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The idea that someone else can ruin your hobby makes little sense to me. Sure, I can understand a hobby that involves interacting with other people being ruined, like Tabletop Games, multiplayer vidya, baseball, etc. But if your passion for whittling was ruined by someone else being a queer while whittling then you clearly didn't like whittling all that much to begin with.
Honestly agree, when I say something “ruined my hobby” I more so mean it’s ruined communication between fans of it.

Everything’s become polarized and politicized so now even simply having FUN is a political problem and is somehow indicative of who you are as a person. You have people unironically complaining that someone of the opposite moral compass DARED to like something they like, and then will bring up some bs excuse on how said hobby is “inherently (insert belief here)”. When that shitty right wing Vocaloid song came out, you had a bunch of Vocaloid fans saying that the mere act of making a song with a voice bank is “inherently queer”. There was this one thread on people who prefer more childish hobbies and everyone kinda just assumed they were all leftists.

Everyone’s also just more on edge too. There was some Sonic artist that recently got flack for drawing porn of Tails… as an adult. And I don’t mean “Sure he’s still 4 foot flat but he’s actually a thousand years old”, no, redesigned and remade to be an adult and everything, and he got called a pedo for that. We go over to the Splatoon fandom and you have someone getting cancelled for drawing Marina slightly light skinned by a decimal, and a legitimate discussion happened as if that wasn’t the most retarded thing to get pissed at. In the Deltarune fandom you have the discussion of whether you’re allowed to call the fictional fake fake non existent fictional child “he/him” when the game calls him “they/them”. Did I mention he dosent exist?

When everyone’s become a lobotomized political psychopath, it’s kinda hard to find friends who like the same stuff you do cause everyone is so focused on forcing the exact things you go to hobbies to escape from into hobbies.
 
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There was some Sonic artist that recently got flack for drawing porn of Tails… as an adult. And I don’t mean “Sure he’s still 4 foot flat but he’s actually a thousand years old”, no, redesigned and remade to be an adult and everything, and he got called a pedo for that.
Lol. Sorry, using children’s animation characters for porn is definitely pedo coded. Sexualizing animal game/cartoon characters created for children is weird and definitely attracts mostly pedos. It’s also used as bait to lure kids into porn content. He should be called a gross pervert and pedo for making Tails porn.

If you are a grown adult that likes porn with cartoon animal characters the wiring in your brain is inherently fucked up and you need to ban all forms of animation from your life until you are sexually aroused by human beings.
 
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What is language anymore, this is literally exactly what I’m talking about (:_(

ETA: This is also ignoring the fact that nowadays Sonic is barely even kids media if at all. Every kid nowadays considers it old and out of fashion which just leaves the autistic adults who grew up with it and never grew out, which Sega caters to by including swearing, murder, and big titty bats in their games.
 
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Lol. Sorry, using children’s animation characters for porn is definitely pedo coded. Sexualizing animal game/cartoon characters created for children is weird and definitely attracts mostly pedos. It’s also used as bait to lure kids into porn content. He should be called a gross pervert and pedo for making Tails porn.

If you are a grown adult that likes porn with cartoon animal characters the wiring in your brain is inherently fucked up and you need to ban all forms of animation from your life until you are sexually aroused by human beings.
I know this is everyone's hot button moral issue that they have to clutch their pearls about, especially on this site. But both the FBI and The National Center For Missing And Exploited Children have both put out official statements essentially saying.

"Please stop reporting lolicon to our tip lines, we're trying to do serious work here."

Yes Tails piss porn is gross and I don't like seeing it on Twitter, no it is not even remotely the same thing as durka durkas and jeets raping real children.
 
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"Please stop reporting lolicon to our tip lines, we're trying to so serious work here."
This retard isn’t even talking about lolicon, he’s saying that drawing porn of any character from media meant for children makes you a pedo. Mrs. Incredible porn, Princess Peach porn, Rouge The Bat porn; all pedophilic apparently.
 
This retard isn’t even talking about lolicon, he’s saying that drawing porn of any character from media meant for children makes you a pedo. Mrs. Incredible porn, Princess Peach porn, Rouge The Bat porn; all pedophilic apparently.
Which is retarded, it's just the old boomer "violent videogames cause mass shootings" rhetoric but repackaged for zoomers who watch "ick" compilations on Instagram.
 
zoomers who watch "ick" compilations on Instagram.
Yknow I never got why there’ll be some kids who will consume mass quantities of porn for absolutely no reason other than to gross themselves out. A few years ago, YouTube would have cringe comps with uncensored porn, all for kids to look at and go “Ewww!”.

It’s horrifying honestly.
 
Yknow I never got why there’ll be some kids who will consume mass quantities of porn for absolutely no reason other than to gross themselves out. A few years ago, YouTube would have cringe comps with uncensored porn, all for kids to look at and go “Ewww!”.

It’s horrifying honestly.
I genuinely despise being put in the position where I'm forced to defend coomers but we seriously need a middle ground between Puritanism so severe it would make the Victoria's blush and absolutely horrifying degeneracy right out of Brave New World.

I don't think portrayals of sexuality or nudity are inherently evil or rape or whatever but nor do I think we need triple penetration BBC vomit porn everywhere.

Why can't people just be normal?
 
I know this is everyone's hot button moral issue that they have to clutch their pearls about, especially on this site. But both the FBI and The National Center For Missing And Exploited Children have both put out official statements essentially saying.

"Please stop reporting lolicon to our tip lines, we're trying to so serious work here."

Yes Tails piss porn is gross and I don't like seeing it on Twitter, no it is not even remotely the same thing as durka durkas and jeets raping real children.
I didn’t say it was loli and I don’t report it to the FBI, but if you are an adult making pornography out of children’s cartoons characters you should be shamed into keeping it to yourself and keep your sick fetish private at home. Instead they try to find and encourage others to masturbate or eroticize children’s animal cartoons. They try to post this gross shit anywhere they can online.

Just because some creepy, lonely ppl’s sexual attraction and drive got focused on children’s cartoon characters, doesn’t mean they should be unashamedly spreading their sickness online.
 
I genuinely despise being put in the position where I'm forced to defend coomers but we seriously need a middle ground between Puritanism so severe it would make the Victoria's blush and absolutely horrifying degeneracy right out of Brave New World.

I don't think portrayals of sexuality or nudity are inherently evil or rape or whatever but nor do I think we need triple penetration BBC vomit porn everywhere.

Why can't people just be normal?
I’ve already reconciled a middle ground in my head, but it requires a complete deconstruction of the current internet culture we have set up. Everything I list that needs to be deconstructed is because I believe it has never served any benefit/has served very little benefit. I am not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

First off, we need to get rid of the concept of clout/monetization. A lot of porn artists are irresponsible with their porn less so out of a desire to corrupt everything in their path and more so because they really really want clout/to get paid. We need to get back to when the most “celebrity” status you could get from the internet before you’d just be forgotten about by everyone was merch. Nowadays merch is a given rather than an achievement.

Getting rid of clout/monetization will by default also get rid of the professionalization of content. Think YouTube, nowadays if you want anyone to watch your video, it has to have a fully edited thumbnail with “engagement editing” and the same copied monotone Critikal voice. This is because of professionalization of content, we need to get back to when you could just upload a video with you as the thumbnail or when you could just post a shitty doodle to Tumblr and you’d have people go “Cool!”

Make the internet 18+, there is literally no good reason for a single minor to be using the internet like ever. I appreciate efforts to keep children safe, but sometimes I fear we develop an an attitude where we’re policing ourselves under the idea that minors using the internet is something that “happens” rather than something that “unfortunately happens”. Getting children off the internet will be a massive benefit that will take away a lot of the puritanicalness we’ve found ourselves in and will just be better and safer for them overall. Even in a world without porn, the internet is still very unhealthy for a child (peer pressure, body image issues, unlearning patience, lack of Vitamin D).

SEVERELY un-politicize the current internet. Another reason I’ve seen some coomers shove their art where it dosent belong is because they genuinely believe it’s some sort of political statement, that’s our faults. We’ve propped up politics as some sort of religion, we need to knock the concept down about 50 pegs.

Normalize ignoring content you dislike rather than leaving hate/harassing/etc. I know this sounds disappointing to a lot of people here, but what I’m getting at is a lot of coomers are autistic. Some severely. And autists suffer from something called PDA, pathological demand avoidance. In a nutshell, they have an ingrained need to avoid anything they perceive as a demand, and bullying someone for being into furry Sonic vore very much can be seen as a demand, leading to them making more of it and making it even more obtrusive just to spite you. Why do you think so many lolcows react to criticism via doubling down? It’s fun, I get it, but if you truly want them to stop then starving them of attention until they get bored of it is the way to go.

With all of these combined, then eventually porn will go back to being reserved for niche homemade websites rather than “porn celebrities” posting it uncensored on Twitter for thousands of fans to pay them. Because coomers will have literally no reason to shove it in other’s face. They won’t get clout, they won’t get especially praised more than some random DeviantArt base user, they won’t get applauded for making a strong sex positive queer statement, and they won’t even get fuel for their conflict addiction. There’d be literally no reason to shove it in normie’s faces, to the point where coomers who do might become ostracized and considered weird by other coomers.


I didn’t say it was loli and I don’t report it to the FBI, but if you are an adult making pornography out of children’s cartoons characters you should be shamed into keeping it to yourself and keep your sick fetish private at home. Instead they try to find and encourage others to masturbate or eroticize children’s animal cartoons. They try to post this gross shit anywhere they can online.

Just because some creepy, lonely ppl’s sexual attraction and drive got focused on children’s cartoon characters, doesn’t mean they should be unashamedly spreading their sickness online.
This is hilarious. This nigga wants us to get out the pitchforks cause someone jerks it to Shego.

ETA: Also, are we not currently in a conversation on how we want porn to be less in public mainstream places? We’re clowning on you calling these people pedophiles and acting like they’re some genuine threat, not advocating for broadcasting Amy Rouge lesbian sex at time square.
 
I didn’t say it was loli and I don’t report it to the FBI, but if you are an adult making pornography out of children’s cartoons characters you should be shamed into keeping it to yourself and keep your sick fetish private at home. Instead they try to find and encourage others to masturbate or eroticize children’s animal cartoons. They try to post this gross shit anywhere they can online.

Just because some creepy, lonely ppl’s sexual attraction and drive got focused on children’s cartoon characters, doesn’t mean they should be unashamedly spreading their sickness online.
I'm not going to spend my limited free time outside of work, hobbies, and hanging out with friends obsessing over and hunting down people who draw porn of Stephen Universe, you can though.

That is so insanely over the top and I would argue veering into genuine mental illness territory.
 
ETA: This is also ignoring the fact that nowadays Sonic is barely even kids media if at all. Every kid nowadays considers it old and out of fashion which just leaves the autistic adults who grew up with it and never grew out, which Sega caters to by including swearing, murder, and big titty bats in their games.
Rated disagree at first because I didn't notice the upper half of the post was about some other shit but as an adult who grew up with sonic and mario games readily available The "big tittied bat"'s been in there since most of these people were kids. 2001 was over 20 years ago now. and nearly everything terrible with that character is solely on coomers online because she's just a fed glownigger agent in the games.

The game that infamously had swearing and murder in it, shadow the hedgehog, is now also over 20 years old because it was 2005. It does not feel like that long jesus christ.

When I'm in public I still run into kids that like sonic and mario stuff but they're absolutely a little bit thinner in number now. I think this is in part due to how the handling of game releases and ports (ip squatting save for occasional reference and sparce rereleases) has been the last 10 years on top of other horrid factors tied to how society's been doing things since 2016 on loop. This isn't even touching on how both Sega and Nintendo have had instances of censoring or fucking with the remaster ports of their games recently to simultaneously appease reddit/twitter types and likely also simultaneously be percieved as more "child friendly" so you get shit like the flirting goombas removed and tranny dialogue jammed into the english version of thousand year door, and Sonic generations removing amy's goofy flirting and the joke with knuckles calling sonic fat while ALSO making everything a fucking reference that makes the world seem smaller in a really bad way ("this chemical plant looks familiar" gets turned to "yep, this is the chemical plant").

My genuine complaints about all these litle cuts to the source material that end up to a shittier overall script got hit with the usual reddit script, bizarrely even from people I've known for years that it seemed out of character for. People have been conditioned to always spin any change like this to media that's meant to be all ages appropriate/marketed to kids as a good thing and once you give enough solid reasons why it isn't a good thing the programming defaults back to "why do you care?" Nigger I SAID WHY I CARE! "oh but it's made for kids!" OK THEN WHY DID YOU CARE ENOUGH AT ME HAVING A SLIGHT DISSAPOINTMENT OVER THEM REMOVING A JOKE SCENE AND ADDING IN SOME PRONOUNS LECTURE?! Oh but there's never gonna BE an answer to that that's not part of the preset dialogue tree loop because people have actively removed all individual thought from their minds for empty vapid clout with people they don't know and will never talk to.


Yes this turned into a rambling but the combo of realizing a lot of games are older than they feel possibly due to the exact stagnant culture war rot loop that's ending up with more and more old media being censored or altered in absurd ways that somehow ALSO includes sonic and the bing bing wahoo man really got my morning thoughts flowing.
 
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2001 was over 20 years ago now. and nearly everything terrible with that character is solely on coomers online because she's just a fed glownigger agent in the games.

The game that infamously had swearing and murder in it, shadow the hedgehog, is now also over 10 years old because it was 2005. It does not feel like that long jesus christ.
Maybe I’m misremembering, but what I more so meant was that by the time this stuff was included, Sonic was dying out with kids and was getting considered “dorky” whilst adults were still very into it, and now Sega is doubling down further with the IDW comics which seem exclusively for adults, insofar as the lore is a lot more mature. But again, I may be wrong.

Rated disagree at first because I didn't notice the upper half of the post was about some other shit
HAHAHA ya idk what the fuck happened for this thread to come to this.
 
Maybe I’m misremembering, but what I more so meant was that by the time this stuff was included, Sonic was dying out with kids and was getting considered “dorky” whilst adults were still very into it
Nah the adventure games and heroes were generally well liked by people. You're more thinking of that weird timespan right before colors came out that kind of carried afterwards in certain circles. By then you had the trifecta of shadow the hedgehog with the guns, 06 with everything that had, and unleashed with it's weird gimmick. HOWEVER After the dreamcast "failed" though there was a media thing of framing sonic like he was old and outdated 90s guy despite him basically just being sega's mario that later kinda had overlap with the other Internet shit that then had the influencer culture media people going "sonic was never good".

Also this is now just reminding me of how mario also used to have an attitude (and still sometimes does but tends to be framed as bing wahoo yippee as that is the aesthetic of his games)


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HAHAHA ya idk what the fuck happened for this thread to come to this.
I just feel like I gotta explain myself in case changes of the goofy stickers get nooticed in advance
 
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