Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Disheveled Human]

You will probably be fine for now but who knows what the long term effects will be?

Same can be said for contracting Covid-19.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Same can be said for contracting Covid-19.

Unless it's MERS or this virus is artificial, we should be fine. Otherwise, someone needs to be held responsible and this thing with vaccines looks like someone is desperately trying to avoid being held to account.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Unless it's MERS or this virus is artificial, we should be fine. Otherwise, someone needs to be held responsible and this thing with vaccines looks like someone is desperately trying to avoid being held to account.

Sounds like it would suck to be wrong about it.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Unless it's MERS or this virus is artificial, we should be fine. Otherwise, someone needs to be held responsible and this thing with vaccines looks like someone is desperately trying to avoid being held to account.

Even lasting effects from SARS-1 and MERS came from serious cases; not mild and asymptomatic cases.
Pretending like a Coronavirus can cause a lasting infection is like pretending a dog can photosynthesize.

 

[trent]

Got my second dose of Pfizer earlier today. Pretty much jut a sore arm again and the girl administering it said that because i had no side effects at all last time i probably wouldn't have any this time either.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

That's all he wants, this entire thread is a proof of that, he's here to troll. He's also here 24/7. Surprised mom hasn't cut off his internet yet

Says the guy tardraging because he is a spaz and fell for Russian anti-vax propaganda geared at gullible right-wingers

Even lasting effects from SARS-1 and MERS came from serious cases; not mild and asymptomatic cases.
Pretending like a Coronavirus can cause a lasting infection is like pretending a dog can photosynthesize.

Next time you google shit to make it sound like you're a real biologist, look up long haul covid

Try it and see what happens, you are quite the fascist. Anyone trying to jab me is going to receive that injection instead. Administering these injections is assault with a bioweapon, those that know may end up shooting dead those that try to force it on them. You are a coward too, you had your vaccine what do you have to fear? Are you that fat and sickly?

Look out guys, we got a total bad ass over here.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Next time you google shit to make it sound like you're a real biologist, look up long haul covid

Long haul covid? Did they get that name from the aviation and logistics industries? Long haul flights (6hr+) were pretty fun before airlines made you wear masks. It's pretty easy to barely wear to almost not wear masks on US domestics though. Guessing most FAs have had enough of the nonsense too despite the "federal rule."

 

[AnOminous]

I'm all for people getting the vaccine if they choose to, but in my europoor shithole the government is trying to FORCE it on people. They are planning to change laws, so employers can fire you over refusing the vaccine, they want to ban the unvaccinated from using public transport, etc.

In the U.S., employers can already fire you for any reason or no reason (with the obvious exceptions), including for a vaccination requirement. They might need to accommodate you if you have some actual medical condition covered under the Americans With Disabilities Act, but probably not even that if they have a real reason for the requirement, like you're working in healthcare.

The government itself isn't likely to directly force people to get it here, at least if you're not actually working for the government.

 

[whore loving dragon]

I was jabbed in february since I worked with medicine and I haven’t died yet. In fact I’ve seen no negative effects whatesoever.

It's the long term health effects that people should be wary of. Vaccines normally require a 15+ year period of study in order to be approved for mass deployment to humans.
And if they were truly confident that the COVID vaccines would not harm people, there wouldn't be this emergency use clause that makes it impossible to sue pharma companies if their vaccine maims you.

As an aside I personally find it bizarre that there was a super hard push in popular culture against "antivaxx" for the 1-2yrs before COVID appeared. All throughout 2018 I recall a lot of "anti-antivaxx" stuff in mainstream culture.

 

[Fucky Chucky]

In the U.S., employers can already fire you for any reason or no reason (with the obvious exceptions), including for a vaccination requirement. They might need to accommodate you if you have some actual medical condition covered under the Americans With Disabilities Act, but probably not even that if they have a real reason for the requirement, like you're working in healthcare.

The government itself isn't likely to directly force people to get it here, at least if you're not actually working for the government.

They do force you to get it if your a military man.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Post 2nd Pfizer Shot

Friday: Worked till 3pm had drinks from 6pm till 5am Saturday
Saturday: Hungover ate and slept most of the day
Sunday: 10:30am got the vaccine, came home made grilled cheese for breakfast had 5 beers and went to bed (arm was quite sore)
Monday: arm felt a bit sore went to sisters for beers and am now drinking into Tuesday morning arm feels fine like it doesn't hurt to put a t-shirt on.

Honestly my first shot was worse with the arm pain but then again on my first dose I was not drinking at all because I was worried about side effects which never happened outside of a sore arm. All in all there was no major issues from the shot. My tetanus shot was worse.

 

[AnOminous]

They do force you to get it if your a military man.

In which case you just need to suck it up or quit being a gigantic faggot.

 

[Fucky Chucky]

In which case you just need to suck it up or quit being a gigantic faggot.

A muscular, financially sound faggot yes.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

there wouldn't be this emergency use clause that makes it impossible to sue pharma companies if their vaccine maims you.

That's the case with every vaccine. Vaccines help public health, so they want to make it so vaccine manufacturers can't be sued since it's in the public's best interest for everyone to get vaccinated.

Again, vaccines are for public health and affects everyone. A woman getting an abortion affects no one but her and maybe the baby's father. Since you're doing the retarded "eat the bugs" thing, though, we can safely assume you're a spaztic retard

 

[Lathe]

If you don’t want to get it and not get fired in the US, claim religious reasons. I doubt many companies want to wade into the quagmire of fighting something like that. If the orthodox Jews can avoid it, you can too.

 

[whore loving dragon]

That's the case with every vaccine.

No it's not. The immunity applies explicitly to COVID vaccines administered until 2024. That's the reason why the law was passed - there was no preexisting clause that prevented COVID vaccine manufacturers from being sued.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10443

And by the way, if what you were saying was true (it's not) it would just mean that I would refuse to take all vaccines, rather than just the COVID vaccine.
If the company making a vaccine or the government officiating its distribution refuses to legally endorse that it won't maim you, you should under no circumstances put it into your body.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

No it's not. The immunity applies explicitly to COVID vaccines administered until 2024. That's the reason why the law was passed - there was no preexisting clause that prevented COVID vaccine manufacturers from being sued.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10443

And by the way, if what you were saying was true (it's not) it would just mean that I would refuse to take all vaccines, rather than just the COVID vaccine.
If the company making a vaccine or the government officiating its distribution refuses to legally endorse that it won't maim you, you should under no circumstances put it into your body.

No, vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued in most cases

H.R.5546 - 99th Congress (1985-1986): National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986

Summary of H.R.5546 - 99th Congress (1985-1986): National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986

www.congress.gov

Can I Sue Vaccine Manufacturers?

This FindLaw.com article explains why drug manufacturers generally cannot be sued for vaccine injuries and outlines the claims process for the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

www.findlaw.com

 

[whore loving dragon]

No, vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued in most cases

H.R.5546 - 99th Congress (1985-1986): National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986

Summary of H.R.5546 - 99th Congress (1985-1986): National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986

www.congress.gov

Can I Sue Vaccine Manufacturers?

This FindLaw.com article explains why drug manufacturers generally cannot be sued for vaccine injuries and outlines the claims process for the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

www.findlaw.com

1) Can you explain why these pharmaceutical megacorporations felt the need to have a law passed protecting them specifically from lawsuits arising from COVID vaccine injuries, if you're claiming these protections already existed for all vaccines? Apparently the top legal experts of this massive industry disagree with you, otherwise they would not have taken this measure.

2) Why do you perceive COVID vaccination to be "in the interest of the common good" when everyone involved with the production, advertisement, and distribution of COVID vaccines refuses to care for you or your family in the hypothetical event that the vaccine maims or kills you? How can it be that the "common good" does not include the very people who choose to invest themselves most materially into it? Have you considered that COVID vaccination is not "in the interest of the common good" but is instead in the interest of corporations and elites that want to make pre-pandemic levels of money, consequences be damned?

3) How can you give your vote of confidence to a vaccine that the manufacturers themselves have openly admitted through legal practices that they are not confident won't harm or kill you in the future?

And let's be extra honest about individual motivations for taking the vaccine: it's not "for the common good". It's for (perceived) individual protection against the virus, and it's a virtue signal, hence why those who receive it love to widely advertise their having done so

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

1) Can you explain why these pharmaceutical megacorporations felt the need to have a law passed protecting them specifically from lawsuits arising from COVID vaccine injuries if you're claiming these protections already existed for all vaccines? Apparently the top legal experts of this massive industry disagree with you, otherwise they would not have taken this measure.

The existing ones only applied to already existing vaccines ("routine" vaccinations). It's a stupid part of the law, but what ya gonna do.

2) Why do you perceive COVID vaccination to be "in the interest of the common good" when everyone involved with the production, advertisement, and distribution of COVID vaccines refuses to care for you or your family in the hypothetical event that the vaccine maims or kills you? How can it be that the "common good" does not include the very people who choose to invest themselves into it? Have you considered that COVID vaccination is not "in the interest of the common good" but is instead in the interest of corporations and elites that want to make pre-pandemic levels of money, consequences be damned?

Look up herd immunity. Not only that, but the more people who are vaccinated the less it can mutate and thus evolve. If you get injured or maimed from covid, which is far more likely than from the vaccine, you won't get cared for either.

3) How can you give your vote of confidence to a vaccine that the manufacturers themselves have openly admitted through legal practices that they are not confident won't harm or kill you in the future?

When did they do that? Or is this some crippling autistic interpretation of something?

 

[whore loving dragon]

Look up herd immunity. Not only that, but the more people who are vaccinated the less it can mutate and thus evolve.

I don't understand how this relates to my post? You're just regurgitating some preprogrammed talking point, it's like you didn't even read what I said.

If you get injured or maimed from covid, which is far more likely than from the vaccine, you won't get cared for either.

Sure, but COVID is not (well - as far as we know!) manufactured by a pharmaceutical company and then deliberately administered to you by the government. By the way, under a certain age the vaccines have a higher likelihood of killing you than contracted COVID - without even factoring in the uncertainty of contracting COVID and the within-scenario certainty that you will consensually receive the vaccine.
And that's with the currently known situation. The long term effects of the vaccines are completely unknown.

When did they do that? Or is this some crippling autistic interpretation of something?

So would you say that a pharmaceutical company refusing any legal liability for injuries and deaths related to its vaccine isn't expressing uncertainty in the safety of the vaccine?

In general it seems that this discussion boils down to one delineating factor: do you have unflinching, irrational trust in the government and pharmaceutical companies? Even when they themselves admit uncertainty in the safety of the vaccine by their refusal to cover injuries or deaths? I don't. In fact, I don't trust these institutions even a little bit. Maybe I'm too familiar with history.