Arguments against racism rely on the existence of souls

[Hateocracy]

We have been able to exploit this for thousands of years through agriculture and animal husbandry.

There's one race of people who haven't been able to systemically accomplish this, even in modern day. You know who they are.

Is the culture war really so powerful that people are unable to recognize where their beliefs stem from?

This is not a new phenomenon. Zealots, crusaders and radicals have existed since groups of proto-humans banded together and said "OUR beliefs are much better than THEIR beliefs".

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

There's one race of people who haven't been able to systemically accomplish this, even in modern day. You know who they are.

Inuit people? Mongolians?

 

[Whatevermancer]

Whites > everyone else.
"B-but thats heckin damaging to the niggerinos and chinks"
Good, whatever advantages my people is moral, whatever disadvantages them is not.

East Asians>everyone else
They have the highest IQ scores on average. Does it mean you should accept that you're a member of an inferior race, gweilo?

 

[Coberald]

East Asians>everyone else
They have the highest IQ scores on average. Does it mean you should accept that you're a member of an inferior race, gweilo?

Erm, no chang, we ytbois are still the best because... we just are OK.

 

[Turquoise]

The semitic religion and race realism are quite compatible. HP Lovecraft wrote a poem about it.

 

[David Brown]

Mules are infertile and can't reproduce. Admixed humans can. Try again.

Moving the goalpost here as usual. Just because race mixing produces off spring doesn't mean the human populations aren't genetically distinct and indentifiable as such. Mixed race babies can't received donated blood or organs even from their parents.

You are arguing for a world in which black West african parents can bear yellow east Asian children. It's just ridiculous and no serious people actually follow retarded race denying ideas to their logical conclusion.

Is Laurence Fishburn a white man? According to your logic, it's impossible to know because there is no genetic difference between whites, blacks, yellow asians, American Indians, etc.

 

[Bucephalus]

I'm curious about busted myth 3, which race group has the highest cognitive ability?

On average, Koreans. All the dumb ones died in the Finno-Korean hyperwar.

 

[Kovachs]

Mules are infertile and can't reproduce. Admixed humans can. Try again.

A boxer spaniel and a yorkie can reproduce, but that doesn't mean there is no clear genetic difference.

The extent to which you regard genetic differences as negligible is purely ideological. Why does is it have to rise to the level of speciation?

Also, assuming there is no genetic reality for race, that does not really establish why people shouldn't be racist.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Moving the goalpost here as usual.

If the offspring of two paired species can't reproduce then it's a genetic dead end, which is not a feature experienced by human races which admix. That's not a goalpost move, that's a genuine rebuttal.

Mixed race babies can't received donated blood or organs even from their parents.

Blood types are more nuanced than race.

You are arguing for a world in which black West african parents can bear yellow east Asian children. It's just ridiculous and no serious people actually follow retarded race denying ideas to their logical conclusion.

You were just whining about a logical fallacy that didn't happen and pulled a straw man argument. Was the goalpost claim in service of giving yourself a license to lie?

Is Laurence Fishburn a white man? According to your logic, it's impossible to know because there is no genetic difference between whites, blacks, yellow asians, American Indians, etc.

Another straw man argument, because I never said there were no differences, I said the differences that existed were negligible.

The extent to which you regard genetic differences as negligible is purely ideological. Why does is it have to rise to the level of speciation?

I never brought speciation into the argument, I'm not the one who brought up mules as a refutation to my own point.

A boxer spaniel and a yorkie can reproduce, but that doesn't mean there is no clear genetic difference.

Since when were humans the subject of artificial selection?

Different breeds of dogs can vary on genetic differences up to 25%, whereas Neanderthals only had a 0.3% difference from humans.

 

[R00T]

Horses and donkeys are indistinguishable; the amount of time the different ethnicities of quadrupeds have been separated for isn't enough to create a genuinely profound difference.

It is very possible to tell horses and donkeys apart. Your retarded comparison here fails because while they can reproduce, their offspring: mule when it’s a male donkey/female horse and hinny when it’s a male horse/female donkey are sterile and unable to procreate. J’quarius has a baby with Stacey and their child is able to have children as well.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

From what I recall, all race refers to is the difference in allele frequency between populations. There is no universal gene carried by each race that we can point to as a signifier of that race. Instead, a pattern emerges when you consider these populations in aggregate, in which some alleles are found in up to 90% of the population but others are a bit less so. Typically, the genetic difference between the two most genetically distinct individuals in the population is going to be greater than the average genetic difference between the two populations, otherwise known as "races". The only alleles that are unique to said populations (discounting them being spread by relatively recent interracial pairings) are only found in a minority of the population, the classic example being that allele that controls for sickle cell anemia and supposedly bestows some sort of resistance to malaria.

The races could represent a step in the creation of new species, but as those of us that have studied Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium can attest, gene flow between populations is a sign that no evolution is occurring, especially given the small amount of time that has passed since our species has left Africa. We've even found that apparently there was more gene flow back into Africa than previously thought and, accordingly, more sub-Saharan Africans carrying alleles of Neanderthal origin.

 

[Kovachs]

I never brought speciation into the argument, I'm not the one who brought up mules as a refutation to my own point.

Pray tell, if blacks, Asians and white people are so profoundly different, how can they admix?

But you explicitly said that humans being able to mix proves that there is a negligible difference...? You must be mistaken. I'd like you to remember what you've said yourself.

Since when were humans the subject of artificial selection?

Different breeds of dogs can vary on genetic differences up to 25%, whereas Neanderthals only had a 0.3% difference from humans.

Again, you're not establishing what is the standard for being negligible or not. That doesn't mean there weren't profound differences between humans and neanderthals.

I think that denying race itself is absurd. What people really mean to challenge is race as a proxy for the heritability of IQ and behavior.

Either way, you still haven't argued why racism is bad.

 

[Last True Aryan]

Stop smoking weed

 

[Last True Aryan]

The reason why is because the genetic differences are negligible and the amount of time the different ethnicities of humans have been separated for isn't enough to create a genuinely profound difference.

Isn't the orthodox narrative that Out-of-Africa happened 40,000 years ago?
Would you argue this for the Khoisan for instance, who would've diverged from our ancestors like 300,000 years ago, and speak to each other in clicking noises? Genuinely curious.

 

[parsnip]

No, they're based on empathy. You would want others to be racist against you, that's why racism is bad.

Exactly. You don't need belief in souls to extend basic empathy to other living things. I wouldn't like being kicked, so I don't kick other people, or dogs, or squirrels etc

 

[Dysnomia]

The reason why is because the genetic differences are negligible and the amount of time the different ethnicities of humans have been separated for isn't enough to create a genuinely profound difference.

They give you trashcans but you are 100% right. OP is either fishing for reactions or thinks they are so much smarter than everyone else for coming up with this genius notion.

 

[The Internet Dick]

All humans are humans regardless of race, and all humans (in my faith) have souls.

Humans are differentiated by race, which is a congregate of various attributes largely shaped by environmental factors. Natural selection over time determines the most advantageous physical and psychological qualities necessary to survive and even thrive in a given environment. Those who don't, won't. Race is real. Fun fact: Four white missionary doctors accompanied the first freed American negro slaves intent upon colonizing what would be Liberia. All four of the whites died of various tropical diseases--including malaria--within weeks of their arrival. In fact, the transatlantic slave trade could only be facilitated by Arabs or coastal African tribes because white people (generally speaking) rarely survived expeditions into the African interior for just this reason. I could go on, but you get the picture.

Race is real and so are souls. The two are not mutually exclusive. Is it wrong to be racist? Yes and no. It isn't wrong to notice differences and make informed inferences based on those differences. It is wrong to assert racial superiority because it begs the question: superior at what? Tyrone from the hood over there has just impregnated three women in the last year alone and you're probably paying for his children's upbringing, all of it.

If it all comes down to breeding strategy, point to Tyrone.

 

[Broadside]

The reason why is because the genetic differences are negligible and the amount of time the different ethnicities of humans have been separated for isn't enough to create a genuinely profound difference.

Then why the fuck do niggers act so wildly different to us?

 

[Randy Facalding]

The modern fundies (progressives) have replaced the souls/God thing with social constructivism/blank slate. Works well enough for them.

The problem with the "blank slate" theory is how far are you willing to take this? There used to be different subspecies of humanoids and they could very well develop again if globalism gets disrupted.

No, they're based on empathy. You would want others to be racist against you, that's why racism is bad.

But they're still treated differently. For example short bus kids are treated differently even when they're being treated respectfully.

They give you trashcans but you are 100% right. OP is either fishing for reactions or thinks they are so much smarter than everyone else for coming up with this genius notion.

I never said I was smarter than you. I explicitly said in OP that these ideas are common in theological discussions.

 

[David Brown]

Since when were humans the subject of artificial selection?

Slavery lol

In Marvin's retarded worldview, the sterile child of two white Germans is an entirely separate race from his parents, but an Australian aboriginal huffing gasoline and sleeping in the road is indistinguishable from a Celtic native British person. And he will never deny this.

Tyrone from the hood over there has just impregnated three women in the last year alone and you're probably paying for his children's upbringing, all of it.

Mutt's law fulfilled.