Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[AnOminous]

And always, always do your research--not to prove your worldview but to test it--otherwise you'll be liable to think Covid eats your balls and the vaccines are the body of Christ.

It's Mr. T who eats your balls.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

It's gonna be great to tell some roastie to stfu when they say "my body, my choice" as I vote for more restrictive abortion laws.

Turns out bodily autonomy is no more.

 

[EyelessMC]

It's gonna be great to tell some roastie to stfu when they say "my body, my choice" as I vote for more restrictive abortion laws.

Turns out bodily autonomy is no more.

For reference

 

[Vulva Gape]

Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believe​

Widely circulating coronavirus variants and persistent hesitancy about vaccines will keep the goal out of reach. The virus is here to stay, but vaccinating the most vulnerable may be enough to restore normalcy. (link)

This is what the proliferation of these narratives has done. I'm not usually a fascist but there needs to be a solution for this, like shipping them off to anti vax land where they can create new ebola aids and all kill each other without making the rest of us suffer.

 

[Thomas Highway]

@EyelessMC You legit sound like a crazy person. Spending all this time "debunking" people making fun of you on a tism forum. At least go join the LaRouchies and do it in public outside post offices.

 

[EyelessMC]

This is what the proliferation of these narratives has done. I'm not usually a fascist but there needs to be a solution for this, like shipping them off to anti vax land where they can create new ebola aids and all kill each other without making the rest of us suffer.

Uber-vax people, everyone. Looking at his post history in this thread, particularly his exchanges with me regarding the flu vax vs Covid vax, makes for good reading. Uber-vaxxers...

@EyelessMC You legit sound like a crazy person. Spending all this time "debunking" people making fun of you on a tism forum. At least go join the LaRouchies and do it in public outside post offices.

"Making fun of you" Right, because the post directly above yours is just mockery and satire, not a show of the kind of retardation I've been dealing with this entire time from numerous posters. People haven't been pretending to be retarded. They really are this way, and if you don't want to acknowledge it then it says a lot.

Anyway, might as well compile everything into a single post for future reference before I duck out. I never left.
At least that way when we're all having this same argument in a year's time I can just provide a single link instead of several.

Spoiler: My point and main argument

Concern against or about the Covid vaccines and the background information about them is valid and not just the babbling of vaccine abolitionists (anti-vax) or scare mongers.

Spoiler: My "crazy" posts and info: Details about mRNA vaccines, Covid19 & Vaccines' potential effect on Reproduction, etc.

Spoiler: VIDEOS: Re-posting relevant videos of Financial Times Doc edit & Former CEO of Pfizer Dr. Mike Yeadon's Warning

Second video Credit to @knobslobbin

Also here's the Nobel Prize Winner inventor of the PCR test talking about how Dr. Fauci is a retard that's scared to debate him:

Edit # REDUX: SPIKE PROTEIN STUDY, VASCULAR DISEASE & VACCINES
Also: CDC Investigation into "dozens" of reports of "heart inflammation" in vaccinated teens

SARS-CoV-2's S protein (Spike protein) causes cellular damage even on its own (without virus), published scientific study proves. This also proves Covid-19 is a "vascular disease". Note that all four covid vaccine brands cause the vaccinated patient's body's cells to "express" the spike proteins which the aforementioned study proved was alone capable of causing vascular damage and related events (such as blood clots). Even without the virus the S protein can cause severe damage.
HERE is a quicker, simple post with info. Full breakdown and Archived links can be found here.
Credit to @Oliveoil who also posted about the Connecticut govt. on the same page. Credit to @Devyn for posting the news article ( Archive )
UPDATE (5.26.2021) CDC's VaST advisory committee put out preliminary report on the potential adverse reaction of myocarditis from vaccination in teenagers and adolescents. Post detailing it is here. No mention of the Spike protein or any potential correlation.


EDIT 1: PFIZER NIGERIAN LAWSUIT Pfizer settled out of court for £50 Million for killing 11 children, causing organ failure, brain damage to many more in Nigeria with experimental antibiotics.
https://archive.md/TMkg5

The US-based company sent a team of its doctors into the Nigerian slum city of Kano in the midst of an appaling meningitis epidemic to perform what it calls a "humanitarian mission". However the accusers claim it was an unlicensed medical trial on critically-ill children.

A team of Pfizer doctors reached the Nigerian camp just as the outbreak, which killed at least 11,000 people, was peaking. They set themselves up within metres of a medical station run by the aid group Médecins Sans Frontières, which was dispensing proven treatments to ease the epidemic.

From the crowd that had gathered at the Kano Infectious Diseases Hospital, 200 sick children were picked. Half were given doses of the experimental Pfizer drug called Trovan and the others were treated with a proven antibiotic from a rival company.

Eleven of the children died and many more, it is alleged, later suffered serious side-effects ranging from organ failure to brain damage. But with meningitis, cholera and measles still raging and crowds still queueing at the fence of the camp, the Pfizer team packed up after two weeks and left.

That would probably have been an end to the story if it weren't for Pfizer employee, Juan Walterspiel. About 18 months after the medical trial he wrote a letter to the then chief executive of the company, William Steere, saying that the trial had "violated ethical rules". Mr Walterspiel was fired a day later for reasons "unrelated" to the letter, insists Pfizer.
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At stake at one point last year was more than $8bn in punitive damages being sought in a string of cases, as well as potential jail terms in Nigeria for several Pfizer staff.
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Trovan never became the blockbuster that Pfizer had hoped for and it is no longer in production. The EU has banned the drug and it has been withdrawn from sale in the US.

Credit to @Lawrence of Algeria

EDIT 2: UNIQUE INDEMNIFICATION

Covid vaccine: You can't sue Pfizer or Moderna over side effects

archived 5 May 2021 01:34:21 UTC

archive.is

“It is very rare for a blanket immunity law to be passed,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney. “Pharmaceutical companies typically aren’t offered much liability protection under the law.“

You also can’t sue the Food and Drug Administration for authorizing a vaccine for emergency use, nor can you hold your employer accountable if they mandate inoculation as a condition of employment.
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In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024. That means that for the next four years, these companies “cannot be sued for money damages in court” over injuries related to the administration or use of products to treat or protect against Covid.

“When the government said, ‘We want you to develop this four or five times faster than you normally do,’ most likely the manufacturers said to the government, ‘We want you, the government, to protect us from multimillion-dollar lawsuits,’” said Dunn.
“The government doesn’t want people suing the companies making the Covid vaccine. Because then, the manufacturers would probably charge the government a higher price per person per dose,” Dunn explained.

Remember, vaccine manufacturers aren’t the ones approving their product for mass distribution. That is the job of the FDA.
Which begs the question, can you sue the U.S. government if you have an extraordinarily bad reaction to a vaccine?
“You can’t sue the FDA for approving or disapproving a drug,” said Dorit Reiss, a professor at the University of California Hastings College of Law. “That’s part of its sovereign immunity.”

Wow, expressing this as it actually is sounds super fucking sketchy, doesn't it?

Edit 3:NACI RECOMMENDATION

Credit to @Sweet Yuzu post regarding Canada's NACI (highest authority on vaccines) giving their recommendation about the Astra Zeneca vax and Twitter mobs calling them all "anti-vax" for it.

Spoiler: Sweet Yuzu's post & the article with excerpts

So there's a little media/twitter tard fight going on in Canada RN. The country's highest authority on vaccines stated they do not recommend the Astra Zeneca vaccine to young people under 30, especially ones who don't go out much and live in provinces like those in Atlantic Canada who aren't as hard hit because the risk of the clots is actually higher than dying of COVID in that age group.
This caused some I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE people to tard rage on twitter and call our country's vaccine authority "anti-vaxers" who are "spreading disinformation". All they did was issue a nuanced recommendation that takes into account different demographics and risks.
Justin Trudeau got the Astra Zeneca vaccine and is telling people to get the first vaccine available to them. This article is all about this shitshow and I think it's pretty well balanced even though the National Post is known for conservative bullshit:

NACI is right about AstraZeneca. It shouldn’t be 'unsettling' to trust the public with uncomfortable information

Analysis: Despite repeated calls to 'listen to the science,' politicians are now openly telling Canadians to ignore one of our most unbiased scientific bodies

nationalpost.com

https://archive.md/wip/JSpvv

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LOL @ Dominic Cardy talking about science like a religion.

Edit 4: The Problem of Current Vaccines Needing Even More R&D Against SARS-CoV-2 variants

Archived WebMD article: https://archive.md/dXNn3

Spoiler: TL;DR

The 15-16 different variants of Covid which are currently understood or being investigated. Four (4) of them are "moderately" able to evade current vaccines (5/8/21) and potentially more. Potentially meaning anyone vaccinated "today" with the current vax would need to be vaccinated as soon as the superior and more effective vax comes along. Most noteably the P.1 and B.1.351 variants which each make the mRNA vaccines 4-7 and 6-8 fold less effective respectively. As of this article (March 30, 2021), Pfizer is testing to see if just getting a third shot of the initial two-shot vaccine would help (more jabs, more strength?) but is also working on reformulating their vaccine to be more effective across the board, as is Moderna, Novavax, etc.

Of the three "variants of concern" recognized by the World Health Organization and the CDC, studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines created by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, as well as the Novavax vaccine, remain highly effective against the B.1.1.7 variant, which was first recognized in the United Kingdom.
The mRNA vaccines are 4- to 7-fold less effective against the P.1 variant, which was first discovered in Brazil, but they still appear to be within an important "cushion of protection," particularly after two doses, and should prevent disease, according to Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

The B.1.351 variant is more troublesome. Studies have shown that the AstraZeneca vaccine was 86 times less effective against this variant, which was first detected in South Africa. The mRNA vaccines are 6- to 8-fold less effective against this variant, suggesting a significant waning of protection. In clinical trials in South Africa, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine also was less effective where this variant was surging.

EDIT 5: SILICON VALLEY & VACCINE PASSPORTS

Archives https://archive.md/pFeeA (another article from April 2021: https://archive.md/UrI2w )
Tech industry giants of Silicon Valley like Microsoft are being deeply involved in the digitization of vaccine passports so their use (and necessity) can be part of everyday life. Other companies are eager for a centralized service of your medical information regarding test results and vaccine record so that you can show it like a QR code, with enough details that someone could see what kind of vaccine you got. All of this is pushed as part of a "necessity" for public health, so we can ride airplanes, go back to school, back to work, etc.

Spoiler: Highlights

Edit 6: As of 5/13/2021, the rule from the President's own mouth is "Get vaccinated or wear a mask. It's vax-ed or masked."

Spoiler: Presidential Announcement Speech

Edit 7: COVID19 WUHAN LAB THEORY IS VIABLE
There continues to be reputable and international calls for transparency and investigation into the "viable" theory that Covid originated from the Wuhan lab (and a confrontation about "gain of function research" (ie experimenting and strengthening viruses)
Archives: https://archive.md/KMecB https://archive.md/MHFb3 https://archive.md/rksIA

Spoiler: Article Excerpts & Video of Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci

Credit to @sperginity for an informative post relating to this, and credit also to @Bad Take Crucifier for an update on Dr. Li-Meng Yan, one of the first major scientists to speak out about this subject and who underwent massive widespread censorship and apparently the CCP arrested her mother over it (as the CCP is wont to do)

Edit 8: CDC WARNS OF "IMPENDING DOOM" IN MARCH "as Covid Cases Spike"--THEN SAYS OTHERWISE BY MAY

https://archive.md/YEMRo https://archive.md/gzyUW Also FDA gave Emergency Approval to mRNA vaccinate kids as young as 12yrs old.
Credit to @ShortBusDriver

EDIT 9: CDC USED DATA FROM SINGAPORE TO EXAGGERATE OUTDOOR COVID TRANSMISSION RISK -- MASKS MORE EFFECTIVE INDOORS (OR IN CROWDS)

A Misleading C.D.C. Number - The New York Times

archived 13 May 2021 00:25:42 UTC

archive.is

Spoiler: Article Excerpts

EDIT 10: "Vaccine Hesitancy" pushed by Silicon Valley, Facebook algorithm targets vax concern
Especially posts sharing videos, articles or scientific studies detailing side effects or deaths. It's uber-vax mentality in Silicon Valley with social media.

Spoiler: 6min Video on Facebook's "Vaccine Hesitancy" Algorithm

 

[Vulva Gape]

Uber-vax people, everyone. Looking at his post history in this thread, particularly his exchanges with me regarding the flu vax vs Covid vax, makes for good reading.
Uber-vaxxers...


"Making fun of you" Right, because the post directly above yours is just mockery and satire, not a show of the kind of retardation I've been dealing with this entire time from numerous posters. People haven't been pretending to be retarded. They really are this way, and if you don't want to acknowledge it then it says a lot.

Anyway, might as well compile everything into a single post for future reference before I duck out. At least that way when we're all having this same argument in a year's time I can just provide a single link instead of several.

Spoiler: My point and main argument

Concern against or about the Covid vaccines and the background information about them is valid and not just the babbling of vaccine abolitionists (anti-vax) or scare mongers.

Spoiler: My "crazy" posts and info

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Spoiler: Re-posting relevant videos

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And if the pic is too wordy and the videos too problematic you can always just click one page back and see everything for yourself.

Nobodys reading this shit buddy. Go to bed.

 

[UnKillFill]

I know you're a right-wing...

6 words in and you've already proven your opinion to be invalid. I'm sorry 'brother', but just because I don't blindly suck big government and big pharma dick like you do, doesn't make me "right wing". Get a better opinion faggot.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

For reference
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Oy vey

 

[RussianParasite]

Do you seriously think the mainstream media isn't intent on "fooling" people in countless ways? Are you serious?

Who is the “mainstream media”retard? China Daily, CNN, FOX, Reuters, Pravda, whatever the hell Iran and India have? They all have competing interests and aren’t controlled by the same people. You seriously need to leave your trailer park and realize that the world is nearly impossible to be controlled by one group.

Cope and seethe that you aren’t as smart as you think you are.

 

[All Cops Are Based]

Who is the “mainstream media”retard? China Daily, CNN, FOX, Reuters, Pravda, whatever the hell Iran and India have? They all have competing interests and aren’t controlled by the same people. You seriously need to leave your trailer park and realize that the world is nearly impossible to be controlled by one group.

Cope and seethe that you aren’t as smart as you think you are.

"the media doesn't have our best interests in mind"

"AKSHUUALLY, the media is comprised of different groups of people who don't have our best interests in mind, and who are self-interested in different & contrasting ways. haha I bet you're feeling silly for distrusting the media now you un-worldly probably working class chud"

reddit moment

 

[Really Makes You Think]

I genuinely don't understand how people can rationalize getting jabbed with some vaccine that was fast tracked through. You're genuinely asking for cancer-aids in a few years, because doctors have zero clue what the fuck is going to occur to the people who took it.

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

I genuinely don't understand how people can rationalize getting jabbed with some vaccine that was fast tracked through. You're genuinely asking for cancer-aids in a few years, because doctors have zero clue what the fuck is going to occur to the people who took it.

How they rationalize it? Simple:

They blindly trust anyone with the Doctor title. Anyone who dares be skeptical is a tinfoil hat wearing anti-vaxxer.

As I said earlier in the thread Pfizer killed a bunch of kids with some experimnetal antibiotic, the whole affair was shady as fuck. But I'm sure they've changed their ways and go the extra step to ensure your safety.
And again, I'm not saying they chip you (lol), or intentionally poison you. They just care about money, and only money. As long as they profit, and the jab doesn't make you drop dead in the street (which could harm profits) it's good enough. Companies don't give a flying fuck about people.

 

[0x00000C1A]

They blindly trust anyone with the Doctor title

That's the biggest issue in the west imo. Meanwhile in third world shitholes like Ukraine/Russia/Belarus the local population doesn't trust them one bit.

I am personally very gracious of my doctor though, since he made me vaccinated only on paper around 15 euros, or around 3 big mac menus in freedom currency.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

This is what the proliferation of these narratives has done. I'm not usually a fascist but there needs to be a solution for this, like shipping them off to anti vax land where they can create new ebola aids and all kill each other without making the rest of us suffer.

Because viruses apparently get more deadly with time.
You say retarded shit like this, yet I'm supposedly the science denier.

I genuinely don't understand how people can rationalize getting jabbed with some vaccine that was fast tracked through. You're genuinely asking for cancer-aids in a few years, because doctors have zero clue what the fuck is going to occur to the people who took it.

I mean if your actually at risk of dying from COVID then any side effects of the vax outweigh the risk.
If I got tagged by a fucking African Twig snake, I'd risk some experimental antivenom over the near 50% chance of hemotoxic death.

But if you're not actually at risk, then I guess its just brainwashing/herd mentality to seduce types who want to "live in a society"...

 

[Justtocheck]

"The virus kills 0,1% of patients. It's a nothingburger. Deaths are all statistical manipulations"

"The vaccine will surely kill you and leave you handicapped and retard."

Love anti-vaxx logic though.

That's the biggest issue in the west imo. Meanwhile in third world shitholes like Ukraine/Russia/Belarus the local population doesn't trust them one bit.

I am personally very gracious of my doctor though, since he made me vaccinated only on paper around 15 euros, or around 3 big mac menus in freedom currency.

Fuck you. I don't even care about the virus or vaccine at this point. Rubberstamping your medical certificates will fuck us all in the end, when people won't trust vax cards anymore and more delays will happen because of you retards. You fucking moron. I unironically hope you catch covid and never regain your pulmonary capacity after a dance with the ventilators.

 

[0x00000C1A]

when people won't trust vax cards anymore

third world shitholes like Ukraine/Russia/Belarus the local population doesn't trust them one bit.

Are you in rage right now by chance?
And no - this is not the reason for distrust in doctors in post-soviet states.

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

"The virus kills 0,1% of patients. It's a nothingburger. Deaths are all statistical manipulations"

"The vaccine will surely kill you and leave you handicapped and retard."

Love anti-vaxx logic though.


Fuck you. I don't even care about the virus or vaccine at this point. Rubberstamping your medical certificates will fuck us all in the end, when people won't trust vax cards anymore and more delays will happen because of you retards. You fucking moron. I unironically hope you catch covid and never regain your pulmonary capacity after a dance with the ventilators.

Are you "coping"? Perhaps "seething", or even "dilating"?

never regain your pulmonary capacity after a dance with the ventilators.

You mean "stay home for a few days with a few mild symptoms", or even be completely asymptomatic?

For fuck's sake, my grandparents had this oh-so-deadly disease and guess what? They're fine. If someone dies from this he pretty much was on his way out already.

"The virus kills 0,1% of patients. It's a nothingburger. Deaths are all statistical manipulations"

"The vaccine will surely kill you and leave you handicapped and retard."

Love anti-vaxx logic though.

Are the anti-vaxxers in room with us right now?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I unironically hope you catch covid

Pro-Tip: Don't threaten people with a supposed apocalypse they already found to be nothing

 

[Willow grace]

It actually isn’t approved by the FDA. None of the vaccines are. It was approved for emergency use. That’s a huge difference.