🌟 Internet Famous Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

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It wasn't the worst pitch as in the worst concept they ever had. Chris and Zach shit the bed while pitching the show to AS.
Oh okay. I was confused at first cuz like, REALLY? This is where Adult Swim goes "No we have standards!"???
Makes more sense.
 
So this was a bit of a weird turn of events.

The Grumps started a brand new playthrough of Super Mario Galaxy 2, and right off the bat, I want you guys to take a guess as to what's immediately different about this episode than all the others.
That's right: the thumbnails aren't eye-bleedingly awful anymore! They're back to the old thumbnail style, orange background and all. The episode's commentary actually flows incredibly well, the gameplay isn't completely godawful, it's just an all-around solid episode. And as people on this RantGrumps thread pointed out, their first episode viewcount for SMG2 is already doing better than their other first episodes of recent series such as DOOM II, Sonic 2, and Dead Rising 3 combined.
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And y'know what? They're absolutely right.
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It's not by much, in fairness, but a 200K view markup is pretty good considering most of their series are having trouble barely holding 150K-250K people these days. But most people assumed it was an early April Fools' Day joke and things would go back to normal the next day, and sure enough:
The thumbnails were back to diarrhea brown eye cancer, alongside Arin getting incredibly upset and faking rage over how he has to sit awkwardly to use a Yoshi because he can't be assed to fix their sensor bar. So what happened? Well for one: they actually had stuff to talk about talked about so as to not focus on the game as much (the Backstreet Boys Reunion). Problem was they only had that one thing to talk about due to CO-VID 19 and that was pretty much it.

But more interestingly, in SMG2 Part 1, Arin talks about how he's actually been thinking about going behind Ben's back after episodes have been released, and is planning on retroactively changing back a shitload of thumbnails himself because he actually hates the way Ben does them. Starting with this new series. Arin was the one who actually made it this time, not Ben, and this was his way of trying to get Ben to take the hint to not make them completely disgusting and off-putting before he just straight up takes over (he also said he still trusts him to edit because he thinks "editing is fucking boring", but he doesn't trust him with thumbnails anymore). And of course Ben didn't listen.

So if all of a sudden the channel starts getting new thumbnails on older video to wash away the shit Ben's doing, that's why. Although this begs the question as to why Arin doesn't just hire a new editor outright and fire Ben for incompetence and just makes the thumbnails himself again, but this is backwards Grump logic here, there is no consistency or transparency here. But now that fans got a taste of that consistency back, the Lovelies are getting even more adamant about how shitty the thumbnails are.

When you somehow fuck up so bad that Arin can one-up you by doing the absolute bare minimum, you've failed at doing your job.
 
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Although this begs the question as to why Arin doesn't just hire a new editor outright and fire Ben for incompetence

I remember seeing a theory that Arin likes to think himself as a "good guy" and the reason he never fires anyone is because it would go against his self image. I know in the past that Arin had a reputation for generosity but I wonder if that was because he genuinely cared about people or if it was just a way for him to feel good about himself. I know that's a pretty cynical take on it but when someone becomes as big of a buttmunch as Arin has become it becomes hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
I remember seeing a theory that Arin likes to think himself as a "good guy" and the reason he never fires anyone is because it would go against his self image. I know in the past that Arin had a reputation for generosity but I wonder if that was because he genuinely cared about people or if it was just a way for him to feel good about himself. I know that's a pretty cynical take on it but when someone becomes as big of a buttmunch as Arin has become it becomes hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.

"One should judge a man by his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real."
 
I remember seeing a theory that Arin likes to think himself as a "good guy" and the reason he never fires anyone is because it would go against his self image. I know in the past that Arin had a reputation for generosity but I wonder if that was because he genuinely cared about people or if it was just a way for him to feel good about himself. I know that's a pretty cynical take on it but when someone becomes as big of a buttmunch as Arin has become it becomes hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.
It's not really a theory anymore is it?

I mean look at that Pelo shit that happened a while back, the massive amount of employers, and that thing with the book Vernon made.

The only thing differentiating him from being a generic lolcow is, like you said, whether this is more about his ego or more about being avoidant about his problems. Which... I have no idea.

It really is pretty hard to differentiate between his actual sperging, it being a bit, or it being a bit but actually his sperging.
Either way, him thinking being a sperg is his only method of being profitable is hilarious enough on it's own.

Also off-topic, but I remember seeing a thread that detailed what kind of cows there are, can anyone tell me where it is?
 
Uh oh, Arin said in the latest SMG2 episode that he didn't enjoy the female empowerment angle added to the Aladdin remake. He's in for it now!
 
It really is pretty hard to differentiate between his actual sperging, it being a bit, or it being a bit but actually his sperging.

Going back to the subject of giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think more well of rantgrumps than some people here, but one criticism I will agree with is that people there are sometimes too quick to assume the worse of Arin. However, I think that's largely Arin's fault. Over the years there have been so many instances of him acting like a petty dick that it's no surprise that people take what he does in the worst possible way, compared to how people used to be more lenient with Dan even if they didn't like some things about him. Some of the stupid stuff he says probably is meant to be a joke, but because he and his fanbase have often fallen back on "It's just a bit, man!" I can't blame people for taking what he says at face value. It's like a variation of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Spout off enough bullshit and people will assume that everything you say is bullshit.

Uh oh, Arin said in the latest SMG2 episode that he didn't enjoy the female empowerment angle added to the Aladdin remake. He's in for it now!

That's kind of odd, isn't it? In the past few years Arin's gained a reputation for always trying to seem woke.
 
Would say goodbye sweet prince...but at this point does he deserve it?

I mean, Ross' "big" comeback to animation was a 3 minute short uploaded to Youtube, and now he became a run-of-the-mill streamer and still hasn't said a word about Gameoverse. Meanwhile Zach is over here getting the Wolfhard brothers and Mike Stoklasa on his pilot while giving his pals from NG a chance to shine. At this point it's clear Ross has to get its shit together and stop leeching off Arin and the storytime crew if he actually wants to succeed at animation.

Arin was the one who actually made it this time, not Ben, and this was his way of trying to get Ben to take the hint to not make them completely disgusting and off-putting before he just straight up takes over (he also said he still trusts him to edit because he thinks "editing is fucking boring", but he doesn't trust him with thumbnails anymore). And of course Ben didn't listen.

Iirc Matt and Ryan recommended that Ben would be a fitting replacement for them in the editing department. While they weren't the most competent (lots of black screens come to mind), with stuff like this I can't help to think they did that as some sort of cruel joke for Arin.
 
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I remember seeing a theory that Arin likes to think himself as a "good guy" and the reason he never fires anyone is because it would go against his self image. I know in the past that Arin had a reputation for generosity but I wonder if that was because he genuinely cared about people or if it was just a way for him to feel good about himself. I know that's a pretty cynical take on it but when someone becomes as big of a buttmunch as Arin has become it becomes hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Well then he's doing a shit job at running a business then (Arin still calls Game Grumps a "business", right?)!

If your employees aren't up to snuff you either kick their asses into shape (if they're willing to) or let them go. Yeah, firing people sucks, but a company is a team effort and if someone's half-assing it all the time then they're a drain on the company and everyone else who works there. I know "firing someone" has a negative image due to the (not unjustly earned mind you) stereotype of some big corporate assholes at the top booting hard working employees for stupid shit, but in some cases firing someone is the only option. Maybe they aren't a fit for the company or, hey, maybe they're just a lazy dick who need a hard slap in the face from reality.

It reminds of that episode of King of The Hill when Hank was describing the two types of bosses; The one that gets things done even if they have to be a hard-ass sometimes and the one that's everyone friend right until everything comes crashing down around them. I don't think it's a hard guess to see which one more accurately fits Arin...though he did drop Projared and Jontron like a ton of bricks at the first sign of trouble, that was pretty cold of him to do.
 
Iirc Matt and Ryan recommended that Ben would be a fitting replacement for them in the editing department. While they weren't the most competent (lots of black screens ome to mind), with stuff like this I can't help to think they did that as some sort of cruel joke for Arin.
Their best edits were fucking with thumbnails to make Danny seem slighlty "off" but not enough to be obvious to the point it being a clear joke edit.
 
So this was a bit of a weird turn of events.

The Grumps started a brand new playthrough of Super Mario Galaxy 2, and right off the bat, I want you guys to take a guess as to what's immediately different about this episode than all the others.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bWjtSu5WQ9MThat's right: the thumbnails aren't eye-bleedingly awful anymore! They're back to the old thumbnail style, orange background and all. The episode's commentary actually flows incredibly well, the gameplay isn't completely godawful, it's just an all-around solid episode. And as people on this RantGrumps thread pointed out, their first episode viewcount for SMG2 is already doing better than their other first episodes of recent series such as DOOM II, Sonic 2, and Dead Rising 3 combined.
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And y'know what? They're absolutely right.
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It's not by much, in fairness, but a 200K view markup is pretty good considering most of their series are having trouble barely holding 150K-250K people these days. But most people assumed it was an early April Fools' Day joke and things would go back to normal the next day, and sure enough:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1AWMHeR2-bUThe thumbnails were back to diarrhea brown eye cancer, alongside Arin getting incredibly upset and faking rage over how he has to sit awkwardly to use a Yoshi because he can't be assed to fix their sensor bar. So what happened? Well for one: they actually had stuff to talk about talked about so as to not focus on the game as much (the Backstreet Boys Reunion). Problem was they only had that one thing to talk about due to CO-VID 19 and that was pretty much it.

But more interestingly, in SMG2 Part 1, Arin talks about how he's actually been thinking about going behind Ben's back after episodes have been released, and is planning on retroactively changing back a shitload of thumbnails himself because he actually hates the way Ben does them. Starting with this new series. Arin was the one who actually made it this time, not Ben, and this was his way of trying to get Ben to take the hint to not make them completely disgusting and off-putting before he just straight up takes over (he also said he still trusts him to edit because he thinks "editing is fucking boring", but he doesn't trust him with thumbnails anymore). And of course Ben didn't listen.

So if all of a sudden the channel starts getting new thumbnails on older video to wash away the shit Ben's doing, that's why. Although this begs the question as to why Arin doesn't just hire a new editor outright and fire Ben for incompetence and just makes the thumbnails himself again, but this is backwards Grump logic here, there is no consistency or transparency here. But now that fans got a taste of that consistency back, the Lovelies are getting even more adamant about how shitty the thumbnails are.

When you somehow fuck up so bad that Arin can one-up you by doing the absolute bare minimum, you've failed at doing your job.

Apparently an April fools joke is that they could make good content if they wanted to but choose not to... also I just assume the thumbnails and Ben and Arin thing is part of the April fools joke as it antagonizes the community that doesn't lick their ass constantly.
 
But more interestingly, in SMG2 Part 1, Arin talks about how he's actually been thinking about going behind Ben's back after episodes have been released, and is planning on retroactively changing back a shitload of thumbnails himself because he actually hates the way Ben does them. Starting with this new series. Arin was the one who actually made it this time, not Ben, and this was his way of trying to get Ben to take the hint to not make them completely disgusting and off-putting before he just straight up takes over (he also said he still trusts him to edit because he thinks "editing is fucking boring", but he doesn't trust him with thumbnails anymore). And of course Ben didn't listen.

So if all of a sudden the channel starts getting new thumbnails on older video to wash away the shit Ben's doing, that's why. Although this begs the question as to why Arin doesn't just hire a new editor outright and fire Ben for incompetence and just makes the thumbnails himself again, but this is backwards Grump logic here, there is no consistency or transparency here. But now that fans got a taste of that consistency back, the Lovelies are getting even more adamant about how shitty the thumbnails are.
Wasn't Arin trying to go back on his stance towards click-bait thumbnails, saying "they're fine as long as they don't lie" or something?
Also, if Arin's doing Ben's work for him, and Ben still isn't getting that he needs to do a good job, then that's a sign he needs to be booted out of the office asap
 
Wasn't Arin trying to go back on his stance towards click-bait thumbnails, saying "they're fine as long as they don't lie" or something?
Also, if Arin's doing Ben's work for him, and Ben still isn't getting that he needs to do a good job, then that's a sign he needs to be booted out of the office asap
What’s that old saying?

“Your team’s only as strong as their weakest link” or something like that?

Well Ben’s done plenty to show that he’s the weakest link, and you can really tell things have gone downhill since he came on board. His weird obnoxious thumbnails and disruptive edits are really fucking them in the butt here, and you can clearly see a very sharp decline in views on their channels since he was given free reign to do what he wants. You’d think with how much Arin obsesses over the idea ofGG being a business he’d do the businessman thing and drop Ben’s ass and edit himself until he finds somebody competent.
 
What’s that old saying?

“Your team’s only as strong as their weakest link” or something like that?

Well Ben’s done plenty to show that he’s the weakest link, and you can really tell things have gone downhill since he came on board. His weird obnoxious thumbnails and disruptive edits are really fucking them in the butt here, and you can clearly see a very sharp decline in views on their channels since he was given free reign to do what he wants. You’d think with how much Arin obsesses over the idea ofGG being a business he’d do the businessman thing and drop Ben’s ass and edit himself until he finds somebody competent.

Arin just wants the prestige of being considered a business, he doesn't want to put the work in to make it run like an actual business.
 
I've been thinking about Matt and Ryan's editing and I remember people getting upset by the amount of editing mistakes, yet I don't remember there being many errors in their own work or the stuff they edited for Oney plays.

What do you think made it harder to work on GG stuff for them? Does Arin demand they use a certain editing tool or something?
 
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