Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Thomas Highway]

Stop trying to pretend there are rational arguments for not getting the jab. Its fucking gay. Just admit you're scared and take your lumps.

 

[EyelessMC]

Stop trying to pretend there are rational arguments for not getting the jab. Its fucking gay. Just admit you're scared and take your lumps.

Watch the video or admit you're scared and take your lumps. See how dumb that reasoning is?

Flu shots are only somewhat effective. You can still get the flu after taking it.

No vaccine is 100% effective. What are you talking about?

I mean in terms of protecting you from the illness it's supposed to protect against. Of course nothing is perfect and in the field of health especially there's always differing factors between individuals.

The point is you're highly unlikely to get the flu if you are vaccinated, whereas you're still likely to be a carrier and get sick from Covid if you get vaccinated. Covid, mind you, is being treated as far more dangerous than the flu,hence why I cheekily compared its vaccinations to the Ebola vaccine or getting shot by bullets.
But fair enough. If the seemingly wonky nature of the Covid vaccines' effectiveness is to be ignored due to the lack of perfection from vaccines in general then fine. I'll drop it.

Does not change everything else I said, though, like how getting vaccinated for someone else's benefit is useless compared to the people most at risk getting vaccinated--hence the Karen family thing I said.

It's like saying you shouldn't wear a parachute when skydiving because it sometimes fails.

My bullet proof vest analogy was to indicate the stupidity of designing a bullet proof vest that still lets bullets rip you apart, not to suggest bullet proof vests are universally useless. Your parachute analogy is wrong.

Spoiler: Also lol

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

Stop trying to pretend there are rational arguments for not getting the jab. Its fucking gay. Just admit you're scared and take your lumps.

if you're still proudly wearing your face diaper then you're in no position to talk

 

[Plank]

Stop trying to pretend there are rational arguments for not getting the jab. Its fucking gay. Just admit you're scared and take your lumps.

LOL impotent little clown.

We've been back to our normal lives for months and only stop by these sad little covidclown threads to laugh at the tards.

And, yes, the millions and millions of us people who aren't ever going to get a PalsyJab does make the idiots who did look like a bunch of fucking morons.

 

[Thomas Highway]

LOL impotent little clown.

We've been back to our normal lives for months and only stop by these sad little covidclown threads to laugh at the tards.

And, yes, the millions and millions of us people who aren't ever going to get a PalsyJab does make the idiots who did look like a bunch of fucking morons.

I haven't got the jab because I'm scared of it. But I'm honest and don't wrap it up in a bunch of faggotry.

 

[LillanaKitten]

I got the Pfizer vaccine. It did made me feel terrible for a week the first dose. The second dose I ended up in ER with a cytokine reaction. The Dr gave me a steroid shot and I felt great afterwards. My parents are chronically ill. So I got the shot to protect them mostly since I take care of them.

I understand why some people don't want the vaccine. However I feel if enough people get it we will get here immunity.

 

[Vulva Gape]

The point is you're highly unlikely to get the flu if you are vaccinated

No you're not lol

whereas you're still likely to be a carrier and get sick from Covid if you get vaccinated

Nope.

94-95% vs 40%. What's not clicking dude?

Does not change everything else I said, though, like how getting vaccinated for someone else's benefit is useless compared to the people most at risk getting vaccinated--hence the Karen family thing I said.

Herd immunity. It's a thing.

The 94% effective bulletproof vest is your only option. Why go in the ring without it? We're talking about the poster who had immunocompromised friends.

 

[EyelessMC]

No you're not lol

Yes you are, otherwise the flu vaccine would be a loser's gamble, and all you did here was post a link to the very thing I posted an image of.

Nope.

94-95% vs 40%. What's not clicking dude?

It's 40-60% not just 40%. Why are you trying to drag flu vaccines through the mud just to pedestal Covid vaccines?
As for what's "not clicking", how about the span of time spent testing and developing flu vaccines under scrutiny vs the span of time pushing out Covid vaccines under emergency measures and a suddenly burgeoning market profit?
Also this from the link you provided:

Clinical trials suggest high efficacy for COVID-19 vaccines, but evaluation of vaccine effectiveness against severe outcomes in real-world settings and in populations at high risk, including older adults, is needed.

FACT
No flu vaccine was developed, produced and put into mass order vaccination in less than a year, using experimental technology which was studied in a niche scientific field for a decade (Moderna did it for a decade and had never produced anything for the market until Covid) before suddenly being used to produce a vaccine for the first time--vaccines which were already being sold and shipped to countries even before their rushed study (Pfizer's in this case, which lacked for full research into effectiveness on age, ethnicity, etc.) was ever peer reviewed.

You can keep bringing this back to flu vaccines but it's entirely different and you can't deny any of this.

Herd immunity. It's a thing. [...] We're talking about the poster who had immunocompromised friends.

Refer back to what I edited about seat belts just up the page:

EDIT: By his rationale of "You should get vaccinated to protect your friends who are at a higher risk" I could make the argument that in order to protect the driver of a vehicle (someone at risk) from suffering the effects of a car crash, the passenger of a vehicle (someone of similar risk) or even an unrelated jogger (someone not at risk) should wear seat belts.
You gotta wear your seat belt if you want to protect someone else who's not wearing their seat belt.
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[AnOminous]

Which argument are you saying is that dumb, his or mine?

Your dumbass argument that because of shit with absolutely astronomical odds against it happening, you should avoid a vaccine, when the known and common effects of the disease it prevents include permanent lung damage, possibly requiring lifelong treatment, and up to death. As much as death is unlikely for most people, the actual effects of the disease are orders of magnitude worse. You're more likely to crash your car and die on the way to the vaccination than have any serious ill effects from it.

Just pure dumbness.

No flu vaccine was developed, produced and put into mass order vaccination in less than a year, using experimental technology which was studied in a niche scientific field for a decade (Moderna did it for a decade and had never produced anything for the market until Covid) before suddenly being used to produce a vaccine for the first time--vaccines which were already being sold and shipped to countries even before their rushed study (Pfizer's in this case, which lacked for full research into effectiveness on age, ethnicity, etc.) was ever peer reviewed.

That's idiotic. Every flu vaccine is specifically tailored for that year's prevalent strain. No two are the same.

 

[Vulva Gape]

As for what's "not clicking", how about the span of time spent testing and developing flu vaccines under scrutiny vs the span of time pushing out Covid vaccines under emergency measures and a suddenly burgeoning market profit?

Sure, go ahead and change the topic.

Efficacy of covid vax is considerably higher than the efficacy of the average flu vaccine. That is a fact. You made these statements:

The vaccine not being 100% doesn't make sense to me either.

The point is you're highly unlikely to get the flu if you are vaccinated, whereas you're still likely to be a carrier and get sick from Covid if you get vaccinated.

Go be anti-vax, just don't be peddling nonsense.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I haven't got the jab because I'm scared of it. But I'm honest and don't wrap it up in a bunch of faggotry.

I haven't gotten the jab because I just don't fucking care.

 

[Thomas Highway]

I haven't gotten the jab because I just don't fucking care.

 

[X Pac Heat]

I only take part in medical trials if I get paid.

 

[EyelessMC]

Your dumbass argument that because of shit with absolutely astronomical odds against it happening, you should avoid a vaccine

That's not the crux of my argument and you're intelligent enough and read enough of the thread to know that. Stop pretending to be stupid.

As much as death is unlikely for most people, the actual effects of the disease are orders of magnitude worse.

I never said the virus wasn't dangerous as a virus. If I did then show me where I did and I'll take the hit for that. Otherwise I only ever said it wasn't the Black Death, specifically because it's not, particularly in death toll. Did you even read my response to your info on pandemics?

You're more likely to crash your car and die on the way to the vaccination than have any serious ill effects from it.

So? You're less likely to get blot clots and brain damage or death by not getting the vaccine and simply practicing the same health awareness you did when the vaccine wasn't around. These are non arguments. We're discussing the concern for the vaccine and the risks involved as well as the background and experimental nature of the vaccines themselves.
We know more about the virus than the vaccines. That is a fact, both from the CDC itself and otherwise. Just read the link in the post I replied to above you.

That's idiotic. Every flu vaccine is specifically tailored for that year's prevalent strain. No two are the same.

And those vaccines are developed using technology and methods which have been tested rigorously--and aren't experimental or rushed--for decades. The flu vaccine is time-tested. The Covid vaccine is literally totally different in every way other than it being administered via syringe. The video I posted even from the CEO of Moderna himself says as much.
Again, stop pretending to be stupid. You know what I am saying.

Sure, go ahead and change the topic.

That's literally been the major focus of my posts from the start: the risks of the vaccine, the way it was developed, the experimental nature of it and the profiteering background of it. Every single post I've made has been about this. I never changed the topic and have been consistent the entire time.

Efficacy of covid vax is considerably higher than the efficacy of the average flu vaccine.

The Covid vax hasn't been as fully tested as the flu vax. You're making this retarded argument off of what we currently know barely a year out from the vaccine's rushed development and distribution.

You made these statements:

Which I thoroughly explained in the very post you're replying to.

Go be anti-vax

And here we go again...
Because anti-vax people defend flu vaccination, right?

 

[Vulva Gape]

That's not the crux of my argument and you're intelligent enough and read enough of the thread to know that. Stop pretending to be stupid.

I never said the virus wasn't dangerous as a virus. If I did then show me where I did and I'll take the hit for that. Otherwise I only ever said it wasn't the Black Death, specifically because it's not, particularly in death toll. Did you even read my response to your info on pandemics?

So? You're less likely to get blot clots and brain damage or death by not getting the vaccine and simply practicing the same health awareness you did when the vaccine wasn't around. These are non arguments. We're discussing the concern for the vaccine and the risks involved as well as the background and experimental nature of the vaccines themselves.
We know more about the virus than the vaccines. That is a fact, both from the CDC itself and otherwise. Just read the link in the post I replied to above you.

And those vaccines are developed using technology and methods which have been tested rigorously--and aren't experimental or rushed--for decades. The flu vaccine is time-tested. The Covid vaccine is literally totally different in every way other than it being administered via syringe. The video I posted even from the CEO of Moderna himself says as much.
Again, stop pretending to be stupid. You know what I am saying.


That's literally been the major focus of my posts from the start: the risks of the vaccine, the way it was developed, the experimental nature of it and the profiteering background of it. Every single post I've made has been about this. I never changed the topic and have been consistent the entire time.

The Covid vax hasn't been as fully tested as the flu vax. You're making this retarded argument off of what we currently know barely a year out from the vaccine's rushed development and distribution.

Which I thoroughly explained in the very post you're replying to.

And here we go again...
Because anti-vax people defend flu vaccination, right?

Lol calm down

 

[EyelessMC]

Lol calm down

And that, dear Kiwis, is how we masterfully concede the entire argument.

 

[Plank]

And that, dear Kiwis, is how we masterfully concede the entire argument.

You can't really blame the dimwit.

Just imagine that you are dumb enough to get your news from cable tv and they convinced you to tattoo FAGGOT on your forehead.

And then you start to realize it was only you that was fucking stupid enough to actually do it.

You would be absolutely DESPERATE to convince everyone else to do the same just like covidclowns like Vulva Gape are.

I just came home from a PACKED bar and restaurant. No silly face diapers. No idiots checking for PalsyJabs. Just normal people going about our lives. It has been this way for months.

So, yes, you covidclowns look like a bunch of fucking morons.

Screech and yell.
Rip your hair out.
Foam at the mouth in apoplectic rage.

DON'T. FUCKING. CARE.

You are stupid enough to let a nothingburger of a virus become a fucking partisan issue in your tiny pea brains.

And on a final note. The crazy 'I get my misinformation/fear porn from cable news' lady in the neighborhood who has been literally scrambling for her life clutching her face diaper away from people whenever anyone got within twenty feeet for the past year. Even that crazy bitch has given up her silly and pointless face diaper and is standing around talking to people like a normal fucking person finally.

Getting off the covid retard train is like ripping a bandaid off. You are going to have to do it at some point. Yes it is going to be painful when everyone laughs at what a fucking retard you have been for the past year like Vulva Gape. But you are going to have to bite the bullet and stop acting like a fucking retard at some point. Sooner is better than later.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Valid argument in your first paragraph. Appeals to morality are a common form of rhetoric but I personally think most people warn against the COVID vaccines or any vaccine really because they care about other people's well-being. You ruin your first paragraph's argument by the "old people die" thing which is kind of funny but basically just a meme at this point. You could apply that to anything because everyone is going to die from something but why should an old person have to leave the world in such a shitty way like COVID infection when it can be prevented?

Oh please. Everything you do carries a calculated risk with it. You're a heartless horrible murderer if you do anything outside a hazmat suit. You might butterfly effect a virus into someone and they'll die someday. That's what I mean by "old people die". Lefties jump to pathos because they're opportunistic sociopaths who see an effective tactic and take it, not because they have some fart-sniffing heightened capacity for empathy. I have old relatives who are afraid of the 'rona. I have old relatives who aren't. I've visited the latter with no diaper on my face, and no diaper on theirs. I'm fine. They're fine. Nobody I know has died or been sick. This virus has posed zero risk to anyone I know.

What I *do* know is people whose financial security has been ruined by this Covid Karening, but Covid Karens have never given a single solitary shit about making millions of people live potential decades in lower quality of life in exchange for making sure a few people don't die of Covid sooner. I'm done with the goalpost-moving. I'm not doing a single thing to humor this nonsense any longer. My actions are dictated by my risk calculation, and smug authoritarian lefties bossing me around to satisfy their swollen munchie amygdalae can eat a dick. This is a cold. The death rate is orders of magnitude lower than the freakshows running these scams predicted. Perhaps my position would be different if this were a cause for celebration, but no. It's cause for more bossing, more finger-pointing, more screaming about DEAAAAAAAATH, and you're a MURDERER if you don't do what I order you to now now now, and maybe I'll give you your freedoms back if I like what I see but don't get too hopeful.

Fuck off with this face diaper and lockdown shit first, maybe we'll talk then. You fucks don't want this "new normal" gone, it feeds your enormous bloated egotistical power tripping too much.

 

[Logical Fallacies]

People who want to pretend that CoVid is a nothing burger or who don't want the Vaccine are far more afraid of this bug than people who watch mainstream media and get the vaccine.

It's ok to be afraid. Just don't pretend you have some super good reason for denying and avoiding shit.

I was having a panic attacks for hours after getting the vaccine because I was so scared of what it might do. However, in the end I am more scared of getting CoVid.

 

[AnOminous]

I haven't gotten the jab because I just don't fucking care.

Even if you're trolling that's still a more intellectually honest argument I've seen from any of these idiots.