Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[VIPPER?]

I wouldn't have otherwise but I was required to for work. At least it was free and pretty easy.

And either my immune system is the bomb or literally does not work at all because other than usual post-shot soreness at the injection site, I didn't feel a thing or get any side effects like fever or rashes.

1000mg of Vitamin C

why not just eat an orange nigga hahahahahahahahaha

 

[Musashi]

start taking prophylactics like 20-40mg of zinc
1000mg of Quercetin
1000mg of Vitamin C
An amino acid supplement

Trace mineral supplement to restore what the zinc leeches (Selenium, Copper)
Maybe you just treat yourself like shit so your immune system is shit.

I’m healthy as much as possible. Its my medication that shits on my immune system every two weeks

I’m controlling it very well don’t worry. Thanks for the tips though!

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

The best part is, none of them are ever held responsible. They get a fine and pass the cost to the consumer, or they declare bankruptcy and restructure to come back just as shitty as ever (Purdue, for example).

They always get a slap on the wrist. In '96 Pfizer killed about 50 (out of 200 subjects) Nigerian kids with some experimental antibiotic, and fucked up many others (mental + physical disabilities). Their parents weren't told it was experimental. Didn't get signed consent. Tried to blackmail a Nigerian official to cover it up.

But I'm sure they've changed their ways and their newest product is safe. If you think otherwise you're an evil tin-foil hat anti-vaxxer.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

They always get a slap on the wrist. In '96 Pfizer killed about 50 (out of 200 subjects) Nigerian kids with some experimental antibiotic, and fucked up many others (mental + physical disabilities). Their parents weren't told it was experimental. Didn't get signed consent. Tried to blackmail a Nigerian official to cover it up.

But I'm sure they've changed their ways and their newest product is safe. If you think otherwise you're an evil tin-foil hat anti-vaxxer.

Exactly, yes. These people have faith that big pharma suddenly had a change of heart and stopped doing the one thing it's incentivized to do. They believe that big pharma suddenly stopped testing experimental unsafe drugs on unwitting people with no repercussions. It's not like a cult or anything, right? They believe that companies who engage in such evil acts will receive adequate punishment from some kind of government big brother figure, but cannot name a single company it happened to in the last 150 years.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

I might have to if I wanna keep living at the boarding house in the event I have to get it what one is the safest

The Pfizer and Moderna ones are both more safe and more effective based on the data. Astra Zeneca and J&J can cause a type of blood clot to your brain that is very rare but they're seeing it a lot more than is statistically expected with those two vaccines. The first two are called mRNA vaccines and the latter two are called adenovirus vaccines.

 

[TV's Adam West]

>Not getting a life saving vaccine because you don't trust the government

Okay Chud

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

These tards don't know the difference between mRNA and the viral vector ones, so you're wasting your time asking. The fake biologist will google some differences but he will fail to understand them because he wasn't even aware there was different types until I pointed it out to him

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

Adenovirus process is more commonplace and better documented but both types of vaccines are untested
long term. Let the beta testers deal with the side effects.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Adenovirus process is more commonplace and better documented but both types of vaccines are untested
long term. Let the beta testers deal with the side effects.

If you mean 45 years isn't long term, then you may have a point

 

[glib]

I wouldn't have otherwise but I was required to for work. At least it was free and pretty easy.

And either my immune system is the bomb or literally does not work at all because other than usual post-shot soreness at the injection site, I didn't feel a thing or get any side effects like fever or rashes.


why not just eat an orange nigga hahahahahahahahaha

One orange is around 50mg of vitamin c.
He'd have to eat ~20 oranges.
The other thing is taking the supplements together is important. The zinc and quinones from the quercetin work together.

 

[Not Really Here]

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

This is the first ever vaccine for a corona virus. It was developed, approved and distributed for mass inoculation in under two years.
I don't buy first generation consumer products because of the failure rate, and those don't get injected into my body, I'll just let the hand sanitizer three times a day generation be the test subjects on this one.

 

[VIPPER?]

One orange is around 50mg of vitamin c.
He'd have to eat ~20 oranges.

It might not have been my best moment but certainly wasn't my worst but I ate an entire crate of clementines once. in my defense i was like 12

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

I only don't get shots unless directed to because I skipped a few years worth of flu shots and never really got any others, and never got deathly sick. It's not distrust, just laziness. Or maybe distrust, but more in the efficacy more than it being bill gates' nanomachines or being dumb enough to think they're just injecting bugs in me.
I don't even take allergy meds in spring because I never noticed a real difference on or off, and hey, that's a trip to Pharmaprix and 20 bux to save over just doing literally nothing. The only meds I keep in my house are antacidsand gravol for going to sea. I feel medicine to be mostly a scam in that it doesn't work well enough to justify my money or effort rather than that it'll do something worse than doing nothing.

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This is the first ever vaccine for a corona virus. It was developed, approved and distributed for mass inoculation in under two years.
I don't buy first generation consumer products because of the failure rate, and those don't get injected into my body, I'll just let the hand sanitizer three times a day generation be the test subjects on this one.

Also this. Again, I don't think it'll do any damage, but modern consumer goods are mostly trash that don't work and I refuse to buy in. I'll let survivorship bias do the work and get stuff once it's proven if a need comes up.

 

[Thomas Highway]

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

I don't have a rational reason for not getting it. It isn't because I'm afraid of the gubmint or that I beat on a Bible and find conspiracies in everything.

I'm afraid of needles and I'm afraid of vaccines developed this fast. That's legit all there is to it. I still wear my mask everywhere I go and I'm posting here on a Saturday night so clearly I'm not going to a lot of parties to where I will infect/spread.

 

[benis154262]

>he still thinks we’re going to go back to normal someday

I swear to god we could be wearing masks and social distancing 10 years from now and people like OP will still be like “THIS COULD’VE ALL BEEN PREVENTED IF THOSE DUMB CONSERVATIVE HICKS WORE THE MASK!!”

 

[CEO of Pickles]

So COVID-vax hesitant people in this thread... which type of vaccine do you consider more dangerous and problematic? The adenovirus ones or the RNA ones and why?

DNA/RNA (injecting genetic cheat codes) and Virus vectors (injecting a weakened version of the virus to train the immune system) both have pros and cons. Same with Live-attenuated virus and Inactivated vaccines.
In my opinion the more dangerous one are the ones with a <75% effective rate (why bother with a quarter chance it doesn't even work) and ones with a bodycount.
Speaking of which, what are your opinions on protein subunit?

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

These tards don't know the difference between mRNA and the viral vector ones, so you're wasting your time asking. The fake biologist will google some differences but he will fail to understand them because he wasn't even aware there was different types until I pointed it out to him

I saw a lot of more vax-hesistant folks claiming the adenovirus ones are safer bc the technology is older. That was before the media started reported on those rare blood clots. I don't know if it's worth it to risk lives to these blood clots because they are often deadly but COVID infection itself also causes blood clots and is more deadly by orders of magnitude. Why can't we just have enough of the good vaccines for everyone instead of this two tiered bullshit?
My dad has COPD and he doesn't give a shit about waiting for the Pfizer vaccine to be available, AZ was available first by about two weeks for him so he's taking the first he can get. I'd prefer him getting one of the more effective RNA ones that don't cause these rare clots but he's right the risk is extremely small and the risk of someone with COPD getting this virus is huge.
Apparently Canada has a big stock of AZ they want to get rid of because people are canceling their appointments and waiting for the better one. So people cynically think they're just trying to get rid of their stock by saying "taking the first vaccine you have access to is the smartest choice". I think that might be partially true but there's also truth in it that some people would be foolish to take a "wait and watch" approach.

DNA/RNA (injecting genetic cheat codes) and Virus vectors (injecting a weakened version of the virus to train the immune system) both have pros and cons. Same with Live-attenuated virus and Inactivated vaccines.
In my opinion the more dangerous one are the ones with a <75% effective rate (why bother with a quarter chance it doesn't even work) and ones with a bodycount.
Speaking of which, what are your opinions on protein subunit?

I agree with you but I don't know what a protein subunit is. I consider myself pro-vax but I think people trivializing the problems with the AZ one like being not that effective and can kill you (rarely) will make people trust vaccines less in general. Especially in people who were distrustful of vaccination to begin with. So is the stuff about making vaccines mandatory. It makes sense in theory because herd immunity means the vast majority needs to be vaccinated against something to protect those who cannot be vaccinated themselves and/or cannot produce enough antibodies to protect themselves. But that's another thing people will see as coercive and empower their anti-vax biases.
I'm no scientist just a concerned citizen but from my understanding, they don't know how/if herd immunity will work for COVID... HOWEVER, all the vaccines seem to lower the risk of severe, fatal COVID infection. So a silver lining is this might be a case where it's really all up to the individual and only really effects them. Then nobody can feel their liberty is being violated but people can still protect themselves from a deadly disease. Maybe vaccines in the future will be more like this? If they didn't rely on herd immunity then both pro and anti vaxers could be happy and not getting vaxed wouldn't kill someone's poor beloved grandma.

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>he still thinks we’re going to go back to normal someday

I swear to god we could be wearing masks and social distancing 10 years from now and people like OP will still be like “THIS COULD’VE ALL BEEN PREVENTED IF THOSE DUMB CONSERVATIVE HICKS WORE THE MASK!!”
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At least he's not an absolute cuck pretending he likes wearing masks and it's all coolio I get to wear my Star Wars mask derp.

 

[Vulva Gape]

start taking prophylactics like 20-40mg of zinc
1000mg of Quercetin
1000mg of Vitamin C
An amino acid supplement

So no vaccines cause muh pharma but you fell for the vitamin industry marketing... Just don't eat like shit and you'll be fine. The only supplement that is worth its salt is Vitamin D (since most people are deficient).

>he still thinks we’re going to go back to normal someday

I mean I hope so. I'm vaxxed now so I'm living normally, only wearing a mask when I'm forced to. Variants or not they gotta open this shit up. Unless we go full clown world.

 

[glib]

So no vaccines cause muh pharma but you fell for the vitamin industry marketing... Just don't eat like shit and you'll be fine. The only supplement that is worth its salt is Vitamin D (since most people are deficient).


I mean I hope so. I'm vaxxed now so I'm living normally, only wearing a mask when I'm forced to. Variants or not they gotta open this shit up. Unless we go full clown world.

What exactly is your position on how the human body works?
If the body needs nutrients then it seeks out food. Being "full" doesn't necessarily mean you're nourished, or have all of the nutrients the body requires.
You're advocating for a brand new mRNA instruction set to be unleashed on someone's body. All i'm saying is make sure you have the proper proteins (amino acids), and enough vitamins for the body to function.
This by the way doesn't come from the vitamin industry this is a protocol for COVID + adding nutrients when certain foods might not supply you with enough.
After all, I did this on the assumption that he had poor nutrition and overall health. Turns out its pharmaceutical.
They say to get outside to get vitamin d. Some people work indoors all day long. Some people live in environments where the sun is out for only small amounts of time. Is it stupid for them to take a supplement?

TLDR; "go get the experimental vaccine and just dont eat like shit" vs "you don't have to get the experimental vaccine, its a leap of faith based on little data, instead, first try supplementing your immune system".

What are the long term effects of supplementing your diet with some vitamins and minerals? Health?
Now what are the long term side effects of this vaccine? We don't know because they didn't do long term studies.

Why wouldn't i think you're a literal paid employee for an industry? You might as well be.

 

[Vulva Gape]

What exactly is your position on how the human body works?
If the body needs nutrients then it seeks out food. Being "full" doesn't necessarily mean you're nourished, or have all of the nutrients the body requires.

Yes - so why supplement if you do not know whether you are deficient or not? Taking factors of 10+ of DV of vitamins does not magically make you healthier unless you're deficient. Anyone is better off talking to a doctor and getting blood tests for any suspected deficiencies than taking expensive vitamins at random. Not to mention that the amount absorbed by the body through these vitamins is usually poor, and packaging, storage, heat etc, all would affect its efficacy, and getting high quality ones are very expensive. If you're nutritionally deficient, you need to change your lifestyle, not only treat the symptom through vitamins (unless your doctor tells you to).

You're advocating for a brand new mRNA instruction set to be unleashed on someone's body.

Nope. mRNA technology has been used for decades.

All i'm saying is make sure you have the proper proteins (amino acids), and enough vitamins for the body to function.

Yes. So eat a balanced diet fatty. Your 100 dollar gummies are for faggots who don't know how to cook.

They say to get outside to get vitamin d. Some people work indoors all day long. Some people live in environments where the sun is out for only small amounts of time. Is it stupid for them to take a supplement?

Learn to read.

What are the long term effects of supplementing your diet with some vitamins and minerals? Health?

A lot of wasted money. Additives and agents that can cause inflammation or other issues. Placebo effect.

Now what are the long term side effects of this vaccine?

It's been 5+ months and no one has keeled over yet. The antibodies go away after some time. How would these side effects last longer than that?

 

[Uncle Warren]

I've finally gotten the vaccine, and my card too to prove it. There was no pain or anything. I'm pretty certain people are just acting like whiny conspiracy faggots about this shit and should just go and die off already to improve the IQ of the general population.