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So Long TNT, There's a New Explosive in Town

Bis-oxadiazole could replace TNT and other explosives in military ordnance.

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By Jay Bennett
Jul 2, 2018
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The chemistry of explosives is a delicate matter. A little less carbon, a little more nitrogen, and the right amount of oxygen can transform a relatively inert substance into quite the showstopper.

For more than 100 years, TNT has been the premier mixture of chemicals for blowing things up, and it's even used as a metric to measure the yield of nuclear explosions and other monumental blasts. But new research out of Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Army Research Laboratory has discovered a new chemical, bis-oxadiazole (C6H4N6O8), that has many of the advantages of TNT, is thought to be less toxic to produce, and makes a bigger bang.

"It would be about 1.5 times the power of TNT," says David Chavez, an explosives chemist at Los Alamos who worked on the new molecule. "So fairly energetic, quite a nice improvement compared to TNT."

TNT, or trinitrotoluene, is a mixture of the seemingly innocent elements carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, and oxygen (C7H5N3O6). Chavez compares such explosive compounds to gasoline, saying that rather than drawing oxygen from the air to serve as an oxidizer for combustion, like an engine does, the molecule simply has everything it needs for the combustive reaction stored within. And because everything is much more densely packed together in a TNT molecule than in the gas-air mixture that powers a car, the resulting explosion is orders of magnitude more powerful.

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Oxadiazole has a calculated detonation pressure 50 percent higher than that of TNT.
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TNT also has a major advantage when it comes to manufacturing: it's melt-castable. In other words, the melting point of TNT is low enough, about 80 degrees Celsius, that you can safely melt the material down into a liquid without it spontaneously detonating, which happens at about 240 degrees C. This allows manufacturers to pour liquid TNT into molds and shells to produce bombs.

"The place where you see it used most is mortar shells and artillery shells," says Jesse Sabatini, a synthesis chemist with the Army Research Laboratory (ARL) at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland.

But TNT has some major drawbacks that have led to a "quest to develop new melt-castable explosives," says Sabatini, between the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense. TNT and other chemicals used in military explosives produce pollutants during manufacture, and they just aren't as explosive as they could be.

“There is actually quite a bit of waste that’s generated by making TNT," Chavez says. "There’s something that’s called red water, which is the kind of water that’s left over from the nitration of TNT. And then when the TNT itself is actually isolated, it’s washed with more water, and that water is a waste that’s called pink water, and it also has some environmental impacts."

These pollutants can get into soil and water supplies, and TNT, due to its high vapor pressure, has a tendency to produce air pollutants that can harm workers melting down the material with steam. It's also not that explosive, owing to the fact that TNT doesn't have enough oxidizer to burn all its carbon and hydrogen fuel, which is why you see a black cloud of mostly carbon after TNT is detonated. So TNT is generally mixed with other chemicals, such as RDX to form an explosive mixture called Composition B that is found in many bombs. But RDX also produces pollutants that can seep into groundwater, and they don't decompose easily.

“The Army always wants to have enhanced performance," Sabatini says. "They want more blast. They want more power. And TNT is okay... but we want to do better than that."

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Explosives chemist David Chavez pours an example of melt-castable explosive into a copper mold at Los Alamos National Laboratory’s Technical Area 9.
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Searching for a substitute has been an ongoing effort spanning decades, and in 2016, ARL synthesized a compound with some promising results. Bis-isoxazole, as the compound is known, proved to be cleaner than TNT and melt-castable, but not as powerful. Working with Los Alamos, the Army set out to tweak the recipe.

Bis-isoxazole consists of two five-atom rings with three carbon atoms, one nitrogen, and one oxygen. By swapping out a carbon atom for another nitrogen, the chemists knew they would produce a compound with a higher explosive yield, though they did not know if it would be melt-castable. "There is really no way to predict melting point," Sabatini says.

The result was the new molecule that could replace TNT, bis-oxadiazole. The additional nitrogen adds density to the molecule, and removing carbon helps balance out the oxidizer so all of the fuel can be used up to produce energy in the reaction. And once the researchers had synthesized it in the lab, they realized bis-oxadiazole has a melting point around that of TNT, making it melt-castable.

"There was a little bit of luck sprinkled in there I suppose, but there really was a lot of chemical intuition that was involved," Sabatini says.

There are two primary ways to measure the power of an explosion: detonation velocity and detonation pressure. According to chemical modeling, bis-oxadiazole should have a detonation velocity of around 8.18 km/s and detonation pressure of 29.4 gigapascal, compared to around 7.8 km/s and 26 gigapascal for Composition B. And from what the chemists know about the new material, any residue from manufacturing it should decompose much more easily in the environment.

However, these specific points still need to be tested. In a recent study, the chemists demonstrated the ability to produce the new explosive on a scale of about 25 grams. The next steps are to scale that production up to hundreds of grams or pounds, Sabatini says, so that full toxicity screenings can be done as well as explosive tests in the field.

To measure the detonation velocity and pressure directly, Chavez says, the chemists make cylinders of the material and arrange them on a small steel block. A trigger on top of the setup blows the material, and sensors placed in between the cylinders are used to measure velocity, while the pressure can be calculated from the dent left in the steel.

Once toxicity and detonation tests are conducted, if the results are promising, the material will go through a whole new set of tests to incorporate it into something resembling an artillery shell. Then chemical manufacturing plants could begin the process of producing the material in large quantities.

Chavez says the average time from chemical discovery to manufacture of explosive devices is roughly 5 to 10 years. But if the new explosive material is as promising as it seems, and if the Pentagon decides that it has a need for new weapons sooner rather than later, you could possibly see bis-oxadiazole hit the battlefield even earlier.

“It is a compound that certainly has us excited," Sabatini says.
 
Is that a common problem?
yes. C-4 is plenty stable thanks to "modern" chemistry to be hammered, cut apart, even set on fire. the last bit made taking tiny bits of the stuff, setting it alight in a can or something, and using it to cook food as you would any other flame source. the toxic nature of the plasticizing admixture (not wax anymore but some ethyl-methane or something, i forget exactly and would have to dig up my notes) as it burns gives off ammonia gas in minute quantities and this horrible burning plastic stuff that isn't odor-free, but is quite subtle. it gets in and on the food you're cooking and then into your body. it's also highly toxic to ingest as much as it is to breathe in.

if you're using C-4 or similar plastic explosive for cooking, you best have a fully sealed container, or better yet, just use the chemical heater that comes with the food and steam it.
 
@thx1138

The how-it-works part of nuclear bombs is terrifying and fascinating, all at once.

Like how the discovery of the H-bomb suddenly turned up the power on all nuclear weapons to a frightening degree, with nothing more than a thin layer of material that only does anything in the few microseconds as the bomb is going off.....
 
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@thx1138

The how-it-works part of nuclear bombs is terrifying and fascinating, all at once.

Like how the discovery of the H-bomb suddenly turned up the power on all nuclear weapons to a frightening degree, with nothing more than a thin layer of material that only does anything in the few microseconds as the bomb is going off.....

It is rather amazing to think that there's this measurable span of time after the pit goes supercritical but before it vaporizes itself and everything around it that the polystyrene-to-plasma process can happen.
 
I can't wait for this to be public domain.
 
Needs a catchy name, like BOX (bee oh ecks).
 
RDX actually stands for something "Research Department eXplosive" since the Brits came up with it, they gave it a suitably British name.

While TNT is just it's shortened chemical formula "Tri Nitro Toluene"

During WW2, you may have also heard the term "TORPEX" that's "Torpedo Explosive", I believe.
 
Speaking of TNT, and in regards to my earlier link to Dr. Derek Lowe, I present:

Hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane

Because I gotta say, nothing fills me with confidence quite like a compound that scientists attempt to stabilize by mixing it with TNT.

And of course, Dr. Lowe's comment is just the icing on this explosive cake:

Derek Lowe said:
Synthesizing polynitro compounds is no chocolate fondue party, either: if you picture a bunch of guys wheeling around drums of fuming nitric acid while singing the Anvil Chorus from Il Trovatore, you’re not that far off the mark. You really have to beat the crap out of a molecule to get that many nitro groups on it, which means prolonged heating of things that you’d really rather not heat up at all.
 
http://www.shakespeareanmonkey.co.uk/science/5-of-the-most-dangerous-chemicals

Thioacetone
Thioacetone won't give you cancer, start fires, or even explode. What it does do is smell bad. Really, really bad. It's chemical composition is similar to that of chemicals used in a skunk's spray. The other part of it's chemical make up is like that of the smells that come out of rotting meat, so not a great combination. One drop can be smelt nearly instantaneously from 500m away. In 1889, scientists were working on a larger chemical, but accidentally caused Thioacetone to be formed in a soap factory. Workers fell sick and people in the surrounding neighborhoods began to vomit and soon the entire German city of Freiburg, the site of the spill, had to be evacuated.

Off topic, but I think I have found out the national chemical of India.
 
My favorite HX is azidoazide-azide, a purified crystal of lead-azidoazide.

Azidoazide-azide will explode if:

You put it in strong sunlight
You drop it
You handle it carefully
You store it in darkness
You keep it refrigerated
You keep it room temperature
You touch it
You do not touch it
It is kept dry
It is kept moist
You store it in glass
You store it in metal
Loud noises are nearby
It is totally quiet nearby

Azidoazide-azide is some bad fuckin' news. It is the Florida Man of explosive compounds. Extremely dangerous, impossible to contain, no practical application.

Good stuff!

Pentaborane always sounded fun, it isn't an explosive, I mean it explodes but it was considered as a possible rocket fuel, but it explodes so they decided to go for something else.

From wiki:
Above 30 °C it can form explosive concentration of vapors with air. Its vapors are heavier than air. It is pyrophoric—can ignite spontaneously in contact with air, when even slightly impure. It can also readily form shock sensitive explosive compounds, and reacts violently with some fire suppressants, notably with halocarbons and water. It is highly toxic and symptoms of lower-level exposure may occur with up to 48 hours delay. Its acute toxicity is comparable to some nerve agents.

The acute toxicity of pentaborane has caused it to be considered immediately dangerous to life and health, with a limit set at 1 ppm.

So air makes it catch fire, trying to put out the fire makes it explode, it explodes just in general and it's poison to organic life. Nice!



RIP Radioactive Boy Scout, he's smoking meth and disassembling smoke detectors with god now.
 
Yeah TNT is toxic as hell. Historically in places where it gets produced the waste just gets dumped into the nearest body of water.
 
http://www.shakespeareanmonkey.co.uk/science/5-of-the-most-dangerous-chemicals

Thioacetone
Thioacetone won't give you cancer, start fires, or even explode. What it does do is smell bad. Really, really bad. It's chemical composition is similar to that of chemicals used in a skunk's spray. The other part of it's chemical make up is like that of the smells that come out of rotting meat, so not a great combination. One drop can be smelt nearly instantaneously from 500m away. In 1889, scientists were working on a larger chemical, but accidentally caused Thioacetone to be formed in a soap factory. Workers fell sick and people in the surrounding neighborhoods began to vomit and soon the entire German city of Freiburg, the site of the spill, had to be evacuated.

Off topic, but I think I have found out the national chemical of India.

A couple of drops of that, some adeonsine triphosphate, lay a phone headset on top of the petri dish and in 9 months you'll have a call center worker.
 
http://www.shakespeareanmonkey.co.uk/science/5-of-the-most-dangerous-chemicals

Thioacetone
Thioacetone won't give you cancer, start fires, or even explode. What it does do is smell bad. Really, really bad. It's chemical composition is similar to that of chemicals used in a skunk's spray. The other part of it's chemical make up is like that of the smells that come out of rotting meat, so not a great combination. One drop can be smelt nearly instantaneously from 500m away. In 1889, scientists were working on a larger chemical, but accidentally caused Thioacetone to be formed in a soap factory. Workers fell sick and people in the surrounding neighborhoods began to vomit and soon the entire German city of Freiburg, the site of the spill, had to be evacuated.

Off topic, but I think I have found out the national chemical of India.
Is that the one the Israelis use on the Palestinians? If it is they tested that for use in India. The cops they tested it on barely reacted.
 
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