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Oh, it'll hurt alright. You'll wake up the next morning with an agonizing 100 degree fever and mild soreness at the injection site. Bet that'll make you think twice about getting the jab, huh?
Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution
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I got it yesterday mate.
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Lay off the Alex Jones.
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What mRNA vaccines have been deployed like this before? They're not FDA approved like i said. The CDC themselves admit that this is the first mRNA vaccine. All the others they list are different types. The research for this vaccine does not have the typical 8 years of observation behind it. You're talking about 5+ months since deployment like that's some kind of long term thing. Maybe there's nothing wrong with it at all. Although, the VAERS system has a pretty big uptick in reports lately so I don't know "how well its going". Could be nothing.
If someone has a deficiency in something, then a supplement is usually prescribed. Most doctors start with obvious advice and common sense. "Eat, drink, and sleep well". I don't understand why you act like what i'm saying is not the next step in thinking. You're so concise about how things like storage and heat could effect the efficacy of a vitamin, and how expensive it is to get good quality stuff. Therefore, the intake of such things doesn't have value? Based on what research?
I could be here saying to take eat some coconut oil or some fish oil for example. Those are basically food items with high nutritional value. Is concentrated fish material too abstract for you to comprehend as a supplement that is "good for you", or is it part of a "well balanced diet" since its "made out of food"? Either way i think what is in it is helpful based on what i've read, and experienced myself.
You're gung ho about people getting this mRNA thing. Operation Warp Speed and all that. I'm pretty sure there are many more clinical trials on 1000mg of vitamin c to help your immune system than a jab of mRNA instructions.
There are a variety of reasons why someone would need to supplement something. "eat a balanced diet" is a good place to start, but it really doesn't cover everyone's situation. The Vitamin D thing is spot on because you say that its the only thing worth taking. Okay, even if that contradicts your other argument about storage and all that.
At the same time you don't apply your "eat a balanced diet" argument to Vitamin D. You should, and would if you were consistent. The Sun is a source of Vitamin D. Why not just say to someone "go outside and stand in the sun." Sometimes "just go outside idiot" doesn't cover it.
But where is that common sense thinking with your attitude about this new injection? Explain to me why you think these new injections are so important? Is it to avoid the sickness? Or are you purporting that we can beat the virus by having a unilateral vaccination? Is there any documented evidence that would support these claims?
If the vaccine doesn't work 100 percent of the time, then what percentage is good enough? How long will it take for us to determine if this vaccine has done its job and the virus is gone? Will the virus ever go away? If it doesn't then does that mean we should keep vaccinating ourselves with new variants to match new mutations? What if we just didn't?
I personally haven't done anything aside from improve my life and add supplements. It's done me pretty well. Then i go online and see you getting mad and putting out the big lie about how well made this thing is and how everyone should get it.
I still won't get it. Because like i said, I had the 2 week pneumonia, which they say conveys a high level of immunity because of the antibodies i naturally produced. I feel confident taking my little protocol of vitamins. I've been going around wearing cloth masks that don't block the transmission of a virus that they say is supposed to be stopped by an n95 mask with goggles. I haven't been wearing gloves. I'm more confident in what i'm doing than whatever new thing you're peddling. Everyone else, good luck.
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Don't take more than the daily maximum value of Vitamin C, or any other antioxidant. You do really need a good quantity of oxidation activity in your body to kill transformed cells, and things like that.
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VItamin C for immune function is a myth conjured up to sell Airborne. It doesn't hold up under any clinical testing and they've been sued before for false advertising. There is evidence that a vitamin C deficiency can weaken your immune system because no shit a nutrient deficiency will do that to you, but that doesn't work in reverse and give you a better immune system when you take too much of it. The same defense you always hear is, "Well I think it works for me," which is the same thing people say about crystal healing and prayer healing. The only effect of taking 1000 mg of vitamin C a day that has any clinical significance is that it helps build strong kidney stones.
That's what happens when you only look at acute toxicity effects, which are essentially none for vitamin C. Lack of acute toxicity doesn't mean there's no health effects from chronic toxicity. In this case, it's your ureters getting shredded by oxalates from all the excess vitamin C you've been pushing through your kidneys. It makes no damn sense to take vitamin C supplements when the side effects are well known and the benefits are completely unfounded. Whether it's a necessary nutrient or a big structural chemical name, there's no pill-shaped shortcuts to health.
If you want to support your immune system, wash your hands after you wipe your ass. That will do more for your health than megadosing on bullshit supplements, and it protects other people from your pestilence too.
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Enough you two are shitting up this thread!
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I've got a first Pfizer shot and haven't died yet – I'll try to update you when that changes. 
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Live virus/viral vector is probably more dangerous in the short term, though still rare.
These are the first mRNA vaccines, so there is a big unknown factor to them.
But for me personally it doesn't matter because COVID was nothing.
Its normal down here in palm tree land.
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Lefties love accusing their opponents of lacking empathy. When this tactic works, ironically, it's only because its target has the empathetic ability common to the human species and knows not caring about people is a bad thing. Also ironically, it's the sort of accusation that comes out of people narcissistic enough to believe that agreeing with them is a prerequisite for having human characteristics.
Fuck off, Karen. My body, my choice. Life has risks. Old people die. I wash my hands and I don't go barfing on retirement homes. Only last year did lunatics decide that the acceptable risk threshold was zero, and anyone caught outside a cocoon of bubble wrap was a dangerous murderer. I'm way more concerned with the insane government overreach, constant goalpost shifting, and unending lies from the powers that be than I am with this cold. Every single claim that we all need to do "just one more thing" to get back to normal has been a fat fucking lie, and these vaccines are no exception.
Yeah, you wish. The difference between me and these psycho Covid munchies is that I don't give a shit if they poke themselves with a needle full of messenger RNA or chicken soup. They want daddy government to ruin my life if *I* don't.
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Biontech can (apparently) cause Myocarditis (if you exercise after the vaccination). Myocarditis can happen after getting certain vaccines.
Astra and J&J can cause blood-clots.
All the adverse events happened to a really small percentage of people getting the vaccines.
Boths these things are also complications of CoVid (besides the obvious not breathing thing) and the chance to get this from CoVid is a lot higher than from the Vaccines. In fact, blood clots are big factor in CoVid-deaths. Also, even after mild cases of CoVid your death risk is up to 60% higher compared to people who have not had CoVid for at least 6 months. And then there is Long-CoVid which can fuck you up for a long time.
I would think this is a no-brainer. But what do I know? I'm just a nerd on the internet.
Astra and J&J can cause blood-clots.
All the adverse events happened to a really small percentage of people getting the vaccines.
Boths these things are also complications of CoVid (besides the obvious not breathing thing) and the chance to get this from CoVid is a lot higher than from the Vaccines. In fact, blood clots are big factor in CoVid-deaths. Also, even after mild cases of CoVid your death risk is up to 60% higher compared to people who have not had CoVid for at least 6 months. And then there is Long-CoVid which can fuck you up for a long time.
I would think this is a no-brainer. But what do I know? I'm just a nerd on the internet.
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You are an idiot if you think getting these shots will end the lockdowns/masks. Also fuck yourself. My body my choice this isn't Nazi Germany.
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Kornula
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I'm not getting the "vaccine" because we don't need it. Covid is not a pandemic.
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Just be more scared, pussy!
EyelessMC
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Always glad to hear another Kiwi is okay, especially Secret Santa Kiwi. My counterpoint: All of my previous posts with information in this thread.
Anyway, I just found an interesting vid which brushes on the question some people have posted akin to, "What would be the incentive to pump out and lie about vaccines?"
No, it's not some mass culling or mass sterilization conspiracy (I hope lol). Really, it just comes down to the same thing it always has...
The nature of scientific studies and regulatory agencies
Bill Gates advising Trump (President at the time) not to investigate "ill effects of vaccines"
Something interesting...
Something interesting...
Not saying the Covid vaccines are as dangerous as smoking obviously only the retarded would think I'm saying that, or that I'm implying there's some great conspiracy of powers and money moguls trying to kill people. It's simply business.
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Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
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To be fair, just because you had a bad immediate reaction doesn't mean you will have long term problems.
I had 24 hours of hell the day after getting the Yellow Fever vaccine, but then I was fine.
EyelessMC
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Well if companies and regulatory agencies are doing anything secretive and colluding together then it's technically a conspiracy since they'd be conspiring together. However it doesn't seem secretive, really, unless their studies are being fudged and the agencies are going along with it. Otherwise it's just the media redirecting focus for their own reason, governments opening the door wider for vaccine companies for their own reason and vaccine companies/BigPharma doing what BigPharma has always done for cash. Like discussed in the Kinsey thread, disparate parties with different intentions can overlap, and everyone is concerned about the virus so overlap is to be expected.
Unless you meant "conspiracy theory" in which case no, that'd be the people screaming about microchips being hidden inside the vaccines. lol
Although, their seemingly schizophrenic fears didn't start in a vacuum... But if that kinda thing was ever to be implemented it would be openly and broadly not hidden away by a some vax Illuminati. It would be accepted and encouraged
like vaccine passports
That's true. It's why I've only really been focusing on the neurological effects rather than the fever or aches. A lot of that is normal for regular vaccines so I'd imagine it'd be a similar variety of rough for mRNA vaccines, too.