actually good seatbelts or not, you'd either be a retard or a sociopath. Someone with a brain and functioning empathy would say "hmm maybe we need new seatbelts". You say "lol dying with your seatbelt on is an alex Jones conspiracy theory, chud!"


this whole waste of time has been made worth it though by me buckbreaking you so thoroughly that you, Hollywood Hulk Hogan, are now using the 13/50 stat as evidence in a debate as though you affirm it's truth. You, the one person still in this thread who is enough of a leftist to typically shriek about right wing racism, are using a statistic that everyone else on your side swears is an alt right super racist plot on par with eugenics and the final solution. Bravo, sir, bravo.

FWIW though that example kinda falls flat the way you're trying to use it. Even most of us who use it unironically understand that just because black people make up 13% of the population that doesn't translate 1;1 into turning into a murderous nigger, there are other factors involved and being an urbanite or coming from a fatherless home seem to really exacerbate the mix. If you're trying to use that for your argument you need to start factoring in other things with the coof and vax, things like comorbidities, boosters, age etc and considering we've had such a hangup just getting you to acknowledge the function of basic fractional math I don't think you're ready for that leap yet.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

COVID-19 vaccine boosters for young adults: a risk benefit assessment and ethical analysis of mandate policies at universities | Journal of Medical Ethics

Conclusion​

Based on public data provided by the CDC, we estimate that in the fall of 2022 at least 31 207–42 836 young adults aged 18–29 years must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one Omicron-related COVID-19 hospitalisation over 6 months. Given the fact that this estimate does not take into account the protection conferred by prior infection or a risk adjustment for comorbidity status, this should be considered a conservative and optimistic assessment of benefit. Our estimate shows that university COVID-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—for each hospitalisation averted we estimate approximately 18.5 SAEs and 1430–4626 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit. Serious COVID-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty and human rights are ethically unjustifiable.


if you're under 40 got this shit you're a fuckin retard nigger

not getting it

As of August 2022, this estimate had not been updated to reflect increasing natural immunity or waning vaccine effectiveness.

Antibody affinity and cross-variant neutralization of SARS-CoV-2 Omicron BA.1, BA.2 and BA.3 following third mRNA vaccination - August 8th, 2022​

I also enjoy papers from morons too stupid to search databases!

 

[Wormy]

If your doctor is in CA then watch out because he could lose his license going against The Science.

Good thing my doc's here in the hills where we don't cotton to that Commie-fornia yankee shit.

Unless of course they put a mandate in requiring everyone to get it.

Oh? Is there one in the works?

When they were cheering on this clown world garbage to begin with

I always was against the mandate. Mandates on this level and scale NEVER work out as intended. Said it then, saying it now.

I could've sworn that I had seen he had a history in MMA

Alex would have been what's known as a "tomato can".

 

[Null]

I also enjoy papers from morons too stupid to search databases!

still not getting it

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Nope. I never will. Not only because I have naturally-acquired immunity, but also to spite everyone around me and the government too.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

I also enjoy papers from morons too stupid to search databases!

Yea,h how dare these morons from Oxford University with help from 8 other doctors around the globe not do their research before the timeframe that is up to date to the speed of science!

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Yea,h how dare these morons from Oxford University with help from 8 other doctors around the globe not do their research before the timeframe that is up to date to the speed of science!View attachment 4026960

That only makes it more embarrassing on their part...

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Which they then tell to their friends and family at the holiday dinner table as a fun festive story time?

Again sounds like a bunch of ghouls who don't care about their charges. No wonder they have a bunch of deaths under their watch.

What hospital do they work at so I know which to avoid.

If I was a empathic Healthcare professional who wanted to save lives. The last thing I would do is take joy in recalling tales of my patients dying. Each death would be a tragedy not a family story. But hey you and your Addams family do what you do I guess.

If you were actually empathetic, you wouldn't attack them for sharing their experience and assume they are making a spectacle of a sad event. What makes you think that person isn't traumatized from witnessing death and suffering on a daily basis?

Do you get this bitchy whenever a war veteran regales others with war stories?

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

I always was against the mandate. Mandates on this level and scale NEVER work out as intended. Said it then, saying it now.

If you're sincere then good on you unlike the rest of these bootlicking chucklefucks.

If you were actually empathetic, you wouldn't attack them for sharing their experience and assume they are making a spectacle of a sad event. What makes you think that person isn't traumatized from witnessing death and suffering on a daily basis?

Do you get this bitchy whenever a war veteran regales others with war stories?

I'm sure his imaginary story actually did happen. Also don't insult war veterans by comparing them to cna's and hospital janitors.

still not getting it

Can we get a tag or trophy for us pure bloods?