Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Thomas Highway]

Yeah, on your part.

It'll all work out bro. Things will be fine.

 

[A Gay Retard]

This is my favorite thread. I'd start rating people MATI but I don't want to wear out the left click on my mouse.

I wonder if all our research and data-loving kiwis know that browbeating, scolding, and even aggressively attempting to educate and present real facts re: vaccines has been demonstrated to make anti-vaxxers and even the vaccine-hesitant dig their heels in harder.

 

[FEETLOAF]

It'll all work out bro. Things will be fine.

Noticing you still can't say what these "conspiracies" of Trump's even are, let alone where he said them.
It's almost like it's just something you made up...

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

Come on guys, this isn't the TDS thread.

 

[Thomas Highway]

This is my favorite thread. I'd start rating people MATI but I don't want to wear out the left click on my mouse.

I wonder if all our research and data-loving kiwis know that browbeating, scolding, and even aggressively attempting to educate and present real facts re: vaccines has been demonstrated to make anti-vaxxers and even the vaccine-hesitant dig their heels in harder.

Won't make me get the jab. Need at least another decade of R&D before I can trust it.

Edit: there seems to be a serious disconnect between skepticism of the jab, covid overreactions, masks etc and not being a lunatic.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Maybe not always but the new variants of COVID seem to be able to get into cells better and transmit more easily so they are going to win over variants without those advantages. It's simple Darwinism.

Yes, because they are more transmissible.
Transmissible =/= deadly. In fact, its usually the opposite where viruses evolve to become less lethal over time (because killing your host isn't a winning strategy).

Lefties gonna left.

To be fair, if you have been following the Wuhan Coronavirus thread, there have been some alt-right/wignat doomers convinced that the "made-in-china" virus is a plot to sterilize us and make all the white kids into retards.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

people who think face fabric 24/7 will protect against viral droplets which, from the onset of the pandemic, were proven to be barely effective at all.

One of the evidences that Twatter rules the world. Twatter karens wouldn't accept anything less than MASK PANIC LOCKDOWNS UNTIL NOT A SINGLE CASE APPEARS and everyone is more concerned about the optics of going against the twatterati.

 

[EyelessMC]

I wonder if all our research and data-loving kiwis know that browbeating, scolding, and even aggressively attempting to educate and present real facts re: vaccines has been demonstrated to make anti-vaxxers and even the vaccine-hesitant dig their heels in harder.

The problem is the supposed "anti-vaxxers" are the ones predominantly providing the research. Otherwise it's just opinions, hot takes and bickering either way.

One of the evidences that Twatter rules the world. Twatter karens wouldn't accept anything less than MASK PANIC LOCKDOWNS UNTIL NOT A SINGLE CASE APPEARS and everyone is more concerned about the optics of going against the twatterati.

I still hate the "Karen" label as an insult but after all this time seeing it most vocally coming from older White women... It kinda sticks.

 

[RussianParasite]

"the media doesn't have our best interests in mind"

"AKSHUUALLY, the media is comprised of different groups of people who don't have our best interests in mind, and who are self-interested in different & contrasting ways. haha I bet you're feeling silly for distrusting the media now you un-worldly probably working class chud"

reddit moment

Hm. It seems an awful lot like not having an actual argument and getting MATI is a Reddit thing to do, my dear Reddit account holder. Are you going to accuse me of being a meanie racist and transphobe next?

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

This thread is proof that vaccines cause autism.

 

[Thomas Highway]

The problem is the supposed "anti-vaxxers" are the ones predominantly providing the research. Otherwise it's just opinions, hot takes and bickering either way.


I still hate the "Karen" label as an insult but after all this time seeing it most vocally coming from older White women... It kinda sticks.

Its difficult these days. One used to be able to point to Wakefield and say "see, not trusting vaccines is retarded."

Not sure it is that simple these days. But I hope you understand that those providing research against the covid jab come across as a bit unhinged and weirdly motivated.

With all that said, this is probably your first post I can agree with. See, bridges can be built.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Don't bring the CCP into a discussion about approval ratings. That's going to undercut your point for anyone who knows anything about China.

you also left out Putin and Orban, arguably even Duda, as they largely control state media apparatuses. The CCP has metrics regarding approval rating of the regime and it is possible to gain a feel for frustration with it - you measure it by proxy and through questionnaires that anonymously poll individuals with questions like "how do you approve of your country's handling of the pandemic, 1-5" etc conducted by non-chinese NGOs and journalists - same for the other state-run media states

face fabric 24/7 will protect against viral droplets which, from the onset of the pandemic, were proven to be barely effective at all.

until they realized the virus could get in your eyes and how it's basically impossible to not touch your face.

a decent number of them have surgical filters embedded in their construction, but even besides that the point of mask-wearing more broadly is to encourage mindfulness and keeping distance. In essence, a business or local government mandates the use in enclosed space less because of its sheer efficacy (which is why you can take it off when you're seated in a restaurant, defeating the purpose) and more as a signal that you aren't going to be a retard and cough in someone's face while defending pederasty or something stupid like that

There are plenty of places that don't give a shit if you're not wearing a mask and plenty of others that do. The complaint isn't "my life is being significantly damaged by this ineffective requirement," it is "I cannot believe I'm being moderately inconvenienced" - trying to tie masking up at walmart to broader economic lockdowns, for which there's a lot more real damage and are as such a lot less overtly political, doesn't happen anywhere but here

So he refused to let an unelected corporation track party members

do you understand what contact tracing is and also how is the cdc a corporation? let me get you up to speed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention

he didn't make public statements about whether or not he got tested.

well i mean there's also the other things in that excerpt alone, like how he contradicted the cdc's statements about public gatherings, about contact tracing and getting tested if you believe you have come into contact with someone who had the disease. there's plenty more outlined in the article itself, like how he kept not only recommending a malarial treatment for the pandemic, but suggested his own administration was in the wrong for not full-bodily recommending it.

Come on guys, this isn't the TDS thread.

this thread is for shitposting

 

[Dude Snakes]

Dude, the lefties already have that covered. They just use the government and looter mobs to bitch private businesses into enforcing their will, then throw up their hands and go It'S PrIvaTE BusINEssES doInG It, we don't know what you're talking about!

Yes I am aware of that, The Great Reset is all about the fusion of corperations and the gov't text-book facism. The vaccines are the second part which is Agenda 21. Those that have the shots will be get very sick (like the poor souls in India now) when exposed to covid. The shots are actually weakening people's immune system to covid, people are having cytokin storms, immune system going beserk. Big Pharma and the Bloodline familes that run the world from behind the scenes are going to be destroyed, the amount of death and disabilites caused by these "vaccines" will enrage the masses and lead to revolutions around the world.

 

[Thomas Highway]

Yes I am aware of that, The Great Reset is all about the fusion of corperations and the gov't text-book facism. The vaccines are the second part which is Agenda 21. Those that have the shots will be get very sick (like the poor souls in India now) when exposed to covid. The shots are actually weakening people's immune system to covid, people are having cytokin storms, immune system going beserk. Big Pharma and the Bloodline familes that run the world from behind the scenes are going to be destroyed, the amount of death and disabilites caused by these "vaccines" will enrage the masses and lead to revolutions around the world.

holy shit lol

 

[RussianParasite]

holy shit lol

I love it. Don’t knock this Kiwi’s views. This is enlightenment.

 

[Thomas Highway]

I love it. Don’t knock this Kiwi’s views. This is enlightenment.

We must be tolerant conservatives. I'm sorry Mr. Weed.

 

[Figger Naggot]

Yes I am aware of that, The Great Reset is all about the fusion of corperations and the gov't text-book facism. The vaccines are the second part which is Agenda 21. Those that have the shots will be get very sick (like the poor souls in India now) when exposed to covid. The shots are actually weakening people's immune system to covid, people are having cytokin storms, immune system going beserk. Big Pharma and the Bloodline familes that run the world from behind the scenes are going to be destroyed, the amount of death and disabilites caused by these "vaccines" will enrage the masses and lead to revolutions around the world.

please go outside

 

[EyelessMC]

Edit: there seems to be a serious disconnect between skepticism of the jab, covid overreactions, masks etc and not being a lunatic.

Its difficult these days. One used to be able to point to Wakefield and say "see, not trusting vaccines is retarded."

Not sure it is that simple these days. But I hope you understand that those providing research against the covid jab come across as a bit unhinged and weirdly motivated.

With all that said, this is probably your first post I can agree with. See, bridges can be built.

You should have realized that before jumping on a bandwagon instead of lurking from the start. I didn't come into this thread screaming about the Illuminati or Trump or whatever. From the start I've only been espousing (initially with some glib humor) that there are legitimate reasons why people would be wary of, concerned about or even against the current Covid vaccines as they are.
You can see that clearly from me and other posters right here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/are-you-getting-the-vaccine.84995/page-58#post-8929354

Never was against vaccines in general (again, I defended the flu vaccine and got called anti-vax for it). Never made this political. I let people prove me wrong wherever I was wrong, remind me of stuff I forgot and I didn't keep hollarring that anyone getting the vaccine is a moron--only that those who are uber-vaxxers/Karens, or those who kept saying that being concerned about the mRNA vaccines is stupid, are themselves morons.
I even openly said that there are rational, non retarded reasons why someone would want to get the Covid vax and think it's the smarter decision for themselves. I only wanted to make the case that there's reasons to be concerned as well, so with all the information in-hand people can make their own decisions.

The same people claiming those concerned about the mRNA vaccines are schizophrenic, Trumpserpgs, etc. are the ones talking about potentially being in favor of forced vaccination (not that I think the idiotic idea would happen that way) and just being generally confused jackasses. We've have people claim that mistrusting mainstream media is tinfoil hat, people saying you're crazy if you are worried about long-term effects of this very experimental vaccine tech and those saying it's nothing but right-wing conspiracy theories to simply reiterate information from Moderna CEO's own mouth regarding the massive, massive profits in store for the burgeoning market of these mRNA vaccines--and how the companies already hope to overtake the entire market with this new vaccine type, coupling Covid vax with Flu vax for profitability.

It was never my intention to be a dick or to attack anyone, and I only started doing so once certain people kept attacking me and posters like me, generally being disingenous faggots and outright ignoring all the very real factors as to why people would be concerned about the Covid vax.

"Concern about or against the Covid vax is valid and not just the ravings of nutters". That's been my point from the start.
I'd rather us have a fun discussion with shitposting retorts rather than all this asinine bickering. I didn't bring the latter, and most posters who were reasonable and aren't wholeheartedly pro-Covid vax didn't either.

 

[Thomas Highway]

You should have realized that before jumping on a bandwagon instead of lurking from the start. I didn't come into this thread screaming about the Illuminati or Trump or whatever. From the start I've only been espousing (initially with some glib humor) that there are legitimate reasons why people would be wary of, concerned about or even against the current Covid vaccines as they are.
You can see that clearly from me and other posters right here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/are-you-getting-the-vaccine.84995/page-58#post-8929354

Never was against vaccines in general (again, I defended the flu vaccine and got called anti-vax for it). Never made this political. I let people prove me wrong wherever I was wrong, remind me of stuff I forgot and I didn't keep hollarring that anyone getting the vaccine is a moron--only that those who are uber-vaxxers/Karens, or those who kept saying that being concerned about the mRNA vaccines is stupid, are themselves morons.
I even openly said that there are rational, non retarded reasons why someone would want to get the Covid vax and think it's the smarter decision for themselves. I only wanted to make the case that there's reasons to be concerned as well, so with all the information in-hand people can make their own decisions.

The same people claiming those concerned about the mRNA vaccines are schizophrenic, Trumpserpgs, etc. are the ones talking about potentially being in favor of forced vaccination (not that I think the idiotic idea would happen that way) and just being generally confused jackasses. We've have people claim that mistrusting mainstream media is tinfoil hat, people saying you're crazy if you are worried about long-term effects of this very experimental vaccine tech and those saying it's nothing but right-wing conspiracy theories to simply reiterate information from Moderna CEO's own mouth regarding the massive, massive profits in store for the burgeoning market of these mRNA vaccines--and how the companies already hope to overtake the entire market with this new vaccine type, coupling Covid vax with Flu vax for profitability.

It was never my intention to be a dick or to attack anyone, and I only started doing so once certain people kept attacking me and posters like me, generally being disingenous faggots and outright ignoring all the very real factors as to why people would be concerned about the Covid vax.

"Concern about or against the Covid vax is valid and not just the ravings of nutters". That's been my point from the start.
I'd rather us have a fun discussion with shitposting retorts rather than all this asinine bickering. I didn't bring the latter, and most posters who were reasonable and aren't wholeheartedly pro-Covid vax didn't either.

Its wild how you manage to squander any semblance of good will in a text wall of lunacy.

 

[EyelessMC]

Its wild how you manage to squander any semblance of good will in a text wall of lunacy.

Welp, these two posts back-to-back not only speak for themselves but basically summarize the entire thread.